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Some high-merit WO regulars (not Jay) habitually send large amounts of knee-jerk applause merit to groupthink preaching-to-the-choir posts saying things that hatters want to hear.


Merit giving is discretionary. Stop whining,you have your own discretion

Some people have poor discretion.  Your whining to accuse me of “whining” is a tell:  The truth hurts!

That should change, it’s not going to change, and I will not waste my time quibbling over it.

Nor should I continue much further with a throwaway account that is accidentally picking up way too much merit for high-quality, substantive posts.  LOL.  Whoops.  Surely, I have much to whine about. Cheesy
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Last chance to buy at the dip before we go north Smiley Got my extra 0.1btc

Yes! Yes... Last chance to buy before we go to Zer0! Cheesy Cheesy .. (or 22K ofc)  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes
[...]

NOT.

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I don't mind if it goes Up!  Shocked  Shocked
So.... basically we are supposed to go down now to somewhere between $19K < > $24K. So we can go next to 200K+. (This year)   Cool   Cool

If not, and we go up now to around $79K < > $99K, then it will probably drag along till 2 months or so with downs and ups and we will have like a weird down August/September... something... And then we will go up again and down again... It is not clean, it's dirty. Do you want a dirty thing or a clean thing?? Then we need to drop now this week. If not, we go up for 1-2 months, then we go down again for 2-3.  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes
legendary
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[discussion of moderation and merit]

The merit system was supposed to be natural:  You see a post that looks to you like a substantive contribution to community discussion.  You hit the merit button.  Accounts that make good posts rise in rank.  Nice theory!

It rapidly devolved so that you need to hire a private investigator to do a background check on an unrecognized account before sending it merit.  Well, I exaggerate—but not by much.  That’s sad, but it is inevitable.

The bounties subforums are, in essence, dedicated spam support sections for spamming other websites.  (Though I doubt those social media sites much mind; some of them are corrupt as hell.)  They are a magnet for abuse.  Add the general problem of paid signatures, and you have a recipe for problems that cannot be fixed with any kind of rank or merit system.

You, Jay, contribute hours of your own time and effort to writing substantive posts that help people.  You don’t even wear a paid signature to get some compensation for your time, as would be damn well justified in your case.  Don’t feel bad that you sent some merits to Blue King.  You were acting in good faith.

The problem would be solved by deleting the bounties subforums, and banning paid signatures.  That will not happen here, so it is anyway otiose to worry about the few merits you inadvertently sent to a spammer.  Don’t batslap yourself.



Some high-merit WO regulars (not Jay) habitually send large amounts of knee-jerk applause merit to groupthink preaching-to-the-choir posts saying things that hatters want to hear.  That should change, it’s not going to change, and I will not waste my time quibbling over it.


Merit giving is discretionary. Stop whining,you have your own discretion
legendary
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Usually there is a dump @ 30k euro, any moment now.....
legendary
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Take profit in BTC. Account PnL in BTC. BTC=money.
[discussion of moderation and merit]

The merit system was supposed to be natural:  You see a post that looks to you like a substantive contribution to community discussion.  You hit the merit button.  Accounts that make good posts rise in rank.  Nice theory!

It rapidly devolved so that you need to hire a private investigator to do a background check on an unrecognized account before sending it merit.  Well, I exaggerate—but not by much.  That’s sad, but it is inevitable.

The bounties subforums are, in essence, dedicated spam support sections for spamming other websites.  (Though I doubt those social media sites much mind; some of them are corrupt as hell.)  They are a magnet for abuse.  Add the general problem of paid signatures, and you have a recipe for problems that cannot be fixed with any kind of rank or merit system.

You, Jay, contribute hours of your own time and effort to writing substantive posts that help people.  You don’t even wear a paid signature to get some compensation for your time, as would be damn well justified in your case.  Don’t feel bad that you sent some merits to Blue King.  You were acting in good faith.

The problem would be solved by deleting the bounties subforums, and banning paid signatures.  That will not happen here, so it is anyway otiose to worry about the few merits you inadvertently sent to a spammer.  Don’t batslap yourself.



Some high-merit WO regulars (not Jay) habitually send large amounts of knee-jerk applause merit to groupthink preaching-to-the-choir posts saying things that hatters want to hear.  That should change, it’s not going to change, and I will not waste my time quibbling over it.
legendary
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I do also sometimes merit some more senior (regular) members here, even though I find it lacking in substance and lacking in commentary and taken from other folks without adequate and clear attribution... .surely we can get away with more when we are just posting memes.. and so I do not necessarily expect attributions when memes are posted.. but when there are a lot of words within the memes, then sometimes it becomes a bit more ambiguous regarding who had created that... and maybe a source/link should be provided (if it is not already stated somewhere on top of the meme).

All this is fair. However the merit whore in question posted plain text copypasta, with no attribution, and made it look like it was their own research.

Anyway, this is like 4th or 5th account in recent months trying to do that, but the amount of merits sent to such accounts is lower with each incarnation, so I think the whoring is trending the right way - down, just like corn Smiley
legendary
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The Blue King account is clearly a bot.

Wtf are you all meriting bots here?

I have that account on /ignore, you should too.
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Merry-merit-go-round!

Relevant here because Blue King received most of his merit in WO. :/

The Good

The merit system teaches exponentiation (iterated halving).  Educational!

The Bad

https://archive.ph/gGc13#selection-607.4-607.27

...then promptly received 1 merit back from Sumonkhan14.

https://archive.ph/r9t9G#selection-7273.0-7435.49
April 29, 2022, 05:00:02 AM: 1 from Sumonkhan14 for Re: What is merit and what is it for?
legendary
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Far, Far, Far Right Thug
OT:

So if you read between the lines of what prominent CEOs and corp heads are now saying, the *real* reason they now want the Fed to hike rates is revealed.

Now that consumer goods prices are jacked up way higher due to "inflation", they want the Fed to raise rates so that their input costs will decrease (eg, raw goods, materials, etc.).

With more rate hikes, consumer goods prices won't come down in response (of course), just the cost to manufacture will go down, increasing corporate profits even more.

Neat how that works, huh?  Roll Eyes

Of course the prices won't come down.

The quest for "green" energy and hating Putin is more important than anyone's poor mother being able to pay for her heating this coming winter!

Under green only windmills, solar, batteries and EVs are allowed even though they cost vast sums of finite resources to get these made initially. Someone switch off that nuclear power plant quickly, before electricity becomes too cheap!

Notice how all the guys and gals who hated Trump and were convinced he was placed there as a Putin puppet are in charge right now and shoving all these extra costs down our throats because of lockdowns, free helicopter money and banning oil & gas imports from a terrible evil single individual. Even though he can quite easily sell his evil oil and evil gas to other countries and actually make far more money than before.

And don't say a thing about Nancy Pelosi's drunken criminal husband because that is only a private matter.
If it were Trump's wife or son who had a DUI though well then it clearly would be Vladimir Putin's fault because they get drunk in Russia too those terrible, evil people.
legendary
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OT:

So if you read between the lines of what prominent CEOs and corp heads are now saying, the *real* reason they now want the Fed to hike rates is revealed.

Now that consumer goods prices are jacked up way higher due to "inflation", they want the Fed to raise rates so that their input costs will decrease (eg, raw goods, materials, etc.).

With more rate hikes, consumer goods prices won't come down in response (of course), just the cost to manufacture will go down, increasing corporate profits even more.

Neat how that works, huh?  Roll Eyes

Thanks Ursula. Top job. Keep it up.

Petrol prices hit new record high of 173p a litre as EU bans Russian oil imports
https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/petrol-prices-hit-record-high-093137411.html

I already pay far more per litre anyway as I only use premium fuels and the averages never seem as low as the official figures.

$10 per gallon in the USA soon I'm guessing.

TPTB are trying their hardest to create worldwide demand destruction for petrol.

But they also created a global inflationary environment where everyone is desperately holding on to their petrol cars longer because they can't afford a new one, and also creating a hot market for selling used petrol cars faster than new ones. Hardly anyone is buying EVs because they cost too much and EV stations are nowhere to be found.

Which all ironically puts even more petrol cars on the streets long term, not less. Roll Eyes
legendary
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Far, Far, Far Right Thug
Thanks Ursula. Top job. Keep it up.

Petrol prices hit new record high of 173p a litre as EU bans Russian oil imports
https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/petrol-prices-hit-record-high-093137411.html

I already pay far more per litre anyway as I only use premium fuels and the averages never seem as low as the official figures.

$10 per gallon in the USA soon I'm guessing.
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
I am not sure if one of them plagiarising.

I am sure. Reported. Moderators don't care. So public shaming it is then.

I think that moderators care, but it surely seems that there is a certain number of posting/attribution "mishaps" that the moderators seem to allow without totally banning a member, including some abilities for the member (especially some of the newbies) to correct the "mishaps" - which surely may well go beyond the judgement/discretion of others who believe it would be better to take a harder stance against some of the matters that seem to be well into the territory of actual plagiarizing rather than a bunch of coincidental mishaps.

So, surely it can be irritating sometimes to see that some members seem to be getting away with shit that they should either not be getting away with or that the evidence seems strong enough that there seems to be some intentionality there.

I appreciate that some member are pointing out the various members who they believe to be NOT providing sufficient substantive materials/contributions, which has caused me to reflect upon my willingness to provide merits for mere links (and links with no commentary) especially from newbies... but sometimes even considering the merit-worthiness or the substantive contributions of contents of more senior members, too.

I do also sometimes merit some more senior (regular) members here, even though I find the post(s) to be lacking in substance and lacking in commentary and taken from other folks without adequate and clear attribution... .surely we can get away with more when we are just posting memes (without much if any words contained therein or the meme is already in a large number of places on the interwebs so it is clear that we are just reposting something that someone else made).. and so I do not necessarily expect attributions when memes are posted.. and the fewer the number of words on the meme, the safer it would be to post, even without attributions.. so it seems to me..... but when there are a lot of words within the memes, then sometimes it becomes a bit more ambiguous regarding whether there needs to be an attribution or a link regarding from where did that meme come and was there a specific author or institution who had created that content that seems to have some talking points contained therein... and maybe a source/link should be provided (if it is not already stated somewhere visibly embedded within the meme).

And with the memes containing words, sometimes, even when the author of the content is listed within the picture / meme, I become critical of other members (there could be times that I end up being guilty of similar transgressions?) for not providing a link that would help any of us to get directly to the content source because sometimes there might be a need to both verify that the source had really made such statement(s) and/or also that the context of the statement (talking about within a meme - or perhaps a tweet here) could be helpful in terms of understanding what was said before or after the earlier posting of the content and how others were responding to such content... so in that regard, even well-intended longer-term members here might end up providing content that is way too ambiguous, confusing and in need of clarification (maybe even misleading?) and getting to the context in which that content had been initially made might end up showing that the content may not have meant what the potentially well-intending member had thought that the content had meant.
legendary
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BREAKING: Eurozone inflation hits 8.1%, highest level ever. Shocked
Source: https://twitter.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1531590143974559745

8.1% from the perspective of some other countries seems quite harmless, so I wouldn’t get too upset about it.


Source

Yeah but inflation is really about 25% in the UK according to my real life calculations
legendary
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Today Bitcoin price $31.5k. Shocked. My guess is that Bitcoin will go back to the previous position.The current market situation is fairly good.

If you read your post, can you see that you are writing in a way that is vague as fuck?

I believe that I understand that you are proclaiming that we are going back up.. and maybe even suggesting that the bottom might well be in (referring to our current bottom of $25,401 from May 12th)

...  I am not unsympathetic ...

Fixed that double negative for ya Jay...

You fuck!!!!!



You ruined every thing.



Did he just say you are a "SiMP-athetic" ..?!   Grin  Shocked .. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

No.  He did not say that.

You are



wwwwwwwwwrrrrrroooooooonnnnnnngggggggggggg!!!



again...



what else is new?



Probably the name Save the RF should = wrong.... at least more wrong than right...   

What's your track record Save the RF?  maybe about 90/10? 

or am I being too generous? 


I'm like that, sometimes. #justsaying  hahahahahahaha


Ken Griffin (Citadel)  – Bitcoin /regulation and various


https://youtu.be/73IeQW_E10w



....another one bites the dust

That is a fucking boss fight.  He's almost as big as the government.  But nowhere near as big as the Fed.  Says he does not understand the intent of new regulation... that's odd.  He's almost certainly involved with creating it.  I hope there is honesty in what he says in that segment.  If so the west still has some little glimmers of hope.

Surely, we realize that guys at that level speak out of both sides of their mouths... .. gotta take them with a decently large-sized grain of salt.


Last chance to buy at the dip before we go north Smiley Got my extra 0.1btc

Yes! Yes... Last chance to buy before we go to Zer0! Cheesy Cheesy .. (or 22K ofc)  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

Isn't it so funny that you are such an opposite indicator Save the RF... Remember the last 6 months or so (maybe a bit longer), you had been proclaiming that we are going to the moon.. blah blah blah..

and then in about the past two-three weeks you have been proclaiming that we are going to zero or some other random low number ($22k is it now?).... Just going by your baloney (not that you know much of anything worth knowing - even if the opposite), maybe the bottom is in?

You have a "great" track record in regards to the various alts that you have been pumping/shilling in these here parts too.. #justsaying...








NOT.


 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
legendary
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BREAKING: Eurozone inflation hits 8.1%, highest level ever. Shocked
Source: https://twitter.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1531590143974559745

8.1% from the perspective of some other countries seems quite harmless, so I wouldn’t get too upset about it.


Source
legendary
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https://bpip.org
I am not sure if one of them plagiarising.

I am sure. Reported. Moderators don't care. So public shaming it is then.
sr. member
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https://bitcoincleanup.com #EndTheFUD
Today Bitcoin price $31.5k. Shocked. My guess is that Bitcoin will go back to the previous position.The current market situation is fairly good.

Plagiarising merit whores are breeding now... wonderful.

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I am not sure if one of them plagiarising. But, Look like the Blue King guy is either selling 1 Merit to Sabriya to rank up. Or, It is his alt account.

Sabriya guy is a bounty hunter and never made a single post anywhere except the bounty section. This is the first post here and Blue King Merited it. LOL

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