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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"

Quote from: Biodom on October 18, 2021, 09:15:55 PM

"Futures had never been established in bitcoin" ^TM, signed: @JJG

I am glad that we are NOT on the same page.... that's good... otherwise I would be waiting for bitcoin to reach $10 million based on a lump sum investment in 2015... and that would not be a comfortable place to be.

Quote from: Biodom on October 18, 2021, 09:15:55 PM

..I keep getting surprised, but I really shouldn't be.

Stawp it. I am blushing.

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Quote from: Paashaas on October 18, 2021, 12:50:13 PM

Before anti-vaxxers complain about the vaccine, those complications was a result of multiple myeloma, a blood cancer which wrecked his immune system and he was 84.

He didn't die FROM COVID19. He died WITH COVID19.

Subtle, but important difference.

😬

He was "fully vaccinated" and had the china virus when he died..

"Vaccines" are a joke..

didn't Bob made a new thread for WO regulars favorite virus-related topics?
oh, yeah, he did, but i don't have a link handy.

That never stopped you previously from saying whatever you would like to say right here in these here parts,.. so why stop now?

Biodom

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Quote from: eddie13 on October 18, 2021, 09:54:43 PM

Quote from: BobLawblaw on October 18, 2021, 08:34:18 PM

Quote from: Paashaas on October 18, 2021, 12:50:13 PM

Before anti-vaxxers complain about the vaccine, those complications was a result of multiple myeloma, a blood cancer which wrecked his immune system and he was 84.

He didn't die FROM COVID19. He died WITH COVID19.

Subtle, but important difference.

😬

He was "fully vaccinated" and had the china virus when he died..

"Vaccines" are a joke..

didn't Bob made a new thread for WO regulars favorite virus-related topics?
oh, yeah, he did, but i don't have a link handy.

ChartBuddy

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eddie13

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BTC or BUST

Quote from: BobLawblaw on October 18, 2021, 08:34:18 PM

Quote from: Paashaas on October 18, 2021, 12:50:13 PM

Before anti-vaxxers complain about the vaccine, those complications was a result of multiple myeloma, a blood cancer which wrecked his immune system and he was 84.

He didn't die FROM COVID19. He died WITH COVID19.

Subtle, but important difference.

😬

He was "fully vaccinated" and had the china virus when he died..

"Vaccines" are a joke..

Syke

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Valkyrie Bitcoin Strategy ETF changed its ticker to $BTFD. Institutions are wising up to how things work now.

Biodom

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"Futures had never been established in bitcoin" ^TM, signed: @JJG

..I keep getting surprised, but I really shouldn't be.

JayJuanGee

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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"

Quote from: Biodom on October 18, 2021, 08:50:17 PM

@JJG "they" are obviously big money shorts who wait a few mo before establishing a nice fat shorts of those long investor killer futures based ETFs and NEVER close those shorts..ever.

Yes... "they" wait a few months because it would not be as profitable to fight the trend. Last time I heard, the trend is your friend. Have you changed that, too?

Quote from: Biodom on October 18, 2021, 08:50:17 PM

It would be funny if it wasn't so sad-just check the darned charts.

Futures had never been established in bitcoin, so there are no charts for me to check. Just letting you know.

Quote from: Biodom on October 18, 2021, 08:50:17 PM

What are you arguing about: words or ideas? I know...words, of course.

Who's arguing? Uie poo-ie?

You just said what you believe is going to happen, and why you believe it is going to happen and who is going to cause it to happen.. ... good job with your making of a prediction... now let's see if it happens, or not.

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Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 18, 2021, 12:47:46 PM

That's the start of your having had become so damned jaded, perhaps?

No doubt.

Jaded since a mere kid.. The math teachers stole your childhood.

That must suck.

Cry

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Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 18, 2021, 12:47:46 PM

That's the start of your having had become so damned jaded, perhaps?

No doubt.

ChartBuddy

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Biodom

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@JJG "they" are obviously big money shorts who wait a few mo before establishing a nice fat shorts of those long investor killer futures based ETFs and NEVER close those shorts..ever.
It would be funny if it wasn't so sad-just check the darned charts.
What are you arguing about: words or ideas? I know...words, of course.

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Quote from: Paashaas on October 18, 2021, 12:50:13 PM

Before anti-vaxxers complain about the vaccine, those complications was a result of multiple myeloma, a blood cancer which wrecked his immune system and he was 84.

He didn't die FROM COVID19. He died WITH COVID19.

Subtle, but important difference.

😬

JayJuanGee

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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"

Quote from: Biodom on October 18, 2021, 07:05:56 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on October 18, 2021, 05:11:05 PM

how does the etf make a profit.

etf company makes profit on the fees.

long term short makes the profit off off gullible long investors in such futures-based etf.
that said, typically they allow them to pop 50-80% initially to establish the short at better (higher) prices.

I did not know that there was any "they" that was "allowing".... go figure?.. learning a mile a minute in these here parts.

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Eadem mutata resurgo

... etf ... ATH

Adagio for ATH

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Quote from: philipma1957 on October 18, 2021, 05:11:05 PM

how does the etf make a profit.

etf company makes profit on the fees.

long term short makes the profit off of gullible long investors in such futures-based etf.
that said, typically they allow ~~them~~ those ETFs to pop 50-80% initially to establish the short at better (higher) prices.

ChartBuddy

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Rambo works for me too.

edit: Rotated for clarity.

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The American Dream Is Dead And Bitcoin Has Replaced It

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Quote from: philipma1957 on October 18, 2021, 05:11:05 PM

So I look at the article/ video about BTC etf.

The woman says she thinks it is fatally flawed and that if btc goes up 🆙 your etf loses money if you roll it over to a new etf.

I get that part. but what I don’t get is how does the etf make a profit.

say i pay 60k for a 30 day etf based on 1 coin and in 20 days btc is 70k what is my contract worth?

I am thinking there is a profit level of some kind in the etf if you sell it before it expires.

It gives an ability to bet on downward BTC prices (against all of us bulltards buying actual bitcoin) without having to actually buy (and then sell) bitcoin.

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