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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 33797. (Read 26713779 times)

newbie
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Leetbot back in action, trying to forestall the drop below 117.
legendary
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This is what I was thinking aswell. I was actually thinking about doing a startup, a website where you can only buy Bitcoins. That's it, nothing else. Make it work INSTANTLY without any delays whatsoever, with common payment methods including Paypal (I think people can't put money in BTC's because Paypal is mostly unavailable, thats the problem I had when I first started) - Right now getting Bitcoins is a very long process that can take weeks if you take the Mt.Gox verification into account. On that website I could sell Bitcoins instantly, but maybe at a higher price than the current market situation [+5%] so I still make a profit.

I thought about maybe making a kickstarter for it or something similar but I don't know...

Likely you would have to charge much more than that as you will be flooded by chargeback scammers.

And then there are the idiots who will screw up their third-part bitcoin transaction, see they've no hope of doing anything through Bitcoin and so do a chargeback against you.
sr. member
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"to be or not to be, that is the bitcoin"

I would be surprised by too much action on this weekend.


wondering if we'll see a similar scenario to last weekends low volume climb
legendary
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1RichyTrEwPYjZSeAYxeiFBNnKC9UjC5k


This is what I was thinking aswell. I was actually thinking about doing a startup, a website where you can only buy Bitcoins. That's it, nothing else. Make it work INSTANTLY without any delays whatsoever, with common payment methods including Paypal (I think people can't put money in BTC's because Paypal is mostly unavailable, thats the problem I had when I first started) - Right now getting Bitcoins is a very long process that can take weeks if you take the Mt.Gox verification into account. On that website I could sell Bitcoins instantly, but maybe at a higher price than the current market situation [+5%] so I still make a profit.

I thought about maybe making a kickstarter for it or something similar but I don't know...

Likely you would have to charge much more than that as you will be flooded by chargeback scammers.
newbie
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haha. that wasn't a prediction (except that I said I favored green scenario). If we include your grey scenario (sideways for a while in white area in my pic), what I layed out pretty much covered all possibilities. Easy to be correct then.

Although I prepared for a drop I must admit I'm pretty relieved we broke upwards. Initially (couple days ago) I had been quite certain move would be up, but had increasingly become worried about the possibilities red/yellow. Probably have been reading too many bear threads... really gets to you after a while.

Let's see how much momentum this has... who knows, maybe it's a bull-trap.


Agreed with your thinking. Also, there are so many people following TA that the spike might be driven by the trend-line watchers jumping in and momentum becomes self-fulfilling. A breakout usually retests support before taking off. Heading for a retest at the moment...


I would be surprised by too much action on this weekend.

Is this down?
http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com
legendary
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haha. that wasn't a prediction (except that I said I favored green scenario). If we include your grey scenario (sideways for a while in white area in my pic), what I layed out pretty much covered all possibilities. Easy to be correct then.

Although I prepared for a drop I must admit I'm pretty relieved we broke upwards. Initially (couple days ago) I had been quite certain move would be up, but had increasingly become worried about the possibilities red/yellow. Probably have been reading too many bear threads... really gets to you after a while.

Let's see how much momentum this has... who knows, maybe it's a bull-trap.


Agreed with your thinking. Also, there are so many people following TA that the spike might be driven by the trend-line watchers jumping in and momentum becomes self-fulfilling. A breakout usually retests support before taking off. Heading for a retest at the moment...


I would be surprised by too much action on this weekend.
newbie
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legendary
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legendary
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100 satoshis -> ISO code
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haha. that wasn't a prediction (except that I said I favored green scenario). If we include your grey scenario (sideways for a while in white area in my pic), what I layed out pretty much covered all possibilities. Easy to be correct then.

Although I prepared for a drop I must admit I'm pretty relieved we broke upwards. Initially (couple days ago) I had been quite certain move would be up, but had increasingly become worried about the possibilities red/yellow. Probably have been reading too many bear threads... really gets to you after a while.

Let's see how much momentum this has... who knows, maybe it's a bull-trap.


Agreed with your thinking. Also, there are so many people following TA that the spike might be driven by the trend-line watchers jumping in and momentum becomes self-fulfilling. A breakout usually retests support before taking off. Heading for a retest at the moment...
legendary
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Drunk Posts
sr. member
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5 point jump and they swear its a bull market.   Roll Eyes
sr. member
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"to be or not to be, that is the bitcoin"
legendary
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100 satoshis -> ISO code
My own little nagging to the bears.  Grin



I like this so much I think I will print it out to pin on the wall  Smiley
newbie
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clarkmoody is down, gox live seems frozen... anyone got the 411?
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sr. member
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"to be or not to be, that is the bitcoin"
117.61 to 118.35

so boring

dump all coins then and walk away, please?
sr. member
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"to be or not to be, that is the bitcoin"

anyone care to speculate what happens to all the orders from 80-90ish down to $10 if we don't start heading that way in the coming weeks?

My understanding, mostly from reading this thread filled with comments from bitcoiners who've been around longer than myself, is that cheap coins are wanted.


If cheap coins slowly become less of a possiblity, does this make expensive coins more attractive, or the price too high and fiat preferable?

(aside: looks like I'm developing a habit to dig up older posts. oh well)

That's the million dollar question, I'd say. Here's a somewhat related observation I made during the last days:

Take the order book. (ignore for a moment the objection that some/many/all of the orders are fake). The last days saw a rather drastic increase of the bid sum/ask sum ratio (visualized nicely on blockchained). There's another calculation I make routinely, seeing how far the price would go in either directions if the entire bid sum or ask sum (or parts of it) were executed as market orders. Don't know if that technique has a fancy name (maybe 'market execution price'?), but it takes into account not only the order totals but also the price distribution.

Okay, here's the observation: the average of that execution price was rising even more sharply than the bid sum/ask sum ratio lately. Which means not only did more money enter the order book (and/or coins left it), but that order prices appreciated as well.

The conclusion I draw is that a big reason why we saw the current upward breakout is that a) new orders were placed (duh!), and b) buyers adjusted their existing orders after realizing that their overly optimistic price setting for entering the market won't be met anytime soon (less of a duh). And I suspect this trend will continue.

brilliant, thanks for the response. This makes sense
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117.61 to 118.35

so boring
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