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legendary
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Right, nice, so going all in on a hope that their total financial collapse would divide Russians instead of uniting them. Where do you put the odds at?

Quite the contrary, uniting against Putin and his cronies is a better outcome for everyone involved. The odds of that are probably higher than the other way round, because the lies from Kremlin are already outrageous and will have to get even more blatant if they try to keep the lid on it.

Of course Soviets were able to sustain the lying for 70 years but they didn't have the intertubes.

Ok so we got the odds, now on to figuring out the prize. Upside is easy, Putin is toppled Russia is a shithole. But downside is...nuclear war? The best our diplomacy can come up with is lets use a nuclear financial option on a 69yr Putin, and hope really hard he doesn't take it as a declaration of war as he said he would?
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Right, nice, so going all in on a hope that their total financial collapse would divide Russians instead of uniting them. Where do you put the odds at?

Quite the contrary, uniting against Putin and his cronies is a better outcome for everyone involved. The odds of that are probably higher than the other way round, because the lies from Kremlin are already outrageous and will have to get even more blatant if they try to keep the lid on it.

Of course Soviets were able to sustain the lying for 70 years but they didn't have the intertubes.
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say they're all assholes.


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-"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
A bit unclear who they are going to fire them at though.

As soon the nuclear missile will be fired, the same second bitcoin will reach the all time high. If somehow, there is no more war, bitcoin still move to all time high from here.

I posted this before, but reminder for those who thinks nuclear war can be won:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_assured_destruction

Without internet, no decentralized currency will work, that includes Bitcoin.
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say they're all assholes.
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I'm the only one promoting peace at the moment, didn't get a single person in here to agree about that either (so far).

I am not going to proclaim to really know what is going on, even though I have heard that both that Putin was the aggressor, and I also heard that Putin had the right to go into Ukraine because there had been infringement upon the security cushion of his country.

The evidence does seem to favor that Putin has been going in and taking over various places, so how does anyone advocate for peace if that kind of conduct keeps happening.  I think that part of the fear would be that if you just give up and allow him to do what he wants (such as taking over Ukraine), he is not going to stop there, right?...

We could say, from here on out, we want peace, yet even if we take this to a personal level, we could be kumbaya in our regular lives, but if people figure out that you are not going to fight, there are people who are going to take advantage of that... peace is not an easy thing to achieve because there are a lot of injustices in the world and even perceptions of injustices, so in that regard, sometimes the "have nots" are going to perceive that it is NOT to their advantage to play by the rules... and in that regard, they are going to perceive that it is to their advantage to use NON-peaceful tactics.. whether talking at the individual level or extrapolating out at larger levels whether institutions or governments.

People do not even necessarily agree about aspects of the new world order or too much coordination between governments because there are thoughts that rules should be establish moreso on a local level... so in that regard, there can be pretty large differences of opinion regarding what the rules should be and in that same regard, some folks are not going to concede to peaceful means in giving way to which rules dominate.. so in that regard, do we just proclaim that ONLY peaceful means are acceptable and the peaceful proponents are likely going to end up getting beat up and bullied by those who do not believe in playing under those peaceful proponent rules (except maybe merely to feign their tactics)...

TDLR: Lovey dovey goals of peace are likely easier said than done.. and you may well get fucked if you do not prepare for more aggressive tactics from opponents who might be wanting to gain value by other than peaceful means.  In other words, probably the overwhelming majority already agree that peace might be the end-goal, but might not consider peace as a realistic way of approaching what is perceived as a bully on the other side.. and perhaps both sides perceive the other side as the bully/instigator/aggressor...  

Well, time to start activating the nuclear war plan. Oi. Between "Rat packs in the Capitol", Autarky government, and of course global pandemic I'm running low on new scenarios.

Alien invasion anyone?

For all of us to consider none of us are getting out of this world 🌍 alive. We all exit via death.

So rather then fight and hurt why not party 🎉 and love.

An idea to consider.

Oh gawd... Roll Eyes

Same response to you as the one I made above.

Not sure why we have such detachment from reality.. and guys proclaiming that it should be like this blah blah blah kumbaya.. while ignoring the actual current dynamics... don't even need to blame one side or another to find that there is a bit of a pickle to just get from the current state to blanket statements of a preferred state of lovey-dovey.
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A bit unclear who they are going to fire them at though.

As soon the nuclear missile will be fired, the same second bitcoin will reach the all time high. If somehow, there is no more war, bitcoin still move to all time high from here.
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To secure their livelihoods we have no choice but to declare war including the use of nuclear weapons on those cities.

I think you mean to commit a suicide... nuking the West won't un-collapse the ruble, it will just turn Russia and most of the world into a radioactive dump.

Russians are reasonably smart, they will eventually figure out that the best way to fix this is to get rid of the Kremlin clown, it's just taking them a minute.

Putin is 69 years old.

The odds of an American 69 year old  male dying in his 69th year are about 75 to 1

Since Russia has a higher death rate the odds of a Russian 69 year old picked at random dying in his 69th year are about 72 to 1.

Since

A) I do not know Putin's health
B) I do not know anyone plotting for him or against him

I will peg the odds of him dying in his 69th year of life as 69 to 1 (why not as 69 is a good number).
It is pretty harsh that thousands of deaths will happen if a 69 to 1 shot does not come in.
To all of us lets be hopeful for that 69 to 1 shot comes in or Putin realizes he should do a 100% turnaround.




Now below is a cool outcome which would baffle everyone.

If Putin fully switch and did a 100% about face it would be a brilliant move on his part as the entire world would be baffled by the move.

So Mr Putin or I guess President Putin how about an about face?

To me if he completely changed tactics no one would ever know what the fuck he is up to.
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Bitcoin Bottom was at $15.4k
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Bitcoin Average RSI is 48 ~ Neutral
Current Price: $39,100


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To secure their livelihoods we have no choice but to declare war including the use of nuclear weapons on those cities.

I think you mean to commit a suicide... nuking the West won't un-collapse the ruble, it will just turn Russia and most of the world into a radioactive dump.

Russians are reasonably smart, they will eventually figure out that the best way to fix this is to get rid of the Kremlin clown, it's just taking them a minute.

Right, nice, so going all in on a hope that their total financial collapse would divide Russians instead of uniting them. Where do you put the odds at?
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
Well, time to start activating the nuclear war plan. Oi. Between "Rat packs in the Capitol", Autarky government, and of course global pandemic I'm running low on new scenarios.

Alien invasion anyone?

that scenario would be pretty relaxing in comparison to be honest
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To secure their livelihoods we have no choice but to declare war including the use of nuclear weapons on those cities.

I think you mean to commit a suicide... nuking the West won't un-collapse the ruble, it will just turn Russia and most of the world into a radioactive dump.

Russians are reasonably smart, they will eventually figure out that the best way to fix this is to get rid of the Kremlin clown, it's just taking them a minute.
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The now famous Bitfinex hack, in a legal nutshell. (and on topic, imagine that)

"Crypto Couple Steals $4 Billion Poorly"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwaTRqtd5Ug

(apologies if this has already been shared amongst the plethora of Ukraine stuff, I didn't check.)
legendary
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This will be a problem for the hotels, not for the guests.

I'm sure the guests will be overly happy to have their (early booking) advance payments lost because they cannot pay (in euro) the rest for their accommodation for the holidays.

Pretty sure taking all off Russias reserve's would collapse the ruble. Hotels would be the last of the worries. Now imagine this, Putin comes out addressing his nation of 150mil people saying that US and EU countries that Russian hasn't even touched and are not part of this conflict just used a nuclear financial option on them, they stole everyone's pensions, college savings funds, and all of their savings (which technically would be true, not getting into justifications). Central banks located in the following cities...are holding all of their futures and their children's futures hostage. To secure their livelihoods we have no choice but to declare war including the use of nuclear weapons on those cities. Those cities have 7days to give back what is rightfully ours and was never theirs. Doomsday clock moves to one min to midnight, EU starts a meeting on whether they can hold the funds at the direct risk of a nuclear war at T- 7days. With every passing day price of ammo, guns, gold, bitcoin skyrockets, and all of the currencies collapse. Welcome to Madmax 2022

Madman playing chicken with everyone's lives, seeing who blinks first. Thats where millions years of evolution got us.
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This is the best explanation I've seen so far (ran out of merits again), too bad we don't solve all conflicts with sports.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xZmlUV8muY
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This friendly Englishman chap makes excellent travel vids, and he speaks fluent Russian.
Here's his latest, traveling across Ukraine, as he chats with the locals, the day before invasion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2rBUvWKSZw&t

Thank you for this gem.
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