Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 6277. (Read 26707211 times)
January 16, 2021, 11:24:39 AM
January 16, 2021, 11:17:06 AM
Dammit I missed it! What was it!?
One dude finishing on another dudes face, uncensored.
Well then, no wonder a cleanup was required.
Unfortunately, the internet never forgets (at least Loyce doesn't):
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/
/me bravely resisted temptations to post the direct link
January 16, 2021, 10:52:33 AM
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But insurance will never cover the value of all the assets. Custody with insurance is a scam
But insurance will never cover the value of all the assets. Custody with insurance is a scam
Not saying you're wrong or right. Just wondering why you state this as a fact.
Well if done like bank accounts it would have a limit of 250,000 usd value.
But you would get that. I would argue it is better than btc in a wallet. If they set it up like a bank setups up a cash account.
And the key here is they'll be paying interest to hodl our precious coins. It's a win-win.
January 16, 2021, 10:39:47 AM
When Bitcoin marches up to the expected and unstoppable stratospheric levels of 2021-2022, everyone that knows about it will go insane.
Both coiners and nocoiners.
For different reasons.
HoDL.
Both coiners and nocoiners.
For different reasons.
HoDL.
#all we need is
January 16, 2021, 10:25:16 AM
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But insurance will never cover the value of all the assets. Custody with insurance is a scam
But insurance will never cover the value of all the assets. Custody with insurance is a scam
Not saying you're wrong or right. Just wondering why you state this as a fact.
Well if done like bank accounts it would have a limit of 250,000 usd value.
But you would get that. I would argue it is better than btc in a wallet. If they set it up like a bank setups up a cash account.
And the key here is they'll be paying interest to hodl our precious coins. It's a win-win.
January 16, 2021, 09:42:08 AM
36k is the new 12k?
January 16, 2021, 09:24:18 AM
January 16, 2021, 09:00:20 AM
Nice. Still the problem with more current drives is the extreme data density in comparison to previous generations and thus the low tolerances during the process. In practise you would probably need to scan all the whole platters anyways as you don't really know where the file is and also the raw data might have been written over several ones in paralell to increase read/write speed (or so I assume).
True, and you're not going to get the data off with a simple Rpi, but the concept should still work. The company I mentioned recovers data from crashed drives all the time for $1k or so, they'd be able to give it a good go.
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The reason I think the Ironkey guy has a better chance is mostly because a) He already has the device b) It is not damaged and c) the guy (presumably) already has enough money to fund the costly effort.
As for the technique, I was thinking about maybe using a SEM to recover either the "access password" or the internal encryption key + separately dump the flash memory (which I assume is a regular one). Something like this:
https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~sps32/cardis2016_sem.pdf
Possible. Some of these devices do have anti-tamper that will shatter the chip if you try to pry it or stuff like that. Still we're taking a budget of ~100 million to crack it which is well within the above paper's recommendation of "just buy a fucking ion mill and 3d the state of the chip". The fact he hasn't done something like this makes me wonder if it's all a bullshit story.As for the technique, I was thinking about maybe using a SEM to recover either the "access password" or the internal encryption key + separately dump the flash memory (which I assume is a regular one). Something like this:
https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~sps32/cardis2016_sem.pdf
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P.S.: Or maybe just dump the contents of the main flash chip and try to brute force the encryption key IF it is derived from the "access password".
I'm guessing the anti-tamper options will limit this. Then again even if the device is set back to zero there might be residual info to reconstruct the data. This is why the military grade ones literally explode. We are talking a budget of 100m to break it, and every safe is rated not to keep your data secure forever but as a function of "time and tools". He should at least be able to get to the "copy the data and brute the key" level with current tech.
January 16, 2021, 08:59:38 AM
Dammit I missed it! What was it!?
One dude finishing on another dudes face, uncensored.
Well then, no wonder a cleanup was required.
January 16, 2021, 08:50:16 AM
Dammit I missed it! What was it!?
One dude finishing on another dudes face, uncensored.
January 16, 2021, 08:49:48 AM
That right there is some niche music for sure. How long did those guys live in their parents' basements before they ventured out on their own?
January 16, 2021, 08:46:24 AM
Which goes to show that Bitcoin needs to be taken very seriously. "Be your own bank" is tough. If you're not organized, not backing up your stuff, not taking such things seriously, Bitcoin's going to bite you in ways you never expect. It's going to mess with your head and even drive you insane. Same goes for any of us. Remember to always safely keep backups of your paper wallets and seeds, and make sure you clearly remember your passphrases and PINs. Periodically check to verify that you actually have access to your coins, this will refresh your neurons. Keep your keys away from online devices. Never take your PC/mobile to the repair shop when you have crypto in it (which you shouldn't have in there anyway).
Indeed. The concept of "bit rot" is a problem, as is finding tools to be able to read older media. Try finding a 7 track magnetic tape drive :-)
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After so many years of being buried under so much organic garbage, the chances of him finding the HDD and being able to extract the data are very slim. Still, an HDD is supposed to be a sealed container, although I believe there's usually a "breather" hole somewhere on the case, don't know what it's for, maybe to equalize pressure. If that's the case, and garbage juices and moisture got in though that, it's pretty much gone I guess...
Yeah, possibly. It certainly would not be an easy recovery but 250 million allows a lot of tools to work on it.
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$250 million is a lot of money though, and can get things moving. If he manages to find the HDD, he should pledge to give a very generous percentage of that to anyone who can extract the wallet.
Good luck to him, he's going to need it, especially if he's unsuccessful.
Good luck to him, he's going to need it, especially if he's unsuccessful.
And that is a big problem with this thing and the IronKey item: Anyone attempting recovery would know that a slip or error would result in wiping a quarter of a billion dollars of value off the earth, with the resulting "unhappiness" of whatever syndicate was funding the job. Forever you would have the question "maybe he got the key and is just not telling us" hanging over your head. (Yes, you could always check the public balance, but still people get weird when serious $$$ is on the line)
Even a simple task like replacing a USB port on a Trezor would be exceptionally complicated with that much $$$ on the line. It would be like walking a curb next to a street vs walking a curb over a river of lava.
January 16, 2021, 08:34:27 AM
I think I preferred the political posts over this one... W.T.F.
Dammit I missed it! What was it!?
January 16, 2021, 08:23:07 AM
(...)
But insurance will never cover the value of all the assets. Custody with insurance is a scam
But insurance will never cover the value of all the assets. Custody with insurance is a scam
Not saying you're wrong or right. Just wondering why you state this as a fact.
Well if done like bank accounts it would have a limit of 250,000 usd value.
But you would get that. I would argue it is better than btc in a wallet. If they set it up like a bank setups up a cash account.
January 16, 2021, 08:20:00 AM
Too busy IRL... Watching price when I can. I see pumps & dumps (for ants, although some are FAT ants).
Guys, need to post some extreme memes/pics ASAP if there's any hope for serious PUMP action. Supergirls, LGBTTIQQ2SA, gaynime and rusty pipes permitted. I've got to admit I enjoyed Frahm's panty+celery paintings. Always had a thing for women of that era. No CCMF or Carolinas please, save them for $100k, when the fun will really start.
HoDL.
Guys, need to post some extreme memes/pics ASAP if there's any hope for serious PUMP action. Supergirls, LGBTTIQQ2SA, gaynime and rusty pipes permitted. I've got to admit I enjoyed Frahm's panty+celery paintings. Always had a thing for women of that era. No CCMF or Carolinas please, save them for $100k, when the fun will really start.
HoDL.
https://www.brproud.com/news/police-in-louisiana-looking-for-man-accused-of-committing-unnatural-sexual-acts-with-2-horses/
"Our European visitors are important to us."
"This site is currently unavailable to visitors from the European Economic Area while we work to ensure your data is protected in accordance with applicable EU laws."
Are they protecting us Europeans from things that cannot be unseen?
There was nothing there to be unseen anyway. It likely has more to do with the fact that the EU has the best animal protection and welfare laws in the world. They wouldn't want you people getting any ideas about horses... other than eating them after they were humanely raised in captivity and euthanized for your nutritional requirements. Or maybe the site was stealing my personal data.
January 16, 2021, 08:15:26 AM
Waking up to the smell of rekt shorts in the morning. Appears number may be trying to enter going up mode again.
January 16, 2021, 08:01:01 AM
Saw about the same using 2016/17 as comparison, as well as 2013. Both did fit too, you know what happend later.
Pro Tip: ATH
We tend to see what we want to see. Just hodl.
Pro Tip: ATH
We tend to see what we want to see. Just hodl.
Ok. I didn't sell.
They really try to put pressure on us.
Pff... go back to reddit...
No, they banned me for using the wrong image hoster.
January 16, 2021, 06:58:28 AM
Some Titter analysts calling the top now.
I am still bullish and stay by the predictions of the tarot lady.
#hodl
I am still bullish and stay by the predictions of the tarot lady.
#hodl
Twitter/Reddit is shitcoin paradise. Just read any comments to any Bitcoin post. You'll find out the names of the shittiest shitcoins you never knew existed. Frankly, I don't expect anything else but anti-bitcoin, shitcoinery talk from these Reddit commentators.
January 16, 2021, 06:52:03 AM
Some Titter analysts calling the top now.
I am still bullish and stay by the predictions of the tarot lady.
#hodl
I am still bullish and stay by the predictions of the tarot lady.
#hodl
January 16, 2021, 06:43:46 AM
When Bitcoin marches up to the expected and unstoppable stratospheric levels of 2021-2022, everyone that knows about it will go insane.
Both coiners and nocoiners.
For different reasons.
HoDL.
Both coiners and nocoiners.
For different reasons.
HoDL.
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