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Still figuring out this one?But what happens if John tells Sarah that he doesn't have any physical coins and not willing to make any transaction with his bitcoin and just want to hold it for the time being? Grin
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Okay, just a speculation in a speculation topic.

Michael Saylor is the one who is causing all the bitcoin manipulation's like Wyckoff exeuction.

Do you agree?


Oh gawd.

More mono-causal explanations.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Simplifying a complex thing sure feels much MOAR better because it is difficult to think about more than one thing at a time, amiNOTrite?

Okay, just a speculation in a speculation topic.

Michael Saylor is the one who is causing all the bitcoin manipulation's like Wyckoff exeuction.

Do you agree?


I don't like Saylor too much.. He's gambling a lot and if it doesn't go exactly as he planned it could backfire big time on bitcoin as a whole

Oh gawd...

Saylor is buying all the bitcoins.. so I don't like him.. .

Whatever....  Roll Eyes

By the way, making a speculative bet surely is gambling.. but I doubt that he is gambling in a way that is has any meaningful and significant (emergency-like) short-term consequences (or even negative consequences on the bitcoin space) like you seem to be implying, Hhampuz, because a lot of his debt comes due between 4.5 years and 7 years from now, and he has various back-up strategies and he also has various plans in the event that matters don't play out in the expected direction... so I doubt that the consequences of "not turning out" are as dire as you are making them out to be, Hhampuz... and the use of the term "exactly" in your description of the situation comes off as an exaggeration as well.. there is not "exactness" in what Saylor is betting upon in order for his "bet" to be successful (or at least not a failure). 

There is overall trend in bitcoin that could go big for Saylor or could go medium or could go flat and any of those kinds of medium to flat scenarios would not necessarily be losing bets for him or his company... so the black and white way of your framing the matter seems to come out of some sense of failure/refusal to understand what Saylor is betting and what results he might need (or prefer) rather than really considering various likely substantive and material ramifications of the "Saylor play" - whether you are referring to negative consequences upon him or negative consequences upon the bitcoin space.

Another point related to potential negative consequences is that I surely consider the Saylor play to be quite an amazing thing be doing and the public way that he has been doing it.. hahahaha.  Sure there is some seeming gambling (because it uses quite a bit of leveraging and investing beyond reasonable and prudent means for various individuals - and maybe even a lot of institutions could NOT make such a play - not saying that for sure it is imprudent or unreasonable for MSTR/Saylor to make such a play) involved but it is a very public and "in your face" kind of a play, and surely is a thing to really put bitcoin into the minds of a lot of institutional investors and governments, and whether they act on the side of bitcoin as a result of such "in your face" knowledge or if they decide to act against bitcoin (or stay neutral.. that is a possibility.. that causes them to get left behind while having the knowledge), the Saylor play is an "in your face" play, for whatever that is worth and should cause the astute persons/institutions/governments to think and consider the bitcoin matter - or at least to wake the fuck up.. things are happening (it's happening) and get on the boat or not, is your choice.
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Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!
So just remember 1 btc = 1 btc

stack till you have a coin then hodl
that wallet

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/19oNXtgrEX9Lt6c7w3XXAxAWR2T7Ff7CiC

P2PKH address?  Keep that pubkey safe to guard against those pesky quantum computers... Wink
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EU thinking of banning PoW


What a bunch of retards.

EU thinking of banning PoW


Idiots, it's like asking for a ban on vaccines when a pandemic is taking off.

Luckily I don't think there is enough time for that proposal to become law before the Euro as a currency will reach hyperinflation, by that time the only thing saving the train wreck economy is Bitcoin.

If they are smart enough (or have any intelligence left) to recognize their savior when it may well be staring them in the face..  Sure some people will, but many folks seem to already be going quite well down the path of dumb and foggy thinkenings.

EU thinking of banning PoW


Have you ever thought about why there are more and more reports and tweets against Bitcoin?  Wink

No.  Haven't thought about it.. spent all this time wandering the forum and did not think about nuttin.  Tell us.

Why are there more and more reports/tweets against our savior, king daddy?

EU thinking of banning PoW

The actual wording proposes a ban on POW, not a ban on fossil fuel energy use by POW cryptos.

Banning fossil fuel use by POW mining would make more sense than banning POW mining.
Has anyone pointed that out to them?

In fact, allowing POW use of green, sustainable energy would increase demand for green, sustainable energy and provide great benefits to the environment by driving green energy use. Subsidize POW green energy use, pass laws that encourage it.  If you ban POW, you're shooting yourself in the foot.

So go ahead, Europe, ban fossil fuel POW.  And encourage POW green energy use.

Someone needs to wake these people up.  How could they be so oblivious?

The reality of the matter, is there is no need to ban shit.  So they can ban POW mining and then wait to see if other jurisdictions follow or not.  Maybe bitcoin mining will be either underground or just located in less hostile jurisdictions.  Do you think all jurisdictions are so stupid as to ban something so powerful as POW mining... They understand not, and even their populations within those jurisdictions likely know better and know that their governments are just scared fucks and acting on the side of banks and other threatened status quo institutions rather than really acting on the will of the people.  Ban is likely going to be temporary in any jurisdiction who goes down that path and suffers from the will of the people thinking otherwise.

Remove Chartbuddy, bring back V8
 Roll Eyes
miss the guy
does anyone know anything about him? if you know and don't want to share please DM

For all intents and purposes, he's a gonner.  RIP V8 and welcome back CB.  Get a grip... Bots are taking over this place.
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They made me this way..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niVEeJVLJyo

Nikola Tesla Meets the Doctor | Nikola Tesla's Night of Terror | Doctor Who

I love this Smiley
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'The right to privacy matters'
So just remember 1 btc = 1 btc

stack till you have a coin then hodl
that wallet

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/19oNXtgrEX9Lt6c7w3XXAxAWR2T7Ff7CiC
legendary
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BTC + Crossfit, living life.
Okay, just a speculation in a speculation topic.

Michael Saylor is the one who is causing all the bitcoin manipulation's like Wyckoff exeuction.

Do you agree?


It's clearly Evil Elon, while Saylor is his submissive toy puppet.
Change my mind.

Sorry guys it’s me

LoL, pity I don’t have such powers
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EU thinking of banning PoW





Only a politician can come up with a idea of banning work, or has to prove some work has been done.
Proof of work is nightmare of a politician.


Can someone point to work been done. Delivering remarks, viewing fireworks display, visiting orchards market, signing some papers
https://factba.se/biden/calendar/
legendary
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The Concierge of Crypto
Okay, just a speculation in a speculation topic.

Michael Saylor is the one who is causing all the bitcoin manipulation's like Wyckoff exeuction.

Do you agree?


I don't like Saylor too much.. He's gambling a lot and if it doesn't go exactly as he planned it could backfire big time on bitcoin as a whole

I think Saylor would seem a bit over-eager or something, but he's not wrong. He just happens to be more vocal about it than most other people and he has a platform to advance his opinions.

For a billionaire and a businessman, I think he has some fiat/cash as reserves as well, at least more than enough to continue living in the fiat world. His bitcoin holdings are in multi-sig cold storage, as well as the company's (which he probably has most of the keys too.) I'm almost sure he has more than enough fiat to live on for a good number of years and his bitcoin is just extra gravy that he will tap into in the next decade.

Also, he's mentioned he doesn't need to sell any, and will probably have it as forever collateral for a forever loan should he need more cash.

It's going up forever Laura.

There's another line of thought that goes along thinking of seven generations in the future ... He's probably doing that all by himself for his own family.
legendary
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Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!
EU thinking of banning PoW




The actual wording proposes a ban on POW, not a ban on fossil fuel energy use by POW cryptos.

Banning fossil fuel use by POW mining would make more sense than banning POW mining.
Has anyone pointed that out to them?

In fact, allowing POW use of green, sustainable energy would increase demand for green, sustainable energy and provide great benefits to the environment by driving green energy use. Subsidize POW green energy use, pass laws that encourage it.  If you ban POW, you're shooting yourself in the foot.

So go ahead, Europe, ban fossil fuel POW.  And encourage POW green energy use.

Someone needs to wake these people up.  How could they be so oblivious?

They are not oblivious at all.  They want control.  Bitcoin threatens that more than anything.  They are using a tried and true narrative to try to kill it.  You can see that it does not make any sense, but you assume they care about that part.  They do not.  Only the useful idiots will care about that.  This is unfortunate because there are a LOT of them.

They are currently using anything they can control half the population with as a wedge and a way to control the masses.  Environment, race, religion, politics, and so on.

The best we can possibly do is to just tell the truth.

Bitcoin energy use will revolutionize renewable energy, and support the creation of new energy sources in places that would not have had them without bitcoin providing a base use with value.  Bitcoin is going to make the earth greener faster than just about any technology we have ever seen before.

And THAT is just a side effect of the real freedom it brings.

This is inevitable... There are two sides lining up.

The old guard who wants to control the people of earth like farm animals and live off the prosperity the masses create.

And the proponents of freedom.

It is beginning to be quite obvious.  What is China doing?  If the EU wants to be more like China, then i am sorry to all of you friends who live there and will have to fight that nonsense.  Same with my country the USA.  We are barrelling towards that same point.

Bitcoin is more important than even we have understood.  It is AMAZING to watch this unfold.

Salute.

legendary
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So if any of your friends, family members, or colleagues favor X/Y/Z shitcoin du jour over Bitcoin, just point them to this thread:

https://old.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/og5u6m/its_official_nano_is_no_longer_among_the_top_100/

Let them read how some supposed "superior" tech shitcoin can get some hype, but then incredulously fall down to nothing. Lol.

I'm sure they'll say "But bbut no, my coin won't will do that." Mmhmm. Sure it won't.


What one must do first is get Bitcoin. That in itself is already a calculated and conservative gamble with very good odds, as long as you HODL for 4 years minimum.
Keep stacking sats.

Then, if you want to gamble on some shitcoins, look for really low value ones and put in an amount that you can lose and not worry about, relative to your finances. Maybe something like $100 or whatever is "coffee money" to you.

Then don't ever talk about it. If it loses, you expect that. If it gains, cash out later.

But always remember, shitcoins are shitcoins and their expected value is close to zero or should be. It's a gamble, and the house always wins, and you are never the house.
legendary
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Meh.
Okay, just a speculation in a speculation topic.

Michael Saylor is the one who is causing all the bitcoin manipulation's like Wyckoff exeuction.

Do you agree?


I don't like Saylor too much.. He's gambling a lot and if it doesn't go exactly as he planned it could backfire big time on bitcoin as a whole
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Man who stares at charts (and stars, too...)
Okay, just a speculation in a speculation topic.

Michael Saylor is the one who is causing all the bitcoin manipulation's like Wyckoff exeuction.

Do you agree?


It's clearly Evil Elon, while Saylor is his submissive toy puppet.
Change my mind.
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