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Meanwhile, new bear attack. Looking forward reading what the experts think of all this.

Mind you, not only Amazon kicked them off their infrastructure, but at the same time Apple and Google removed their mobile app.
Feels very centralized and coordinated.

Grayscale have opened up investments into their crypto trusts again (except ETH for some reason):

https://cointelegraph.com/news/grayscale-reopens-crypto-trusts-for-investment-as-bitcoin-price-climbs

Anything that is removed, is by definition, censorship, whatever the motivation for removing it. Even if there are 100 twitters, if the industry as a whole deletes posts of a certain type, it has the same effect as mass censorship.

To ensure we remain a free society, censorship must be fought whatever the form. Even if that form is the profit seeking of media companies.

There is just too much temptation for political corruption and manipulation of opinions by deciding what gets removed and what remains. Only laws should determine that because laws are voted on by our representatives and can't as easily be manipulated as an employee making a biased decision about a post.

like Clinton pardoned the bomber of the capitol? I think not. But that's the problem. Some of you thought really, that you lived for 4 years in a facist dictatorship and finally you voted the dictator out of  the office. I lived in a country with a dictatorship. Let me tell you this. "You don't vote a facist dictator out of the office". So You thought really that Trump will pardon a cop killer. I am sure that you believe this with you heart like other believe they lived in a facist dictatorship the last 4 years.

 good old days but I think we can not compare these two different realities

And she rosted Harris like hell in the presidential debate. Sadly Harris will be your next president für 3 1/2 year or so.

I have the feeling that some of you forgot about the riots earlier this year. Where people died and buildings burned down. But these were mostly peaceful protest and to make the assumtion that all BLM protestors are responsible for these riots and death is not okay. BUT when its come to the "Trump supporters" then they all equal and are all responsible. Maybe the ones who vote for him too. Yes the voters of Trump are responsible too. That's hypocrite. And btw the leader of BLM call explicit for more violence on twitter if I remember correctly.

I read here that all Trumps supporters are responsible for the roits and how can you defend them. Then I ask. "all BLM Supportes are responsible for the riots, how can you defend them? Or at least be silent". This is stupid. I my opinion you are responsible for your self for your actions. If you do bad things, you belong to jail. If I like someone, I am not responsible for the action of other, who like him too. This is midevil.

rioters are rioters. They must be convicted and go to jail. But some rioters are more equal. Because I read 90 of 1xx antifa rioters where not convicted at all. But maybe here we get the same outcome. Some of them will be convicted, because they are criminals and are responsible for the death of people. Some are not. We will see.

Sorry. I am a little tired of this discussion. I see this all on twitter the whole day long. I am even not a citizen at all. We will see, what the next 4 years bring to the rest of the world. I fear, that war is comming again. So even if you hate Trump to the bones, at least he didn't start a new war and you can ignore the rest of his achievements.

But overall I like this thread. At least you didn't go each other agains the throat. And block each other. Because we have all something in common here and this is the bitcoin, its price and getting rich as hell to be not part of this crazy world and its problems any more. Buy an island and let the rest do what ever they want to do ...

Can just as well mean "Cheyenne Frontier Days" with matching shirt. Wyoming cowboys and such.

I do not really get this discussion about censorship. I don't see any censorship here, I see (rather large) companies exercising their contractual freedom in highly centralized environment. I'll admit that these times there is a narrowly defined narrative what is the right thing to say and think and often companies trying to avoid customer unhappiness in form of a shitstorm tend to follow that narrative to please their customer/user base.

But since you are basically unheard/invisible if you're not on Twitter (anymore) it is a form of censorship nonetheless nowadays. It is somehow ironic how many BTC-enthusiasts actually use Twitter and not something like mastodon. Decentralization does not only fix the monetary system, it would also fix social networks and energy production etc.. Email for example is decentralized, gmail might kick you, but then you can use hotmail (or go straight to protonmail if you're one of the brighter candles on the cake) or even register your own domain and run it from your living room on a rpi.

If Amazon decides not to deal anymore with Parler, that is fine by me. If Jack Dorsey thinks the orange nutjob is not worth the trouble anymore, that's his decision. People unhappy with that or missing the wisdom of Donnie should vote with their feet/d and use another company for their needs.
What keeps them from running their own infrastructure? Mind you, that was actually the thought behind the internet, being decentralized and everybody being able to run a service on their own computers.

One addition to the above, I might have left the impression that you and I are customers of Twitter or Parler or Facebook, that is not what I meant. We are in fact a supplier, we deliver the product that Facebook sells to advertisers, governments and aliens (basically everbody who pays for it). In turn we are paid for our generous delivery (you'd be astonished what the data about you - your data is worth to them) with "free" services that we can use. This bargain seems obviously too good for most of us to take care and take things into our own hands (i.e. using open standards like Jabber) and run our own services or use easily exchangeable small service providers that offer that to us for a small fee.

Yeah, how it all changed for him.

I remember his account was hacked twice and some of us left negative. This should not effect him since he did not do any trade on the forum. But no one thought he will leave us.

Good afternoon WO!
Observing @ $35,450

Who were panicking yesterday and sold low? 😛

Now where are my fucking Yaoi's?

Yeah, completely fuck all the people that don't wear a mask or do vaccines, and/or like to move on this Earth as free people.



Are you sure mother fucker? Because if not, you can always make a few laws up.



This is a very sensitive topic. Murder is murder of course, nothing more to add there.
But tell me, how do you fight back "the full force of the law" and subsequently the people that blissfully enforce it?
Tea?

Law throughout history, is a very interesting topic to follow.



Do you really have to convince us?



Whatever.you.say. Mr Agent Provocateur.

Hey, this is Trump's chance to pardon cop killers.  What's not to like?

Tulsi Gabbard (D) is someone that everyone could have rallied around . She is all about common sense.

In this interview she tells how there are very few moderates left in the Democratic party. She is awesome. Have a listen to what she says about the corruption in DC.

Ex-Congresswoman Exposes the Reality of the DNC & Govt. | Tulsi Gabbard | POLITICS | Rubin Report
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3j3RSxMSEg

Pity that kenzawak guy isn’t around anymore....

Looks like they found him, and CFD indeed stands for Chicago Fire Department

https://twitter.com/PamWolf12896175/status/1348866191528493056

Banning, monitoring, censoring, removing, or cancelling anything that isn't illegal as determined by a judge and directed by law enforcement with a warrant, is the start of a very dark future for all of us.

Our forefathers who died in the millions to give us the freedoms we have, will have all died for nothing if this continues. Everyone used to think China had it all wrong and now it seems everyone is all for the Chinese way of censorship and punishment of dissent.

I feel like I'm in the twilight zone.

Yeah, there are a lot of mentally ill people on the far right and on the far left but unless they do something "illegal", they have a right to say and do whatever they want. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it should be curtailed in any way unless congress or their state legislature passes a law against whatever they are doing and law enforcement takes action.

The idea that incitement of anything should be illegal is just plain communist to the core. That's basically saying, don't say anything controversial or in dissent or it might incite someone to do something. Now, if you directed someone to do something illegal, like if Trump said go kill people, then maybe there is something illegal there.

And no, I'm not a Trump supporter.

Man, yeah, those 2016 riots. Such a tragic loss of so many lives.