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 Sure.  The data in VAERS is downplayed.  I supposed there must be another database maintained by the investigators after the VAERS reports are investigated but I haven't found it yet.
By the same token, just because a person has covid when they die, doesn't mean they died of covid.  It's portrayed in quite the opposite manner though; it IS a covid related death even though they may have died due to taking a shower.   


 Okay, I realize people are dying with covid but excess deaths on a 5 year average which doesn't take into account shifting age demographics or increasing population doesn't show us anything that would help to answer the question I posed.  We know that around 600,000 people in the US have died while either confirmed positive with covid or considered a presumptive covid case so far - I am not questioning that.  I'm not denying that covid is real or bad.  My question was, how many lost years of life does that represent as compared to lost years of life due to the negative vaccine side effects on the entire population of earth + booster shots for the rest of our lives.  After all, we're targeting 100% vaccination while only about 10% of the US population has tested positive for covid-19 and the mRNA technology is new and still experimental.

Seems better to figure out ways to live on earth, but whatever, several of you guys believing in better possibilities outside of earth should leave first so we can purge our lil selfies (as a species) of some of the fantasies.

 


Richie is not really done with Bcash or those dumbass BIGblocker talking points, but he seems to kind of be coming around.. he's probably never going to completely normal, but who is?  especially in these here parts (didn't we call it "bat country" at some point?).

 

Explanation

https://twitter.com/naiiveclub/status/1412762518213185536?s=21

 

As Peppa Pig would say "it's impossible."

Yes.. if you post a separate thread then link it here, or if you want to discuss your strategy in this thread, then that might be helpful too, even though sometimes some threads of conversation will get lost in this thread, so sometimes it is better to just create a separate thread if you want to keep the conversation going based on your own framing of the topic.


Two are true and one is a lie.


 


guess which?


It would be nice if some benevolent folks would attack those various shitcoins, just to show them for the real pieces of shit that they are... might as well throw that ethereum bullshit into the attack too.. but since ethereum is an even more centralized piece of shit, they might have figured out ways that attacks upon it can be covered up.. with their dumb ass smoke and mirrors and acting as if actually functions in any kind of meaningful way that benefits anyone in the real world beyond scamsters and swindlers.. who speak a language called gobbledy-gook buzz buzz.


Do you believe in the 10x price increase that we have seen since 2017?

I admit that a "wall of money" is a bit of strong language, but the fact of the matter is bitcoin is not likely to be continuing its path UPpity, and that is the main framework to keep in mind, so it really does not matter if we recognize any kind of actual "wall of money" that we can see.. the reality is that "it's happening," and it has been happening for 10 years, and probably even "happening" in way greater degrees than a large number of longer term BTC HODLers could have actually expected to have been playing out.

Yeah, sure some older time BTC HODLers are complaining that BTC is not yet at $100k or whatever, and that we had a 56% price correction at a time that "it was not supposed to happen" and blah blah blah.. but the way that this thing is playing out means that each of us, whether OG's are not better get a fucking grip because it is happening, even if it might not look like we had hoped for or thought it would be in our heads - and this is what the greatest wealth transfer in human kind actually looks like, while in the midst of it.

As for you biodom, the party poop, sure you can speak some of your anticipations of long term UPpity, but it seems that on an ongoing basis you are whining that the BTC price is too high and overly in need of a price correction, that may or may not play out.  Sure, sometimes your doom and gloom wishenings (or whinnenings) might end up playing out, but the reality remains that you likely expected us to still be at $10k or sub $10k, instead of where we are at... so there you have it, ongoingly proclaiming that we are in a bull market merely because we had a 56% price correction comes off as unnecessary and ongoing doom and gloom - and hopefully, not too many innocent peeps are injured by your ongoing whinings.. by either failing to sufficiently pee pare their lil selfies for UPpity or waiting for DOWNities that may well not happen.

I am so inpatient to get one for Nano 

Dafuq?



PanzerGlass™ Screen Protection for Trezor Model T

I don't even have a screen protector on my phone!

Explanation

Except for the part where you infect others.

The trouble is, loudest antivaxers tend to be loudest antimaskers and generally anti-everything that could stop the pandemic. If you just picked a lane and decided whether you want to be part of the society or sit holed up at home licking your hands instead of washing them after you poop, I would fully support your choice.

The issue with you not taking the vaccine while you seemingly are able to is.. Some people CAN'T take it due to medical reason and you being a complete asshat puts those people in danger.

If you acknowledge this part, you're still on the safe side. It means that whenever you see the signs (for example rise of infection rate in your country) you will add additional protection.
Many didn't take the vaccine and still do like you said and they're still 98% safe, just because the number of infections has fallen. You are better protected than them.


After Bitcoin rises enough, nobody will care if we have tails or not under out suits.
And unfortunately, those scared that they'll grow tails, ... may die before our expiration period of 6 months. You know: "winter is coming". Within the 6 months.

Same can be said about covid. İf I dont want to take that vaccine then I dont want it. İt should be my choice. Not the peoples choice who had the vaccine. Why they even care? They are "safe" anyway. They looking for any way to blame none vaccinated for anything that happens. It's discusting whats going on in the world just for control and profts. And the worst is, people with vaccine support this crime against us without vaccine. İt's 1933 Germany but world wide. We the none vacced are the Jews and propaganda media blaming all on us while folks support the propaganda. Same method just 88 years later. I am sure the camps will come sooner or latet for those who will not accept this stuff in their bodies. And the 90% will hunt us.

I foresaw what's currently going on 1 week after the "pandemic" started. It was all very unnatural and massive propaganda from the beginning on. It's the same method they used after 9/11. Fear and panic. On every corner a muslim is waiting to kill you.

@xhomerx10:

I guess it's a matter of probabilities. I have friends and colleagues who went through hell (and not quite back yet) due to COVID-19, having to use respirators at home for long periods of time, possibly forever, and one even cannot walk without an aid (a metal structure that old people use to walk, I don't know the word in English), but this guy is 45 years old! IMHO, the risk of getting COVID-19 and ending up in this situation or worse by not getting the vaccine is far greater than the risk of the vaccine itself harming you in some way. How do I know? I don't! It's just my guess based on what I see, hear, read, and common sense.

That was the point of my lottery example. We tend to expect a drug or vaccine to be 100% effective. Even a tiny percentage of a side-effect can ruin its reputation. Mass media love drama, and they will put every single side-effect caused by the vaccines on their front page, which can be very misleading to the passive news consumer.

Not getting vaccinated seems like choosing to go to battle without a shield. BTW, Homer, have you had the vaccine yet? And your family? Just asking out of curiosity, after all, no one knows anyone here, no harm in disclosing it. It's fine if you don't want to say, of course.


@NeuroticFish:

Yeah, I know what you mean. You know, after getting the second dose and completing the vaccination, I feel that I'm less careful about protecting myself. Not wearing a mask outside, staying close to people not wearing masks for a long time, etc. The vaccine seems to be making us lower our natural defenses, and this could be bad if the vaccines are actually less effective than they claim to be.

Now, what's done is done, our DNA has changed, prepare to grow tails in a few months and join the new-world reptilian post-human era.


@suchmoon:

Well said!

I'm sure a lot of people die within 24 hours of taking a shower but that doesn't mean showers are deadly. Here is what VAERS site itself says about the data:


There is no need to speculate. Excess deaths - the number of deaths compared to prior years - tells the story.

https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

Without getting into the math too much there are a couple of reasons I believe time travel is nothing but a pipe dream. Imagine two people standing on either side of a doorway wanting to travel through time. Alice looks through the doorway and see's Bob staring back a her. She wants to step from her present into her past by going through the doorway into Bob's present. So now we have two distinct problems, one is figuring out the exact temporal distance between Alice and Bob but you also need to calculate the exact spatial distance as well. For Alice to just step through the doorway and be standing next to Bob if they are in the same house is a huge problem. You would need to know the exact spatial relationship between Alice, Bob and the doorway. This would be a incredibly complex problem for the world's best supercomputers today...even though Bob and Alice are only a few feet and a few seconds apart in the above scenario. Imagine trying to bridge a spatial relationship gap of centuries and thousands of miles. The Earth is orbiting the Sun at 67,000mph, the Sun orbits our Milkyway at 500,000mph. Everything is moving 1,367,016.623mph in relation to the CMB.
My point being is I dont think traveling through time is a easy problem to crack given the computational resources required to establish where you are and where you would like to go. I did like the swimming pool part in that movie, one of the more realistic scenes imo.    

Explanation

Yeah, I was the one wearing the P100 respirators and I'm not really wearing a mask right now. Might pack the respirator on my next trip to FL, those Republican states are quickly becoming hotbeds of disease and infection. But other than that living near sane people helps a lot.

That's exactly why I ve got the vaccine. And for traveling/holidays. Vaccinated people should have way less chance to spread the vaccine (5x less?), less chance to get infected and even if they get infected, the symptoms should be mild. With your colleagues also rapid-tested (overkill imho), you should be fine.

You seem to be worrying even more than me; and I've got the second shot also less than 2 weeks ago  .

 Sorry, it was a sneaky way to get a different discussion going.  The people dying in 6 months will be exactly as the ones I've shown because we vaccinated the most elderly first.  It's not the same as a lottery win to die at age 80+ in fact, it's pretty much the opposite.  Those two deaths above are not noise nor are they isolated cases. They were common age-related deaths which happen every day, everywhere and let's assume they had nothing at all to do with the vaccine.  Had they not gotten the vaccine, they might have contracted covid and died sooner but their deaths would have occurred, at most, 6 months earlier.  Vaccinated people are still getting covid and dying (still mostly elderly) while some people are dying from the vaccine at a very young age.  If we had listened to the vaccine companies when the first young people began to die from vaccine-related causes, there would most certainly have been more premature deaths due to the vaccines.  Some countries were quicker to act than others on banning certain vaccines or age-restricting their use.  We won't know until the dust settles which deaths were more unacceptable.  Will the number of months of life saved using the vaccine be greater than the number of years of life lost by the same vaccine?  Since they're already talking about annual booster shots, this might be something we need to consider.  Maybe we'll never do the math because it could only ever be speculation on either side of the equation.

 Mass media isn't screaming about the 1000 deaths!!  If they were, we would all know that it's more than 1000. (VAERS reports say 5700 deaths post vaccine in the USA alone) So no, they're fully onboard with the current vaccination program and they were instrumental at reporting the number of daily deaths "due to covid" without giving context.  However, those 1000 vaccine deaths (let's call that an accurate number) at an average age of 30 which has shaved an average of 50 years off of each life, equates to 600,000 lost months of life (worth screaming about I would say) which is the 6 month life extension granted to 100,000 elderly people who received the vaccine... we hope.  Of course we don't know if they would have lived longer than that 6 months had they not received the vaccine (Hank Aaron age 86 lasted only a few days post-vaccine but died of "natural causes" did he even need the vaccine?!  Was it really beneficial?) and there doesn't really seem to be a great interest in finding that out anyway.  I know, I know... long covid, right?  Well, what about long vaccine?  Does it only cause very premature death or a sore arm?  I find it hard to believe there aren't many other levels of debilitation in between those extremes.  We are slowly finding out that there other effects but each one is called "rare" and each one affecting a younger audience as they move their vaccine program toward our children and soon our babies.  It's fine to call 5 to 30 out of 1,000,000 rare but if you have multiple "rare" effects, at what point will we decide that the negative effects from the vaccine are not rare?  When we start getting annual boosters then it becomes 2X (rare+rare+rare+rare) and 3X (rare+rare+rare+rare+rare)... (no. of years you live)X((rare+rare+rare+rare+rare+rare+(any other newly discovered debilitating effect)).  They've already decided based on short term limited testing that the vaccines are safe and effective so until other problems present themselves, it's full speed ahead with the vaccine program.   New 'rare' potentially deadly side effects are only studied as they arise and only after it becomes painfully obvious that they are attributable to the vaccine and you can be guaranteed push-back from the vaccine companies who will initially claim "it's no more common with the vaccine than it is in the general population" until some German scientist shows causality and finds the mechanism of injury at which point they just become silent on the issue and keep producing the same vaccine.  This is the largest experimental vaccine program (maybe even the largest known science experiment) in the history of mankind.  We can only hope it ends well.

 I'm rambling... too much caffeine - that's another long story