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 Why isn't the Chinese vaccine approved for use in the US or the EU when the WHO has approved it?  Why haven't we entertained the Russian version of the vaccine which was the first-to-market and apparently very effective?  Why is the Russian vaccine still not approved for use in the EU, the USA or even by the WHO?  Is this not a global crisis?!  Are we actually following science or are we following politics here?  Even though my own government has decided not to go with the first available vaccine, they tell me that "The best vaccine to take is the one in your arm".  They also didn't follow the recommended dosage - they got 6 doses from each vial rather than the recommended 5 doses, then rather than waiting just 3 weeks between doses, they extended it to 16 weeks before the second shot to get more first doses into people until later when more vaccines arrived, they hastened the schedule but oh wait!  The safe and effective AstraZeneca vaccine is causing blood clotting issues and deaths!  They stopped using it altogether and then since the new shipments of the only two possibilities for approved vaccines left didn't match the number of first shots, they said we could get whichever vaccine we wanted for our second dose. 


to be approved in US or EU, a drug or therapeutic agent has to apply to FDA or EMEA respectively, deposited by the firm or institution ready to commercialize it.
these agencies can separately approve or not, a full dossier after study.

Have the full dossiers of these vaccines been deposited (sinopharm pekin, sinopharm wuhan, sinovac, etc) ? by whom ?
if yes, have they been refused ?
I don't know the response, do you ?

more generally, the results of these vaccines is not well known, or not fully published.
this is a subject of general interest, elements of response will be welcomed.

What are you talking about?  These are not normal times.  My house is on fire and you've got an available extinguisher, can I please use it? 
Operation Warp Speed in the USA was a public-private partnership and vaccine producers were sought by the government.  It was funded with USD$10 billion the bulk of which was in the form of purchase contracts based on a lick and a promise of future vaccines!  The EU ,which cobbled together $8 billion to fund covid19 vaccine research (even Madonna contributed to it!), has already said it would not sign contracts for a Russian vaccine - you know damn well they did that for every western pharmaceutical company BEFORE any dossiers were submitted.  India approved the Covaxin for use before the trials had even been completed.  They funded and facilitated the production of these vaccines at every step along the way and you ask me if "the full dossiers of these vaccines have been deposited"?


OK there are politics.
however your question was:
Why isn't the Chinese vaccine approved for use in the US or the EU when the WHO has approved it?

so i may confirm that in this case also the normal processus has been followed for use.
this does not exclude political supplemental schemes or decisions on a national basis.
laws are made to be bypassed by the persons who determine them.
FDA and EMEA are scientific institutions.
sorry..
 
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I know whoever created this chart means well, but honestly the idea of giving up the last shred of privacy in exchange for a 6 inch shiny screen warming your gonads is not something that Bitcoin should follow. It should not go past Nokia 3210.

What is this piece of machinery you talk about….

My cellphone carrier started with the 8210 nokia (little red one)  Cool

ha! I remember that one, lol.
not sure if it was bigger than Zoolander's:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vurEe3-xgNw

maybe just a bit.
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BTC + Crossfit, living life.


I know whoever created this chart means well, but honestly the idea of giving up the last shred of privacy in exchange for a 6 inch shiny screen warming your gonads is not something that Bitcoin should follow. It should not go past Nokia 3210.

What is this piece of machinery you talk about….

My cellphone carrier started with the 8210 nokia (little red one)  Cool
legendary
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https://bpip.org


I know whoever created this chart means well, but honestly the idea of giving up the last shred of privacy in exchange for a 6 inch shiny screen warming your gonads is not something that Bitcoin should follow. It should not go past Nokia 3210.
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 Why isn't the Chinese vaccine approved for use in the US or the EU when the WHO has approved it?  Why haven't we entertained the Russian version of the vaccine which was the first-to-market and apparently very effective?  Why is the Russian vaccine still not approved for use in the EU, the USA or even by the WHO?  Is this not a global crisis?!  Are we actually following science or are we following politics here?  Even though my own government has decided not to go with the first available vaccine, they tell me that "The best vaccine to take is the one in your arm".  They also didn't follow the recommended dosage - they got 6 doses from each vial rather than the recommended 5 doses, then rather than waiting just 3 weeks between doses, they extended it to 16 weeks before the second shot to get more first doses into people until later when more vaccines arrived, they hastened the schedule but oh wait!  The safe and effective AstraZeneca vaccine is causing blood clotting issues and deaths!  They stopped using it altogether and then since the new shipments of the only two possibilities for approved vaccines left didn't match the number of first shots, they said we could get whichever vaccine we wanted for our second dose. 


to be approved in US or EU, a drug or therapeutic agent has to apply to FDA or EMEA respectively, deposited by the firm or institution ready to commercialize it.
these agencies can separately approve or not, a full dossier after study.

Have the full dossiers of these vaccines been deposited (sinopharm pekin, sinopharm wuhan, sinovac, etc) ? by whom ?
if yes, have they been refused ?
I don't know the response, do you ?

more generally, the results of these vaccines is not well known, or not fully published.
this is a subject of general interest, elements of response will be welcomed.

 What are you talking about?  These are not normal times.  My house is on fire and you've got an available extinguisher, can I please use it? 
Operation Warp Speed in the USA was a public-private partnership and vaccine producers were sought by the government.  It was funded with USD$10 billion the bulk of which was in the form of purchase contracts based on a lick and a promise of future vaccines!  The EU ,which cobbled together $8 billion to fund covid19 vaccine research (even Madonna contributed to it!), has already said it would not sign contracts for a Russian vaccine - you know damn well they did that for every western pharmaceutical company BEFORE any dossiers were submitted.  India approved the Covaxin for use before the trials had even been completed.  They funded and facilitated the production of these vaccines at every step along the way and you ask me if "the full dossiers of these vaccines have been deposited"?
legendary
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BTC + Crossfit, living life.


Just to put things in perspective  Grin Cheesy Cool

Initiate HODLsleep
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*Brute force will solve any Bitcoin problem*
50K BTC STREET PRICE WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
legendary
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and buddy is starting his lift towards 45k


It won't stay over $45k for 10 days.  Ever.  See Philip's nearby thread for my explanation.
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'The right to privacy matters'
and buddy is starting his lift towards 45k
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'The right to privacy matters'


Soon ya will witness the Picture. And the loss will be in Trillions Smiley

Edit:

Sorry Arrie, i broke the Order of being Quiet  Grin

Another Edit...

Arrie is the type of a Guy id take orders from so respect the lad  Grin

Last I looked BTC is not worth trillions.

In fact the entire crypto market is worth :

"The global crypto market cap is $1.64T, a 1.87% increase over the last day.Read more"  a quote from coinmarket cap. ( I apoligize JJG but need to use all coins to make this point)

So I guess  Stocks ,precious metals,  real estate and or cash are getting crushed soon. All losing trillions against BTC value.

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Precision Beats Power and Timing Beats Speed.


Soon ya will witness the Picture. And the loss will be in Trillions Smiley

Edit:

Sorry Arrie, i broke the Order of being Quiet  Grin

Another Edit...

Arrie is the type of a Guy id take orders from so respect the lad  Grin
legendary
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Is this ONLY pertaining to allowing bitcoin or is it a broader policy allowing shitcoins, too?

Maybe a link would be helpful to attempt to suss out some details, if there are some details available.

Are there even any pure Bitcoin exchanges? It would seem that this would include other coins by default.
legendary
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This is the perfect example of what I like to call the "Invisible Dragon" argument.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot


Same thing here: The virus will kill people in a month by the millions. Then a year. Then 10 years. Then "infertility". Always things that can't be tested, can't be proven, and when they do fail you just slip in another argument.

Freudian slip?
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...........................

 Why isn't the Chinese vaccine approved for use in the US or the EU when the WHO has approved it?  Why haven't we entertained the Russian version of the vaccine which was the first-to-market and apparently very effective?  Why is the Russian vaccine still not approved for use in the EU, the USA or even by the WHO?  Is this not a global crisis?!  Are we actually following science or are we following politics here?  Even though my own government has decided not to go with the first available vaccine, they tell me that "The best vaccine to take is the one in your arm".  They also didn't follow the recommended dosage - they got 6 doses from each vial rather than the recommended 5 doses, then rather than waiting just 3 weeks between doses, they extended it to 16 weeks before the second shot to get more first doses into people until later when more vaccines arrived, they hastened the schedule but oh wait!  The safe and effective AstraZeneca vaccine is causing blood clotting issues and deaths!  They stopped using it altogether and then since the new shipments of the only two possibilities for approved vaccines left didn't match the number of first shots, they said we could get whichever vaccine we wanted for our second dose. 


to be approved in US or EU, a drug or therapeutic agent has to apply to FDA or EMEA respectively, deposited by the firm or institution ready to commercialize it.
these agencies can separately approve or not, a full dossier after study.

Have the full dossiers of these vaccines been deposited (sinopharm pekin, sinopharm wuhan, sinovac, etc) ? by whom ?
if yes, have they been refused ?
I don't know the response, do you ?

more generally, the results of these vaccines is not well known, or not fully published.
this is a subject of general interest, elements of response will be welcomed.
legendary
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noon charts at 1:37pm

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legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
Now that we've proven Godwin's law....in real news, bitcoin's looking as bullish as a bovine with two dicks.

Yeah, I’m not vaccinated, I have huge doubts about the severity of covid & what the real agenda might be but FFS, can we leave that shit out of the WO.

So about bitcoin, $45,000 next week, maybe?

I'll wait a few more hours if the latest pump doesn't form another bart, but if not, i guess YES  Smiley

too late I opened this thread below:


Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above $40K for 10 consecutive days ever again!


Note in response to proudhon's

threads for 35k and 30k

I entered a preemptive strike.  I did a thread for 40k


to quote him

"This is too easy"





Note this is an homage to his persistent attacks on BTC price.



My real belief is mine on! Which is what I do.
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