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legendary
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The Concierge of Crypto
For us coiners, this may be something like maybe one of the stablecoins, if you don't like the cash sitting in your fiat bank account.

Fuck stable coins.

Oh gawd..  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  you are going there?  I mean.. you went there?

I went there for you, so you don't have to. Tongue

I understand your complete hatred for all shitcoins (stablecoins included), but I got this from listening to mostly bitcoin podcasts, like "What Bitcoin Did" and Willy Woo.. If you are keeping fiat in a bank account, or on an exchange, then it's not very much different than keeping stablecoins. At least, with stablecoins, you control the private keys until you need to spend it and can pick which exchange to use it on, and what bank to withdraw the fiat to.

Since we are not trading, the allocation to shitcoins like the US dollar, or the similarly priced USDC, DAI, or whatever stablecoin is going to be relatively small compared to your bitcoin holdings, all of which can remain in cold storage until the minute you need to cash it out. A very few people actually keep cold cash (as in paper bills) in their homes, that's usually not a good idea unless you have specific reasons.
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Bitconnect, finally in the news. Those around in 2017 will remember that lending coin that wrecked many, so to say.



https://beincrypto.com/sec-lawsuit-bitconnect-founder-role-crypto-fraud/




That time when it's cold outside and u'r sitting with a hot cocoa mug in your hand, watching the slow rain outside and listening to this masterpiece:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qwaiJFV1Zg
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Blockstream Jade initial review.

TLDR: Meh+, but will a lot of potential if they choose to really build it out.  For people who want a bitcoin only wallet there is little reason now to get this rather than a Coldcard, or Trezor w/ BTC only firmware.  Really, currently Price is the only advantage.  But in time air-gapped tx signing, and Liquid use may also be a good use. The current BIGGEST omission is no BIP39 passphrease support (!?!??!)

So I am sitting here on a live Arch linux (EndeavorOS) desktop using GParted to move my RaspiBlitz data drive from a 500G SSD to a 1T SSD.  I find myself wishing I had sprung for the 2T SSD because sitting here waiting for the damn data to copy over, while still not knowing if this is going to even work, and knowing I will just have to do it again in a few years?  Well... let's just say hooray small blocks.  And I need something to do in the meantime, so I will write my impressions of the Blockstream Jade hardware wallet.

Size and form factor  8/10
 It is pretty close to two Ledgers.  It's the same length and width, but 2x as deep basically.  So it's a decent size. Small but usable.  And does not take up tons of room in your pocket.  It is designed to be used in landscape mode holding it longways like the Ledger. The screen is much bigger though... about the same size as the Trezor's screen, but is also full color, which is unimportant to me, but a nice touch.  It feels decent.  It has (potentially) three controls with 5 switches.  A power button, and rocker dial that can also be depressed, and a main button on the face.  Not sure why they have all these buttons.  They are not using them yet.

Setup 6/10
 This was annoying.  I chose to use a private key that I produced with coinflips ($4 worth of quarters x 16 shake/flips) and a python script I wrote to convert this to the 24 word mnemonic. When you first turn it on it wants to either produce a seed phrase (probably the better choice) or "restore" one.  I chose the latter and took the time to input it.  The method is reasonable and works fairly well.  You enter the 24 words in using the rocker and main button and the alphabet laid out A-Z on the screen.  It eliminates the letters you do not need based on what you have entered so far, and also presents you with a word list once there are as many of those as remaining letters (or less).  This process is decent on this device, aside from the fact I found the rocker switch to be a little fiddly.  Sometimes I had to rock it a couple times to get it to respond.  That made the process annoying slightly.

Then once I had entered in ALL TWENTYFOUR WORDS it asked to be plugged into a device that had GREEN installed.  I chose to be troublesome and plugged it into my phone. Wink  It WORKED!

But... Sad

It then decided to update the firmware... and guess what... after updating the firmware it restarted and was blank again! *Sigh* OK AGAIN with the 24 words and the fiddly rocker switch.

On the second try the device froze during the entry of word 17.  I waited.  I hoped. I said a little prayer.  I said "whassa whassa whassssup"?  I told it I thought Adam Back is Satoshi.  But I don't think that, and I guess it knew because in the end I just had to hold the power button down and START ALL OVER AGAIN.  FUCK.  

On the third try I finally got the seed in again and connected it to my phone with a USB cable (Not the one that came with it which is a USB A to USB C cable as you would expect... but I have a C->C cable and used that... worked fine).  Thank GOD.


Use with phone 6/10
: Then I was able to get Green loaded on my phone and it saw the device.  But it was very spotty working with Green on the phone.  It crashed a few times, and the connection was not always working.  But when it DID work it seemed solid. I went into both BTC and L-BTC wallets and did some transactions. I may regret the BTC transaction of ~50k sats since fees might go too high to use that in the future. I might wait for a lull to send them back.  Green is decent, but it's a little unituative switching back and forth between liquid and bitcoin wallets.

Use with Computer TBD : When I have some time after I upgrade this SDD I will review this part.  Hopefully it's a little stronger.

Bluetooth 6/10
:  I found this to be very spotty.  Most times it would not connect. But once it did it kept the connection and worked well.  But is this a security risk?  Thining it through I figure it probably is.  But would require an sophisticated  attacker in fairly close proximity.  And it can be turned off.

Cable connection 9/10:  This worked almost every time but Green did crash once?

PIN 9/10
The device uses a PIN.  It used a 6 character pin like Green does. Other than the slightly fiddly rocker, works fine.

Use with Specter TBD: The only independent wallet that supports it so far that I know of.  I will also review later.

LACK OF BIP39 PASSPHRASE 0/10
: What the ACTUAL feck?  Isn't blockstream founded by an OG Cypherpunk?  Why the HELL would they release this thing without implementing one of the most important developments of BIP39, and for that matter ANY BIP?  I would almost rather have the passphrase but not HD addresses.  At least liquid has confidential transactions.  This is a ridiculous omission.  And if they do not implement it, I will not use this device much at all.  I cannot decide if I would rather a Ledger like implementation ,or a Trezor like one.  But it HAS to happen.

Camera 5/10: This is a great feature. But they have not built this out much yet either.  It allowed me to use the camera for entering the seed words.  And I turned it on.  It produces a fuzzy B/W image on the screen.  We will see how it workd on QR codes in the future.  But Why do THAT first?  I mean, who has a QR of their seed?  Is there a secure way to even produce this without graph paper? Lol.  But eventually being able to use it to scan QR codes should be nice.  We will have to wait and see.

Value 8/10. At ~$36 it's priced well, and is a lot of *potential* for the money.

Overall: 7/10 I am boosting this overall score because I think it feels like a good little piece of gear, and I am hopeful they actually develop out the missing features.  So I am giving them the benefit of the doubt.

If what you want is a decent BTC only H/W wallet then I would go with a ColdCard currently.  But having that plus liquid is a plus.  And hopefully the missing things come along, and they keep developing it to add more features that matter.  We will see.

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You can also drive a propane aka LPG car directly. My father has a Dacia Sandero LPG. You lose a bit of hp when running on LPG compared to gasoline on his old one, but on the new one with a turbo engine, the power is the same. Emissions are better, too. And the fuel is taxed less here.

As for electric cars, while I think it will displace gas cars without much issue (we fortunately don't all live in catastrophic weather prone areas, most people don't have survival gear etc.) my personal plan will include solar panels and battery storage, because being independent is something I value. Making one's own gasoline is another story...

At work my colleagues and I all get a company car, at my level I can't choose which one, a year ago I had a diesel car, now I have a gas car, next one will be electric. A colleague is getting his electric one in a few weeks, it's quite fancier than the gas one, has no transmission (mine is a manual trans), more hp...
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... when the hurricane arrives they'll be like the Tesla owners in Louisiana right now, electric cars haven't been market tested in hard times and are a fragile technology dependent on lots of infrastrucure and external support with many moving parts

I mean gas stations dont work without electricity either...

Well if you own a Tesla  you should have solar and a generator.

A good generator is :

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Pulsar-12-000-Watt-9-500-Watt-Electric-Start-Gas-and-Propane-Dual-Fuel-Portable-Generator-for-Jobsite-RV-Home-CARB-Compliant-PG12000B/308687064?


it is propane or gas.  Soooo propane stores for as long as 18 months.

The one above is lower cost. But it will charge a Tesla and it will run a lot of your home.

I own a lessor version as I do not have a Tesla.

... okay so costing out an electric vehicle needs to include a sizable back-up genset (>6kW) and solar power too, anything else, a huge lithium-ion? ... what if you're in an area with shitty sun coverage?

... sounds like lots of externalised .... but, but, but ... kind of costs building up there

because you don't read what I wrote.

gas sucks it does not store well.

propane is fine.

diesel as a last resort.



Now I own a gas car.

but I own a propane/gas generator.

basically the propane works after 14 months of storage with zero issues.

gas does not.


legendary
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... when the hurricane arrives they'll be like the Tesla owners in Louisiana right now, electric cars haven't been market tested in hard times and are a fragile technology dependent on lots of infrastrucure and external support with many moving parts

I mean gas stations dont work without electricity either...

Well if you own a Tesla  you should have solar and a generator.

A good generator is :

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Pulsar-12-000-Watt-9-500-Watt-Electric-Start-Gas-and-Propane-Dual-Fuel-Portable-Generator-for-Jobsite-RV-Home-CARB-Compliant-PG12000B/308687064?


it is propane or gas.  Soooo propane stores for as long as 18 months.

The one above is lower cost. But it will charge a Tesla and it will run a lot of your home.

I own a lessor version as I do not have a Tesla.

... okay so costing out an electric vehicle needs to include a sizable back-up genset (>6kW) and solar power too, anything else, a huge lithium-ion deep cycle battery? ... what if you're in an area with shitty sun coverage?

... sounds like lots of externalised .... but, but, but ... kind of costs building up there


edit: I'm with you on the gas versus diesel Smiley diesel all the way
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
... when the hurricane arrives they'll be like the Tesla owners in Louisiana right now, electric cars haven't been market tested in hard times and are a fragile technology dependent on lots of infrastrucure and external support with many moving parts

I mean gas stations dont work without electricity either...

... actually many do, they have gas/diesel genset backups, which they can run for a log time since they are a fuel depot

... imagine you are in Louisiana right now which would you rather have, a 4wd gas-guzzling pick-up with jerry cans in the garage and a full tank .. or a Tesla?

Tesla and the generator I linked along with a few 20 lb cans of propane.

gasoline sucks as it does not store well if I had my way you would see almost no gas.

diesel  or propane store a long time

gas is shit.

notice I am not anti fossil fuel I am anti gas
legendary
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Eadem mutata resurgo
... when the hurricane arrives they'll be like the Tesla owners in Louisiana right now, electric cars haven't been market tested in hard times and are a fragile technology dependent on lots of infrastrucure and external support with many moving parts

I mean gas stations dont work without electricity either...

... actually many do, they have gas/diesel genset backups, which they can run for a log time since they are a fuel depot

... imagine you are in Louisiana right now which would you rather have, a 4wd gas-guzzling pick-up with jerry cans in the garage and a full tank .. or a Tesla?
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
... when the hurricane arrives they'll be like the Tesla owners in Louisiana right now, electric cars haven't been market tested in hard times and are a fragile technology dependent on lots of infrastrucure and external support with many moving parts

I mean gas stations dont work without electricity either...

Well if you all you own a Tesla  you should have solar panels  and a generator.

A good generator is :

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Pulsar-12-000-Watt-9-500-Watt-Electric-Start-Gas-and-Propane-Dual-Fuel-Portable-Generator-for-Jobsite-RV-Home-CARB-Compliant-PG12000B/308687064?


it is propane or gas.  Soooo propane stores for as long as 18 months.

The one above is lower cost. But it will charge a Tesla and it will run a lot of your home.

I own a lessor version 5000 watt as I do not have a Tesla.
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
Paypal finally figured out when I told them to fuck off and suck my dick I meant it. Smiley

𝖶𝗁𝖺𝗍 𝗍𝗈 𝖽𝗈 𝗇𝗈𝗐?

𝖫𝗈𝗀𝗂𝗇 𝗍𝗈 𝗒𝗈𝗎𝗋 𝖯𝖺𝗒𝖯𝖺𝗅 𝖺𝖼𝖼𝗈𝗎𝗇𝗍 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝗉𝖾𝗋𝖿𝗈𝗋𝗆 𝗍𝗁𝖾 𝗋𝖾𝗊𝗎𝗂𝗋𝖾𝖽 𝗌𝗍𝖾𝗉𝗌.



Words cannot describe how much I hate paypal.

About 5 or so years ago they wanted me to supply a bunch of personal info and I told them to fuck off and they restricted my account and after I ignored them for 6 months they sent me an email saying all was good. Lol More people need to just tell them to fuck off but the sheep do what they are told.

I only used them for fleabay purchases and now I don't even bother with ebay anymore.
legendary
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Bitconnect, finally in the news. Those around in 2017 will remember that lending coin that wrecked many, so to say.



https://beincrypto.com/sec-lawsuit-bitconnect-founder-role-crypto-fraud/



I have to say …. I did love and still sometimes re-watch the Carlos Matos speech

Wasaaa wasaaa wasuuuuuuup bitconeeeeeeeeect

And just the walk …. What a comic fool that was able fooling a full room of people …



I have friends like Carlos.

Super positive... always looking for the next big thing.  Suckers to the hilt. But resilient.  In the end he will have a fulfilling happy life with or without money, but it is more likely to be without, because he does not hold money as much as he just lets it flow through his hands.

He wants to believe in whatever shiny thing has his attention now, and wants YOU to believe it too.  Not so much because you believing it will enrich HIM, but because he truly believes it will enrich you both.

Those bastards standing behind him on that stage are evil motherfuckers who I truly hope are prosecuted and stripped of the gains they got from the good, but foolish souls like Carlos...

-edit- or i dunno... maybe he was the mastermind?
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A Bitcoiner chooses. A slave obeys.
Paypal finally figured out when I told them to fuck off and suck my dick I meant it. Smiley

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Y𝅹o𝅵u𝅵r⁤ a⁠c⁠c⁤o⁠unt r⁢estric𝅶t⁤ed⁣ ID :
   
𝖸𝗈𝗎𝗋 𝖯𝖺𝗒𝖯𝖺𝗅 𝖺𝖼𝖼𝗈𝗎𝗇𝗍 𝗁𝖺𝗌 𝖻𝖾𝖾𝗇 𝗍𝖾𝗆𝗉𝗈𝗋𝖺𝗋𝗂𝗅𝗒 𝗋𝖾𝗌𝗍𝗋𝗂𝖼𝗍𝖾𝖽
𝖸𝗈𝗎 𝗐𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗋𝖾𝖼𝖾𝗇𝗍𝗅𝗒 𝖺𝗌𝗄𝖾𝖽 𝗍𝗈 𝗍𝖺𝗄𝖾 𝖺𝗇 𝖺𝖼𝗍𝗂𝗈𝗇 𝗈𝗇 𝗒𝗈𝗎𝗋 𝖺𝖼𝖼𝗈𝗎𝗇𝗍 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝗂𝗍 𝗅𝗈𝗈𝗄𝗌 𝗅𝗂𝗄𝖾 𝗐𝖾 𝖽𝗂𝖽𝗇'𝗍 𝗋𝖾𝖼𝖾𝗂𝗏𝖾 𝖺 𝗋𝖾𝗊𝗎𝖾𝗌𝗍𝖾𝖽 𝗋𝖾𝗌𝗉𝗈𝗇𝗌𝖾.
𝖶𝗁𝗒 𝗂𝗌 𝗒𝗈𝗎𝗋 𝖺𝖼𝖼𝗈𝗎𝗇𝗍 𝗋𝖾𝗌𝗍𝗋𝗂𝖼𝗍𝖾𝖽?
𝖶𝖾 𝗁𝖺𝗏𝖾 𝖿𝗈𝗎𝗇𝖽 𝗌𝗎𝗌𝗉𝗂𝖼𝗂𝗈𝗎𝗌 𝖺𝖼𝗍𝗂𝗏𝗂𝗍𝗒 𝗈𝗇 𝗍𝗁𝖾 𝖼𝗋𝖾𝖽𝗂𝗍 𝖼𝖺𝗋𝖽 𝗅𝗂𝗇𝗄𝖾𝖽 𝗍𝗈 𝗒𝗈𝗎𝗋 𝖯𝖺𝗒𝖯𝖺𝗅 𝖺𝖼𝖼𝗈𝗎𝗇𝗍. 𝖸𝗈𝗎 𝗆𝗎𝗌𝗍 𝖼𝗈𝗇𝖿𝗂𝗋𝗆 𝗒𝗈𝗎𝗋 𝗂𝖽𝖾𝗇𝗍𝗂𝗍𝗒 𝗍𝗈 𝖼𝗈𝗇𝖿𝗂𝗋𝗆 𝗍𝗁𝖺𝗍 𝗒𝗈𝗎 𝖺𝗋𝖾 𝗍𝗁𝖾 𝗈𝗐𝗇𝖾𝗋 𝗈𝖿 𝗍𝗁𝖾 𝖼𝗋𝖾𝖽𝗂𝗍 𝖼𝖺𝗋𝖽.
𝖳𝗈 𝗆𝖺𝗂𝗇𝗍𝖺𝗂𝗇 𝖺𝖼𝖼𝗈𝗎𝗇𝗍 𝗌𝖾𝖼𝗎𝗋𝗂𝗍𝗒, 𝗉𝗅𝖾𝖺𝗌𝖾 𝗉𝗋𝗈𝗏𝗂𝖽𝖾 𝖽𝗈𝖼𝗎𝗆𝖾𝗇𝗍𝗌 𝖼𝗈𝗇𝖿𝗂𝗋𝗆𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝗒𝗈𝗎𝗋 𝗂𝖽𝖾𝗇𝗍𝗂𝗍𝗒.

𝖶𝖾'𝗏𝖾 𝖺𝗅𝗌𝗈 𝗂𝗆𝗉𝗈𝗌𝖾𝖽 𝗍𝖾𝗆𝗉𝗈𝗋𝖺𝗋𝗒 𝗅𝗂𝗆𝗂𝗍𝗌 𝗈𝗇 𝖼𝖾𝗋𝗍𝖺𝗂𝗇 𝖿𝖾𝖺𝗍𝗎𝗋𝖾𝗌 𝗈𝗇 𝗒𝗈𝗎𝗋 𝖯𝖺𝗒𝖯𝖺𝗅 𝖺𝖼𝖼𝗈𝗎𝗇𝗍.
𝖠𝗍 𝗍𝗁𝗂𝗌 𝗍𝗂𝗆𝖾, 𝗒𝗈𝗎 𝗐𝗂𝗅𝗅 𝗇𝗈𝗍 𝖻𝖾 𝖺𝖻𝗅𝖾 𝗍𝗈:

    𝖱𝖾𝖼𝖾𝗂𝗏𝖾 𝗉𝖺𝗒𝗆𝖾𝗇𝗍𝗌

    𝖲𝖾𝗇𝖽 𝗉𝖺𝗒𝗆𝖾𝗇𝗍

    𝖶𝗂𝗍𝗁𝖽𝗋𝖺𝗐 𝖿𝗎𝗇𝖽𝗌

𝖶𝗁𝖺𝗍 𝗍𝗈 𝖽𝗈 𝗇𝗈𝗐?

𝖫𝗈𝗀𝗂𝗇 𝗍𝗈 𝗒𝗈𝗎𝗋 𝖯𝖺𝗒𝖯𝖺𝗅 𝖺𝖼𝖼𝗈𝗎𝗇𝗍 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝗉𝖾𝗋𝖿𝗈𝗋𝗆 𝗍𝗁𝖾 𝗋𝖾𝗊𝗎𝗂𝗋𝖾𝖽 𝗌𝗍𝖾𝗉𝗌.


Words cannot describe how much I hate paypal.
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Paypal finally figured out when I told them to fuck off and suck my dick I meant it. Smiley

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Y𝅹o𝅵u𝅵r⁤ a⁠c⁠c⁤o⁠unt r⁢estric𝅶t⁤ed⁣ ID :
   
𝖸𝗈𝗎𝗋 𝖯𝖺𝗒𝖯𝖺𝗅 𝖺𝖼𝖼𝗈𝗎𝗇𝗍 𝗁𝖺𝗌 𝖻𝖾𝖾𝗇 𝗍𝖾𝗆𝗉𝗈𝗋𝖺𝗋𝗂𝗅𝗒 𝗋𝖾𝗌𝗍𝗋𝗂𝖼𝗍𝖾𝖽
𝖸𝗈𝗎 𝗐𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗋𝖾𝖼𝖾𝗇𝗍𝗅𝗒 𝖺𝗌𝗄𝖾𝖽 𝗍𝗈 𝗍𝖺𝗄𝖾 𝖺𝗇 𝖺𝖼𝗍𝗂𝗈𝗇 𝗈𝗇 𝗒𝗈𝗎𝗋 𝖺𝖼𝖼𝗈𝗎𝗇𝗍 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝗂𝗍 𝗅𝗈𝗈𝗄𝗌 𝗅𝗂𝗄𝖾 𝗐𝖾 𝖽𝗂𝖽𝗇'𝗍 𝗋𝖾𝖼𝖾𝗂𝗏𝖾 𝖺 𝗋𝖾𝗊𝗎𝖾𝗌𝗍𝖾𝖽 𝗋𝖾𝗌𝗉𝗈𝗇𝗌𝖾.
𝖶𝗁𝗒 𝗂𝗌 𝗒𝗈𝗎𝗋 𝖺𝖼𝖼𝗈𝗎𝗇𝗍 𝗋𝖾𝗌𝗍𝗋𝗂𝖼𝗍𝖾𝖽?
𝖶𝖾 𝗁𝖺𝗏𝖾 𝖿𝗈𝗎𝗇𝖽 𝗌𝗎𝗌𝗉𝗂𝖼𝗂𝗈𝗎𝗌 𝖺𝖼𝗍𝗂𝗏𝗂𝗍𝗒 𝗈𝗇 𝗍𝗁𝖾 𝖼𝗋𝖾𝖽𝗂𝗍 𝖼𝖺𝗋𝖽 𝗅𝗂𝗇𝗄𝖾𝖽 𝗍𝗈 𝗒𝗈𝗎𝗋 𝖯𝖺𝗒𝖯𝖺𝗅 𝖺𝖼𝖼𝗈𝗎𝗇𝗍. 𝖸𝗈𝗎 𝗆𝗎𝗌𝗍 𝖼𝗈𝗇𝖿𝗂𝗋𝗆 𝗒𝗈𝗎𝗋 𝗂𝖽𝖾𝗇𝗍𝗂𝗍𝗒 𝗍𝗈 𝖼𝗈𝗇𝖿𝗂𝗋𝗆 𝗍𝗁𝖺𝗍 𝗒𝗈𝗎 𝖺𝗋𝖾 𝗍𝗁𝖾 𝗈𝗐𝗇𝖾𝗋 𝗈𝖿 𝗍𝗁𝖾 𝖼𝗋𝖾𝖽𝗂𝗍 𝖼𝖺𝗋𝖽.
𝖳𝗈 𝗆𝖺𝗂𝗇𝗍𝖺𝗂𝗇 𝖺𝖼𝖼𝗈𝗎𝗇𝗍 𝗌𝖾𝖼𝗎𝗋𝗂𝗍𝗒, 𝗉𝗅𝖾𝖺𝗌𝖾 𝗉𝗋𝗈𝗏𝗂𝖽𝖾 𝖽𝗈𝖼𝗎𝗆𝖾𝗇𝗍𝗌 𝖼𝗈𝗇𝖿𝗂𝗋𝗆𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝗒𝗈𝗎𝗋 𝗂𝖽𝖾𝗇𝗍𝗂𝗍𝗒.

𝖶𝖾'𝗏𝖾 𝖺𝗅𝗌𝗈 𝗂𝗆𝗉𝗈𝗌𝖾𝖽 𝗍𝖾𝗆𝗉𝗈𝗋𝖺𝗋𝗒 𝗅𝗂𝗆𝗂𝗍𝗌 𝗈𝗇 𝖼𝖾𝗋𝗍𝖺𝗂𝗇 𝖿𝖾𝖺𝗍𝗎𝗋𝖾𝗌 𝗈𝗇 𝗒𝗈𝗎𝗋 𝖯𝖺𝗒𝖯𝖺𝗅 𝖺𝖼𝖼𝗈𝗎𝗇𝗍.
𝖠𝗍 𝗍𝗁𝗂𝗌 𝗍𝗂𝗆𝖾, 𝗒𝗈𝗎 𝗐𝗂𝗅𝗅 𝗇𝗈𝗍 𝖻𝖾 𝖺𝖻𝗅𝖾 𝗍𝗈:

    𝖱𝖾𝖼𝖾𝗂𝗏𝖾 𝗉𝖺𝗒𝗆𝖾𝗇𝗍𝗌

    𝖲𝖾𝗇𝖽 𝗉𝖺𝗒𝗆𝖾𝗇𝗍

    𝖶𝗂𝗍𝗁𝖽𝗋𝖺𝗐 𝖿𝗎𝗇𝖽𝗌

𝖶𝗁𝖺𝗍 𝗍𝗈 𝖽𝗈 𝗇𝗈𝗐?

𝖫𝗈𝗀𝗂𝗇 𝗍𝗈 𝗒𝗈𝗎𝗋 𝖯𝖺𝗒𝖯𝖺𝗅 𝖺𝖼𝖼𝗈𝗎𝗇𝗍 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝗉𝖾𝗋𝖿𝗈𝗋𝗆 𝗍𝗁𝖾 𝗋𝖾𝗊𝗎𝗂𝗋𝖾𝖽 𝗌𝗍𝖾𝗉𝗌.
legendary
Activity: 2380
Merit: 1823
1CBuddyxy4FerT3hzMmi1Jz48ESzRw1ZzZ
legendary
Activity: 2716
Merit: 13505
BTC + Crossfit, living life.
Meanwhile back on track for 50k


Meanwhile as well… watching Independence Day again pre HODLsleep  Cool
legendary
Activity: 2716
Merit: 13505
BTC + Crossfit, living life.


Pity this is a true story for the fools with the get rich quick ideas and sell with massive losses bc of fear and not understanding the value of the superior asset
legendary
Activity: 2254
Merit: 2003
A Bitcoiner chooses. A slave obeys.
regulators are coming down hard on centralised exchanges with KYC/AML demands. Dex swaps cost an arm and a leg for every swap.... As I see it, either I have to pay enormous amounts of coin for trading OR I don't get to keep my data out of the hands of these "safe exchanges" that get hacked every other week and/or sell my info?

Is that about right? Anyone got advice for me?

Yes.  I have advices.

Sell everything (your whole stash of 0.32761 BTC) and get out of this racket while you still can.

Oh wow, you used to say I only had 0.032761 BTC. You multiplied it by 10. Does this mean you like me now? Kiss

regulators are coming down hard on centralised exchanges with KYC/AML demands. Dex swaps cost an arm and a leg for every swap.... As I see it, either I have to pay enormous amounts of coin for trading OR I don't get to keep my data out of the hands of these "safe exchanges" that get hacked every other week and/or sell my info?

Is that about right? Anyone got advice for me?

Yeah. Avoid trading.

Keep your Bitcoin safely offline in cold storage.

Only if you are the one they call goldkingcoiner…. Yeah then 80X leverage trading is OK.

I have a hodl stash and a gambling stash. Let me enjoy my degeneracy. Grin
legendary
Activity: 2716
Merit: 13505
BTC + Crossfit, living life.
Bitconnect, finally in the news. Those around in 2017 will remember that lending coin that wrecked many, so to say.



https://beincrypto.com/sec-lawsuit-bitconnect-founder-role-crypto-fraud/



I have to say …. I did love and still sometimes re-watch the Carlos Matos speech

Wasaaa wasaaa wasuuuuuuup bitconeeeeeeeeect

And just the walk …. What a comic fool that was able fooling a full room of people …

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