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i reckon the ddos might be linked to that failed attempt last night to push the price down, they lost about 15k coins with the sell off and walls eaten, maybe they're desperate for their coins back cheaply. Seems quite heavy attacks today.

now comes the big fake walls trying to push the price down in the lag, this is the time when i'd be happy for gox to stop trading, then the idiots doing this can't benefit

I don't understand why someone would want to keep the price down. There's clearly someone or a group of people keeping it below $100. They slammed 4-5k coins into the rally yesterday that reached 98.5 pushing it down to 93-94. Then put up 25k worth of asks from 94-100. Those weren't old sells, half of them were from 94-98.5 that was just eaten. We know those were real because 5-6 hours later half the wall disappeared and someone dumped 11k of coins in 15 seconds into the bid wall trying to push it back. They put up ask walls trying to keep it down at 87.

That failed but they're still heavily protecting 95-100. I just don't really see why.

1) It's greatly decreasing volatility.
2) It's stabilizing the price
3) The longer it stays here the more people will actually believe this is a legitimate value for bitcoins (I'm not saying it is or isnt) Which does make it easier to rally it up (above $100) and rally it back up when it goes lower (then $90). Hard to believe someone is investing 2-3-4M to cement the physiological value of BTC.

Very little of that has to do with greed or making money at least short term. If they were greedy or wanted to make money they would have let the rally run to 110-120-130 then slammed the coins into it then and made a lot more money. It was clearly a goal to keep it under $100.

Can it really be some white knight of Bitcoin trying to stabilize the markets? The only big player who has the coins, has the money, who cares about the long term health of Bitcoin and the market, is MtGox.

Clearly someone is manipulating the market. And their goal isn't making money, at least in the short term. I just can't really figure the why or who part out. =)




interesting. I would hazard a guess that if it was non altruistic manipulation, short term money gain is nothing compared to a nice bit of market stability to rebuild confidence across the board... Let the media coverage and new retailers consolidate and legitamise bitcoins... so that it grows... but maybe, later, then they can do their dastardly deeds Shocked
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$21M is still a crazy bid sum compared to the brief peak at $16M before the crash. I'm very surprised it's still rising.

Maybe a few of those 60,000 new Gox customers that signed up in early April still want coins? Nah... that couldn't happen!

Of course not. Let us believe it is a few investors who sent millions of $ to mtgox because they just want to manipulate the price lol.

So if they ever want to withdraw their millions of $ they can either wait many days to withdraw all of it or buy bitcoins and be done in one day.....lol

"It must be a manipulator!" Lol

Yes guys it is a few millionaires sending their cash to a Japanese based bitcoin exchange and NOT to buy bitcoins.

I love the failed logic of the many noobs here.

Rofl lol omfg hahaha

 Grin
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All this bitcoin drama is making it hard to study. If you didn't know, most American colleges have final exams in mid-late April.

As soon as I saw it rising from 70 a couple days ago, I was all in. I didn't walk away with nearly as many bitcoins as I wanted to, but I still made a slight profit.
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But combined with the bid sum being back on track I think those are strong indicators for buying pressure.



(Although we have a healthier ask sum this time so hopefully the rise will be more gradual)

Please have a look at where the bid sum actually resides. Half of it is below $60/Ƀ, $2M are even below $25/Ƀ. I call manipulators all those that move millions but park them at market – 50%.

I would love to see in addition to the above chart a chart with the weighted average bid and the weighted average ask and a chart of that spread which I would call manipulators activity chart.

Some is from manipulators. But don't you think much of it could be from people convinced the price is going to come back down to $50 or lower? A lot of people have fiat waiting for their lower prices.

$21M is still a crazy bid sum compared to the brief peak at $16M before the crash. I'm very surprised it's still rising.
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http://www.foxbusiness.com/news/2013/04/18/bitcoin-buzz-draws-western-union-moneygram/

How does this "sell on good news" thing work? Could you all please SELL NOW!!!
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Summary of the last 4 hours.

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But combined with the bid sum being back on track I think those are strong indicators for buying pressure.



(Although we have a healthier ask sum this time so hopefully the rise will be more gradual)

Please have a look at where the bid sum actually resides. Half of it is below $60/Ƀ, $2M are even below $25/Ƀ. I call manipulators all those that move millions but park them at market – 50%.

I would love to see in addition to the above chart a chart with the weighted average bid and the weighted average ask and a chart of that spread which I would call manipulators activity chart.
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Precisely. Now back on the bull-wagon Cheesy
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And I'm out. Bitcoins on the way to my wallet.
You've been confusing me - when you say 'out' you mean 'out of your temporary fiat position' is that what you're saying?

He's trying to get out of gox, i think.

Speculating at its best!  Cheesy
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And I'm out. Bitcoins on the way to my wallet.
You've been confusing me - when you say 'out' you mean 'out of your temporary fiat position' is that what you're saying?
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And I'm out. Bitcoins on the way to my wallet.
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I just saw gox flicker down to 94.something yet my 95.2 buy still stands. Something screwy going on. I'll be glad when I'm out.

same thing happened to me
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I just saw gox flicker down to 94.something yet my 95.2 buy still stands. Something screwy going on. I'll be glad when I'm out.

you have a bid at 95.2, but you want out??
I think you're doing it wrong....

It's a planned exit, not a rout.

Then again, with how much I'm being interrupted today...
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i reckon the ddos might be linked to that failed attempt last night to push the price down, they lost about 15k coins with the sell off and walls eaten, maybe they're desperate for their coins back cheaply. Seems quite heavy attacks today.

now comes the big fake walls trying to push the price down in the lag, this is the time when i'd be happy for gox to stop trading, then the idiots doing this can't benefit

I don't understand why someone would want to keep the price down. There's clearly someone or a group of people keeping it below $100. They slammed 4-5k coins into the rally yesterday that reached 98.5 pushing it down to 93-94. Then put up 25k worth of asks from 94-100. Those weren't old sells, half of them were from 94-98.5 that was just eaten. We know those were real because 5-6 hours later half the wall disappeared and someone dumped 11k of coins in 15 seconds into the bid wall trying to push it back. They put up ask walls trying to keep it down at 87.

That failed but they're still heavily protecting 95-100. I just don't really see why.

1) It's greatly decreasing volatility.
2) It's stabilizing the price
3) The longer it stays here the more people will actually believe this is a legitimate value for bitcoins (I'm not saying it is or isnt) Which does make it easier to rally it up (above $100) and rally it back up when it goes lower (then $90). Hard to believe someone is investing 2-3-4M to cement the physiological value of BTC.

Very little of that has to do with greed or making money at least short term. If they were greedy or wanted to make money they would have let the rally run to 110-120-130 then slammed the coins into it then and made a lot more money. It was clearly a goal to keep it under $100.

Can it really be some white knight of Bitcoin trying to stabilize the markets? The only big player who has the coins, has the money, who cares about the long term health of Bitcoin and the market, is MtGox.

Clearly someone is manipulating the market. And their goal isn't making money, at least in the short term. I just can't really figure the why or who part out. =)

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I just saw gox flicker down to 94.something yet my 95.2 buy still stands. Something screwy going on. I'll be glad when I'm out.

you have a bid at 95.2, but you want out??
I think you're doing it wrong....
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Did everyone fall asleep?

The last hour has been pretty boring.

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I wonder if since the other exchanges are having some sort of issue if all the trading has now moved to the Gox hence the recent increase somewhat.
legendary
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Did everyone fall asleep?
Must be gox having problems...
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