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legendary
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When Bitcoin marches up to the expected and unstoppable stratospheric levels of 2021-2022, everyone that knows about it will go insane.

Both coiners and nocoiners.

For different reasons. Grin

HoDL.
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform


Need the printer to print dollar change  Cheesy
legendary
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Addicted to HoDLing!
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Damn.. for 250btc I'd buy the entire landfill.

He had 7500 BTC* in that HDD. Just imagine the feeling... I'd go insane!

* BBC — Bitcoin: Newport man's plea to find £210m hard drive in tip
legendary
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nutildah-III / NFT2021-04-01
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But insurance will never cover the value of all the assets. Custody with insurance is a scam

Not saying you're wrong or right. Just wondering why you state this as a fact.
legendary
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BREAKING: Financial powerhouse Goldman Sachs to offer #crypto custody as early as 2021!

https://www.coindesk.com/goldman-sachs-to-enter-crypto-market-soon-with-custody-play-source


Wait... Crypto custody is a case of not-your-keys, right?

The thing about custody is that it's guaranteed, often backed by insurance.
But insurance will never cover the value of all the assets. Custody with insurance is a scam
legendary
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Man who stares at charts (and stars, too...)

P.S. where is gentlemand?  Cool

Yeah, i already miss his lyrical shitposts quite a bit.
sr. member
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How can I get my creditor number? Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit

I got the same thing.

The creditor number is in an older e-mail.

Thanks, I found it.

If anyone else has problems finding their creditor number, search your inbox for '債権認否結果に関するご連絡/Notice of the Results of Approval or Disapproval'. Your creditor number is stated in that e-mail.

Yes, they haven't been sold at present though. You can monitor the trustee's addresses for movement here - https://www.cryptoground.com/mtgox-cold-wallet-monitor/

Thanks, bookmarked.
legendary
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BREAKING: Financial powerhouse Goldman Sachs to offer #crypto custody as early as 2021!

https://www.coindesk.com/goldman-sachs-to-enter-crypto-market-soon-with-custody-play-source


Wait... Crypto custody is a case of not-your-keys, right?

The thing about custody is that it's guaranteed, often backed by insurance.
legendary
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That poor slob in Britain is still trying to get permission to search the landfill for his bitcoins. Worth 250 million.

I can't think about how much that could wreck someone's life.

Which goes to show that Bitcoin needs to be taken very seriously. "Be your own bank" is tough. If you're not organized, not backing up your stuff, not taking such things seriously, Bitcoin's going to bite you in ways you never expect. It's going to mess with your head and even drive you insane. Same goes for any of us. Remember to always safely keep backups of your paper wallets and seeds, and make sure you clearly remember your passphrases and PINs. Periodically check to verify that you actually have access to your coins, this will refresh your neurons. Keep your keys away from online devices. Never take your PC/mobile to the repair shop when you have crypto in it (which you shouldn't have in there anyway).

After so many years of being buried under so much organic garbage, the chances of him finding the HDD and being able to extract the data are very slim. Still, an HDD is supposed to be a sealed container, although I believe there's usually a "breather" hole somewhere on the case, don't know what it's for, maybe to equalize pressure. If that's the case, and garbage juices and moisture got in though that, it's pretty much gone I guess...

$250 million is a lot of money though, and can get things moving. If he manages to find the HDD, he should pledge to give a very generous percentage of that to anyone who can extract the wallet.

Good luck to him, he's going to need it, especially if he's unsuccessful.

It's like a modern day pirate treasure buried somewhere under piles of garbage. The chances are not that slim unless the pc was entirely submersed into water. Damn.. for 250btc I'd buy the entire landfill. Another way is to start digging without a permission and pay fines later...

P.S. where is gentlemand?  Cool
hero member
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Homo Sapiens Bitcoinerthalensis
My thoughts are governments will start to prevent you from holding coins in your own wallets and buy 'token'
And that is exactly when I cash out.

What's stopping you from cashing out now?
I mean, ever heard of Paypal? China bans BTC? Shitcoin highway? No?



I can't think about how much that could wreck someone's life.

Ah, ain't that sweet of you.




EDIT: so, 4-9 mo to peak? it would be weird to have a cycle peak in mid September, though.


You can say that again.
I'm definitely fond of Augustus in this scenario. Wink
legendary
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Correct. My understanding is that all shitforks but BCH will be (or already has been) sold.

Yes, they haven't been sold at present though. You can monitor the trustee's addresses for movement here - https://www.cryptoground.com/mtgox-cold-wallet-monitor/
legendary
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Addicted to HoDLing!
That poor slob in Britain is still trying to get permission to search the landfill for his bitcoins. Worth 250 million.

I can't think about how much that could wreck someone's life.

Which goes to show that Bitcoin needs to be taken very seriously. "Be your own bank" is tough. If you're not organized, not backing up your stuff, not taking such things seriously, Bitcoin's going to bite you in ways you never expect. It's going to mess with your head and even drive you insane. Same goes for any of us. Remember to always safely keep backups of your paper wallets and seeds, and make sure you clearly remember your passphrases and PINs. Periodically check to verify that you actually have access to your coins, this will refresh your neurons. Keep your keys away from online devices. Never take your PC/mobile to the repair shop when you have crypto in it (which you shouldn't have in there anyway).

After so many years of being buried under so much organic garbage, the chances of him finding the HDD and being able to extract the data are very slim. Still, an HDD is supposed to be a sealed container, although I believe there's usually a "breather" hole somewhere on the case, don't know what it's for, maybe to equalize pressure. If that's the case, and garbage juices and moisture got in though that, it's pretty much gone I guess...

$250 million is a lot of money though, and can get things moving. If he manages to find the HDD, he should pledge to give a very generous percentage of that to anyone who can extract the wallet.

Good luck to him, he's going to need it, especially if he's unsuccessful.
legendary
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That poor slob in Britain is still trying to get permission to search the landfill for his bitcoins. Worth 250 million.

I can't think about how much that could wreck someone's life.

What are the chances the workers at the landfill have already had the diggers in?


The Ironkey guy has a better chance... even if I don't fully trust his story.

Man, why wouldn't you trust the former CTO of Ripple? I mean those guys are the most reputable on earth and we have his word. His word.

Yeah... if he turns down the 10% offer just to "put it behind him" then his 90% bullshit rating goes to 100%.
hv_
legendary
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Clean Code and Scale
If ppl just getting absorbed by big bags and hodl number go up Stolfi is correct

https://mobile.twitter.com/JorgeStolfi/status/1350305614065528833


Do more Bitcoin, yes you can also without ether tether brrrrether
legendary
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What kind of hack do you use to read the platters in analog mode? Firmware mod or you do attach some gadget directly to the head controller and dump the analog data of all the surface for post processing? Asking for a friend Tongue

For SMD, Shugart 1000, MFM and ESDI drives the raw signal is right there on the connectors, the controller does the a/d and sampling. This is why some controller cards are much better at reading disks than others. Degraded servo tracks on non-stepper motor drives are usually the problem here.

For IDE and up you do have to do a bit of surface mounted troubleshooting to find the head output from the Op-Amps but it's do-able. Now the professionals will open the disk in a clean room then remove the platters and read them with custom heads. Also remember you don't have to get the whole disk you just need to find the file of the wallet.dat. Even part of it would go a long way, and with things like a 256 bit ECC code you can probably compute out the missing bits with a lot of CPU power.

I like screwing with this stuff, keeps me out of trouble. The ironkey would be a lot harder IMO:

Nice. Still the problem with more current drives is the extreme data density in comparison to previous generations and thus the low tolerances during the process. In practise you would probably need to scan all the whole platters anyways as you don't really know where the file is and also the raw data might have been written over several ones in paralell to increase read/write speed (or so I assume).

The reason I think the Ironkey guy has a better chance is mostly because a) He already has the device b) It is not damaged and c) the guy (presumably) already has enough money to fund the costly effort.

As for the technique, I was thinking about maybe using a SEM to recover either the "access password" or the internal encryption key + separately dump the flash memory (which I assume is a regular one). Something like this:

https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~sps32/cardis2016_sem.pdf

Of course some top notch lab reverse engineering (on other units) would be needed even if just to check the viability on this particular device... But for 7000BTC I would say it is worth the try.
 
P.S.: Or maybe just dump the contents of the main flash chip and try to brute force the encryption key IF it is derived from the "access password".
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"


in a few years we will be among the top3 Wink

Why would it take "a few years"?

Sure bitcoin might go up and down in the coming years, but in the end, the peak of this cycle could well happen in the coming year to cause another 10x from here, which could well put bitcoin in the top...

Of course, no guarantees, but referring to "a few years" seems to be overly conservative in terms of "where we are at" and "where we might be going."

There is no blockchain, it's an illusion, only bitcoin. If you want to become "blockchain" dev learn SQL. If you want to dev bitcoin start here https://www.lopp.net/bitcoin-information/technical-resources.html

You just reminded me of every family gathering where people say "Well I don't know about bitcoin, it's kinda shady BUT how about that blockchain, eh? Can be used for some good stuff". lol

It's a kind of expression that seems to be attempting to show how smart they are when for anyone who has any kind of basic understanding of bitcoin will realize that they have just shown that they do not know what the fuck they are talking about.
legendary
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The case of when 'doing as as well as an average' feels pretty darn good  Grin
EDIT: so, 4-9 mo to peak? it would be weird to have a cycle peak in mid September, though.
legendary
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legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Good morning Bitcoinland.

Another lovely buying opportunity lost ($34380 Stamp) and back up... currently $36155USD/$46123CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Maybe I'll get lucky and it'll still be under $40k on Monday.

* Angrily waiting for wire transfer to hit Gemini so Bob can order some fucking dip *

You and me both. For you a wire transfer, for me a bank holding my funds.

Fucking a-holes.

What's taking so long, Jimbo?  I though that you were going to be buying this week or in the first half of this week or something like that.

Now you are waiting until Monday?

I suppose none of us longer term bitcoiners should be panic about these various kinds of ways that we get screwed over by traditional financial institutions or some of the transactions that we have to make that seem that they might end up costing us an arm and a leg (at least if we did not have bitcoin)... so in some senses, all the money that we lose, we have to pay or that we fail to earn because of various ways that we get screwed by traditional financial institutions ends up being dwarft by the sheer amount of value that we are gaining from the mere fact of having been HODLing onto our lil fiends for many years..

Your HODLing on has been quite a bit longer than mine, but I am surely feeling exponential magnifications in terms of whether I can spend the price appreciations as fast as they are rolling into the value of my HODLings.
legendary
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I fix broken miners. And make holes in teeth :-)
What kind of hack do you use to read the platters in analog mode? Firmware mod or you do attach some gadget directly to the head controller and dump the analog data of all the surface for post processing? Asking for a friend Tongue

For SMD, Shugart 1000, MFM and ESDI drives the raw signal is right there on the connectors, the controller does the a/d and sampling. This is why some controller cards are much better at reading disks than others. Degraded servo tracks on non-stepper motor drives are usually the problem here.

For IDE and up you do have to do a bit of surface mounted troubleshooting to find the head output from the Op-Amps but it's do-able. Now the professionals will open the disk in a clean room then remove the platters and read them with custom heads. Also remember you don't have to get the whole disk you just need to find the file of the wallet.dat. Even part of it would go a long way, and with things like a 256 bit ECC code you can probably compute out the missing bits with a lot of CPU power.

I like screwing with this stuff, keeps me out of trouble. The ironkey would be a lot harder IMO:
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