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TBH, I'm getting tired of hearing about these third world countries claiming they're getting into Bitcoin, but then not really doing anything. And by 'anything', I mean more than just talking about it or just making it a legal currency. I want to see them buy bitcoin as a reserve asset by the tens of billions! Piss or get off the pot! Drain every exchange dry!

A bunch of mindless drivel and nonsense

Of course, you are not easily impressed because you think that your always wanting to be skeptical and a contrarian can justify replacing your judgement for the judgement that various public and/or quasi-public persons (and even institutional actors) have to weigh, even though from your statement here, you are showing that you likely do not have even close to enough facts to be coming out in such a prematurely negative tone in regards to information that is way more positive than you are making it out to be.

I'm not being negative JJG, just honest and factual. Until those countries' central bankers put their money where their big pie holes are (like M. Saylor, Elon Musk, Jack Dorsey, and others have done) and adopt bitcoin by buying the fuck out of it by the billions $$$$ and making it a reserve asset for their country that it deserves to be, they can rightly fuck off.

Put up or shut up. The world doesn't need more lame jawboners, what it needs is doers.

And btw, so can you. Fuck off.
legendary
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Unless the Fed's chair Powell truly does want the stonk market to implode, he needs to shut the fk up.

S&P 500 needs to bounce away from 3837 or he will likely see that.

The only reason he would want to induce that if he and all the big WS players (*cough* all his buddies *cough*) are short this market.

He very well might want to bring it down 40-50%, sure.
However, I am of the opinion that, as they lost the plot on inflation upside, they would similarly lose it on the market downside.
Somehow, they think that they can control everything, but they can't. At some point these gyrations would become of such amplitude that the whole Ruby Goldberg "machine" would beak.
Is it going to be in this cycle? Maybe 20-30% chance, but close to 100% in the next few decades.
You just can't interfere ad nauseum and always get away with it...sooner or later it would utterly fail.
2008 was a warning, imho.

Not sure what to make of bitcoin's fate during this.
Perhaps, as they would try to stop (or reverse) the rise of the dollar, bitcoin would also reverse to the upside.
We shall see if this would be more important that the halvings (or not)..
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7 Red Weekly Candles for the first time in the history of Bitcoin and you still call it Bull run? my arse.
Midwit's will now ask me to zoom out the chart holy F  Grin

Even emPty Gox only ever had 4 weeks of Red candles for many periods during 2011.





Well you guys are right that there has never been 7 consecutive red weekly candles before. But what I have noticed during 2018-10-22 to 2018-12-10 (period of 8 weeks) price dropped from $7680 to $3156, it was -58% price drop. And that time too there were 7/8 red weekly candles.

Ok now we got 7 red weekly candles but price drop is from $48,189 to $26,700 which -44%. So no way these can be worst weeks of bitcoin.

Even if you consider ATH of that period and now you will see:

2017 ATH $19,789 to $3,156  => -84%
2021 ATH $69,000 to $26,700 => -61%

So no, we are not having the worst weeks of bitcoin yet. 7 red candles or 8 still stats saying otherwise.

HODL




legendary
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legendary
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7 Red Weekly Candles for the first time in the history of Bitcoin and you still call it Bull run? my arse.
Midwit's will now ask me to zoom out the chart holy F  Grin

Even emPty Gox only ever had 4 weeks of Red candles for many periods during 2011.



So what?

What's your point?

Are you trying to imply that bitcoin is more doomed these days than it was in 2011?

Seems to me that the investment case for bitcoin is getting stronger and stronger with the passage of time.. aka Lindy effect, and it seems to me that you are going to be hard pressed to argue otherwise.

So?

What do you want to say exactly?  Do you believe that 7 weekly red candles in a row indicates more down? bitcoin is going to zero?  

Let's hear it.  

'splain ur nebulous lil selfie.

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Simple. During 2011 there was 1 major exchange.
During 2022 there are >1 major exchange, comparing volume and weekly dildos against market data that is largely not even publicly available is misleading at best.
Like comparing climate change when we have only been keeping track for 150 years.


My gut is it is a terrible idea since that second layer (LN) is very much like staking but I simply do not know much about the world.
Lightning works like staking, but there are two important differences:

  • No coin generation.
  • Actual usefulness. (Routing TX)

You forgot
3. LN node operators don't really make any money, they are doing it for fun.


Also, why do folks continue to ignore the Core Devs? Like they're never going to touch the code ever again over the next 100 years to make adjustments?


LN is just another 3rd party similar to Western Union. WU does not generate new $$ they do however charge a fee and don't do it for fun. LN operators are earning a fee via self-adjusting modifications to their channel, likely a compromise of throughput versus bandwidth.

oh gawd...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

For sure, I don't claim to be any kind of technical genius, but your attempt to compare/contrast lightning network with Western Union comes off as lame as fuck, at best.   With such comparison attempt, it's like you are providing more confusion than clarity.

Hey, PoolMinor, slap, slap, slap... ... Do you not know nuttin?

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

LN provides a money laundering service that is not transparent, until it is regulated as WU had eventually came to be it will continue to launder money for a fee.

1. Coin generation---no but does generate income for the channel owner
2. Usefulness---Money laundering (see above)
3. LN node operators don't really......--They do make money just negligible.....and fun?? Bob doesn't sound very amused.
legendary
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7 Red Weekly Candles for the first time in the history of Bitcoin and you still call it Bull run? my arse.
Midwit's will now ask me to zoom out the chart holy F  Grin

Even emPty Gox only ever had 4 weeks of Red candles for many periods during 2011.



So what?

What's your point?

Are you trying to imply that bitcoin is more doomed these days than it was in 2011?

Seems to me that the investment case for bitcoin is getting stronger and stronger with the passage of time.. aka Lindy effect, and it seems to me that you are going to be hard pressed to argue otherwise.

So?

What do you want to say exactly?  Do you believe that 7 weekly red candles in a row indicates more down? bitcoin is going to zero? 

Let's hear it. 

'splain ur nebulous lil selfie.

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

My gut is it is a terrible idea since that second layer (LN) is very much like staking but I simply do not know much about the world.
Lightning works like staking, but there are two important differences:

  • No coin generation.
  • Actual usefulness. (Routing TX)

You forgot
3. LN node operators don't really make any money, they are doing it for fun.


Also, why do folks continue to ignore the Core Devs? Like they're never going to touch the code ever again over the next 100 years to make adjustments?


LN is just another 3rd party similar to Western Union. WU does not generate new $$ they do however charge a fee and don't do it for fun. LN operators are earning a fee via self-adjusting modifications to their channel, likely a compromise of throughput versus bandwidth.

oh gawd...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

For sure, I don't claim to be any kind of technical genius, but your attempt to compare/contrast lightning network with Western Union comes off as lame as fuck, at best.   With such comparison attempt, it's like you are providing more confusion than clarity.

Hey, PoolMinor, slap, slap, slap... ... Do you not know nuttin?

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
hero member
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bitcoin retard
Hi boys, bitcoin doing what bitcoin is supposed to do. Observing $29406, four year cycles live on in my opinion. Going to be a boring couple of years with some capitulation added in for good measure. Continue to stack, everything under $30,000 is an absolute bargain but don’t blow all your dry powder right now. We will have opportunities at $25,000 & possibly close to $20,000.

This game is too easy, sell some 12-18 months after the halving & start buying back in January for 12-18 months.
Keep buying until late 2023, then wait for the next bull run.

Exactly..  But that's an indicator for me that it will change rather sooner than later.



legendary
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My gut is it is a terrible idea since that second layer (LN) is very much like staking but I simply do not know much about the world.
Lightning works like staking, but there are two important differences:

  • No coin generation.
  • Actual usefulness. (Routing TX)

You forgot
3. LN node operators don't really make any money, they are doing it for fun.


Also, why do folks continue to ignore the Core Devs? Like they're never going to touch the code ever again over the next 100 years to make adjustments?


LN is just another 3rd party similar to Western Union. WU does not generate new $$ they do however charge a fee and don't do it for fun. LN operators are earning a fee via self-adjusting modifications to their channel, likely a compromise of throughput versus bandwidth.
legendary
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XXXVII Fnord is toast without bread
7 Red Weekly Candles for the first time in the history of Bitcoin and you still call it Bull run? my arse.
Midwit's will now ask me to zoom out the chart holy F  Grin

Even emPty Gox only ever had 4 weeks of Red candles for many periods during 2011.




legendary
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TBH, I'm getting tired of hearing about these third world countries claiming they're getting into Bitcoin, but then not really doing anything. And by 'anything', I mean more than just talking about it or just making it a legal currency. I want to see them buy bitcoin as a reserve asset by the tens of billions! Piss or get off the pot! Drain every exchange dry! I mean ffs, if idiots like Do Kwon can buy $1 Billion worth of btc to back his stupid shitcoin, then surely these Central Banks can buy several billion dollars worth EACH, if not more.

It's what we all want to see and hear, but so far they're just jawboning. I don't even feel like El Salvador has bought enough bitcoin in reserve to impress me yet.

I have felt the same.  And as was mentioned some folks are probably dipping their toes in hoping the IMF won't call their bluff.  But at the same time it seems almost impossible for at least a HANDFUL of these countries are not getting in.  How long will that take?  Not sure. Seems like a fairly large scale project.

But part of the point is Bukele and his country have done so much of the legwork already.  I imagine deals being made to use software, etc.  The way he rolls I would almost not be surprised if he gave away some of the tech they developed.  He SHOULD, as getting other countries on board here is a big deal.

The silence from the western media is possibly the most telling thing.

This is a threat to the system, for sure.

I still worry for Bukele...  he has a  pretty big target on him at this point.

I agree with everything that you are saying, but still seems to me that the "bluff" angle is a weird way of framing motivations, even if there might be some truth to it.


I feel something resembling pain

Great, got some pretty low buy orders  Grin

EDIT: Got hit already, adding some a lil lower.

Rooting for down is not becoming....


.... especially for a coiner.



Justsaying.







Now, a no coiner.. I could see why they might be rooting for downity.


Hi boys, ......


This game is too easy.......

for sure I had to lol at that one... and part of the reason for my lol (and complementary rotf) is that you are actually serious... mostly serious...


 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



 Wink #nohomo



LOL
Def. a Satoshi Billionaire

This guy reeks of being one of those youtubers posing as a rich guy, in order to lure in people to invest their money in his "fund".

Even Tai Lopez did a better job tbh  Cheesy


Even before watching the video I felt pretty good, including that I had weathered the UPs and DOWNs of bitcoin pretty damned well and had not gotten distracted into various shitcoins, etc etc.. nonetheless, the guy (Chris) made me feel poor. and even questioning why I had not wasted any of my time/energies with NFTs.. ... a supposed bitcoiner who seems to be quite obsessed with NFTs and consumption of the latest and greatest - with little to no clutter, either... ..
legendary
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legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"

This is a shot of central bankers and finance ministers from 40+ countries that Nayib Bukele invited to El Salvador for a conference on using Bitcoin as a nation.
The list of countries reads like a whos who of the folks that would be targeted by the IMF et al with their loans etc. These folks are looking to get off the plantation, and they are doing so en masse.
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I am glad to see that my country's bank is also on this list. I heard this a few days ago but didn't believe it. I want to ask whether it is authentic. Do you know anything that was discussed there? Any news source where I can read more details? I believe this could be a baby step in bitcoin adoption worldwide.

Edit: All I found from google is they invited 40+ central banks to discuss crypto/Bitcoin. I didn't find any details.


You seem to not be trying very hard.   Just a few posts up (from yours) there was a post from Lucius... see below:


At a glance I do not see much about the following here... my apologies if it has been already discussed.
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They did this quietly, and it has not been covered much by mainstream western news.
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Probably nothing, right?

There is a thread in Bitcoin Discussion from 2 days ago. And the fact that the mainstream media is not too interested in such events should not surprise us too much - Bitcoin is not interesting to them at the moment, and reporting on the war is a much more profitable thing.

As I already wrote in the already mentioned thread, let people talk and try to learn something new, and if something useful comes out of everything we will say that the meeting was a success - and if not, it wouldn’t be the first time it all ended with lots of food, drinks and good fun.


The El Salvador thread also has some discussion of the banker meeting in El Salvador topic.


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60162771
legendary
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Mega pump incoming

still kind of waiting for it... do you have an eta??  Tongue

Lol . Yeah when you least expect it
legendary
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Hi boys, bitcoin doing what bitcoin is supposed to do. Observing $29406, four year cycles live on in my opinion. Going to be a boring couple of years with some capitulation added in for good measure. Continue to stack, everything under $30,000 is an absolute bargain but don’t blow all your dry powder right now. We will have opportunities at $25,000 & possibly close to $20,000.

This game is too easy, sell some 12-18 months after the halving & start buying back in January for 12-18 months.
Keep buying until late 2023, then wait for the next bull run.

legendary
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TBH, I'm getting tired of hearing about these third world countries claiming they're getting into Bitcoin, but then not really doing anything. And by 'anything', I mean more than just talking about it or just making it a legal currency. I want to see them buy bitcoin as a reserve asset by the tens of billions! Piss or get off the pot! Drain every exchange dry!

Get the fuck out of here, you negative nancy.

Do you believe that some of those small countries can really feel comfortable adopting bitcoin if they speculate that they are going to end up getting attacked by various western powers that be, whether attacked by IMF, USgovt, other banks, rich institutions, mainstream media?  

Meeting and learning about bitcoin might well help them out to figure out some kind of way that they believe that they are able to get involved in a way that will end up working for their own situation.

You believe that you know about their situation better than them?  You believe that they already knew about bitcoin for as long as you, and they should have done the same thing as your smart ass individual had been able to do?

Fuck that nonsense.

I hate to be referencing Saylor too much as if I worship him like a god, when that is not the case.  Saylor has a lot of great ideas and insight, and recall in February 2021 he had conducted a conference to help to provide information and materials to help to teach institutions (and perhaps rich peeps too?) regarding how they may well learn how to get into bitcoin, and providing some roadmaps and materials, and surely even prior to that 2021 conference he had been talking about how much more flexible it is for individuals to get into bitcoin as compared with institutions, and even his company (MSTR) had way more flexibility based on its having had been dominated by him as the main shareholder and even privately held companies would likely have more difficulties than individuals, but fewer difficulties than larger companies or even publicly held companies.

Saylor had mentioned that even in the better case scenarios it may well take a company 6 months or longer just to get to the point in which they are authorizing the purchase of bitcoin, when an individual might only take a week or two.. depending on if s/he already has money available and has decided upon where to make their purchases (presuming that they are not too hampered by buying limitations).

Countries (and central banks) likely have way more considerations as compared with some potentials that companies might have - but even if we consider countries and/or central banks as being able to potentially act quickly, they likely feel way better when they have the cover of others adopting or even some of the steps that Fidelity had taken in allowing their 401ks to include 20% bitcoin could be helpful in providing both cover and investment vehicles into BTC while they are still learning about it (or maybe even unlearning some of the various matters they had previously believed about bitcoin).

Even when we have some bitcoiners who seem to fail/refuse to understand the difference between bitcoin and shitcoins, do you believe that some of the nocoiner central bankers/or bankers of various third world countries are going to be more educated about the various ways that bitcoin is different from shitcoins?

I mean ffs, if idiots like Do Kwon can buy $1 Billion worth of btc to back his stupid shitcoin, then surely these Central Banks can buy several billion dollars worth EACH, if not more.

Oh?  now you want central bankers to acquire the same level of buying flexibilty of a likely intentional scammer, like Do Kwon.

You are making a whole hell of a lot of senses...















NOT..



By the way, in recent days more information is coming out regarding the level of dweeb - and likely intentional scamminess regarding Do Kwon's behavior, and surely many of us would have already suspected that the guy was up to no good, but surely some of the recently revealed facts are seeming to show pretty damned strong inferences (if not direct evidence) that he was using bitcoin reserves (and perhaps other assets) to bail out selected folks (maybe even his lil selfie) rather than defending the peg like he was supposed to be doing with that money.. in other words, those fuck twats were likely ONLY causing the appearance of acting in good faith to defend the peg.. so yeah, they are going to try to make it look like they had been innocently trying to be innovative, while they were engaging in criminal levels of favoritism towards their buddies and likely their lil selfies too... so yeah, compare quasi-public actors (to the extent that bankers might retain public mandates) to the flexibility of a creative scammer... that makes lots of senses.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

It's what we all want to see and hear, but so far they're just jawboning. I don't even feel like El Salvador has bought enough bitcoin in reserve to impress me yet.

Of course, you are not easily impressed because you think that your always wanting to be skeptical and a contrarian can justify replacing your judgement for the judgement that various public and/or quasi-public persons (and even institutional actors) have to weigh, even though from your statement here, you are showing that you likely do not have even close to enough facts to be coming out in such a prematurely negative tone in regards to information that is way more positive than you are making it out to be.
legendary
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Does anyone have the email address for the manager of Bitcoin? I want to ask him to stop selling at a discount.

Dear Karen,

here at Bitcoin HQ we take your concerns seriously. We understand that you are complaining about bitcoins sold at a low price. We are happy to inform you that we are doing everything we can to stop this. Everyone who sold bitcoins below $30k had their HODLER title revoked. If the unacceptable sales continue, we are ready to take further measures, up to and including nasty tweets, personal visit by Vitalik Buterin, and banning import of avocados.

Sincerely,
George Soros
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Glassnode Report shows How Luna made a big mistake by making BTC as a primary Reserve.
And how Luna Destroyed their own chain and total market by Dumping BTC.

https://insights.glassnode.com/the-week-onchain-week-20-2022/

Top Reason was like Market was in panic and on that Luna made Dumb decision by adjusting the UST to be fixed by Selling BTC Reserves.. which made BTC dump and a more panic

No matter what centralized bodies as Binance and Gemini Exchange announced in this matter onchain data is clearing everything flow BTC suddenly increases by 88k BTC ahhhh. By magic ? Naa its Reserve selling.

It was the fate of LUNA by own team mistakes we can't do anything.

History as a famous proverb is Time Repeats itself BTC is too close to its Realized value by a small gap of 9.5% can we expect a Come back in market from that point or sode ways movement.



Well History says that Last time BTC traded 7 days on its Realized value or close to it and then market made a good move in Bullish Mode..

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