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legendary
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Not only the market indicators seems to be bullish, also most people in the board are bullish... i hope the time for the bullrun has come and soon we‘ll see new ATH‘s  Grin

Stay positive!

Greetings from the german board  Grin

Greetings mein bruder, we go to the moon next year Smiley

I‘m more optimistic, i think and hope that at the end of the year we‘ll start the rocket to the moon.. of course the flight to the moon takes a little longer  Cheesy


I think my guess in august was correct, right?  Grin

I'll make another forecast: we'll see a new ath this year  Cool (around 22k$)


Edit: no guarantee this time  Cheesy Cheesy
copper member
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If you don’t do PGP, you don’t do crypto!
It should not need to be said that I am not giving advice here.  However...

The primary reason why I avoid “KYC” is that I will not answer these questions.  On principle.  [...]

as to my private wallets, what happens there, stays there.
It should not need to be said that I am not giving advice here.  However...

The primary reason why I avoid “KYC” is that I will not answer these questions.  On principle.

Surely interesting points, and I hope that you are not overdoing matters.  I probably have communicated with you about this matter previously, but in my thinkening there can be some advantages (and even practicality, me thinks) in having a foot in both worlds, and I would hope that you would have something like that going on, as well...
In my country, there is an exchange which I use, which gives me a call about once a year. They ask the same questions, I always give them the same answers, which are generic or vague. If they need something specific, I also have an answer for that as well.

The truth is they will never really know, but at least I keep them satisfied so they don't fry my accounts.

I think the trick is not that you are invisible or anonymous, but something along hiding in plain sight, and below the radar.

I have no idea about your particular situations, and I do not want to know.  The following applies only to me.  YMMV.

A part of the problem is that if I were to do as you say, then I may need to lie (whether explicitly or by omission).  As it stands, where I am located, to the best of my knowledge, I am not doing anything whatsoever illegal.  Whereas I may trap myself, if I tried to answer any questions that I refuse to answer.  Moreover, TPTB probably know that some Bitcoiners don’t spill the beans.  I am not on any lists for potential audits or targeted surveillance as to this (albeit almost certainly on many other little lists—enough for me!).

I think of it like cash.  I am not doing anything otherwise illegal; and there is no law against my possessing a significant quantity of legally obtained cash (although it may be uncomfortable if I were found with it—so much for the honesty of laws...).  I would not place myself in a position ever to be asked questions about whether or not I keep cash, what I do with it, etc.  None of your business.

In my situation, the golden silence that I achieve by avoiding “KYC” exchanges altogether can never be held against me—not in theory, and not in practice.
Quote from: Sir Walter Scott, “Marmion” (PSA: ***NOT*** Shakespeare)
O, what a tangled web we weave,
When first we practise to deceive!
Furthermore, I don’t give the “KYC” exchanges any profit; I am effectually boycotting the rat-bastards.

Thus, I lead a different kind of double life with “a foot in both worlds” as naïve nocoiner, and a secret Bitcoin fanatic.

During the December 2017 pump, some idiot who knows me as a moderately adequate tech enthusiast e-mailed me to ask my opinion of Bitcoin.  I replied dismissively:  It’s all bullshit, it will crash, don’t bother with it.  I figured that anyone stupid enough to e-mail my IRL identity about Bitcoin from a @gmail.com address does not deserve Bitcoin, anyway.  Protip:  If you want an honest answer, ask me in private!

If I had at least an order of magnitude more money than I actually have, then I may not be able to pull this off whilst satisfying my desire to hoard as many magic coins as I can.  (“Focus on the IF.”)  So, if you are richer than I am not too poor, then you may need a different strategy.



Historic Currency

On a related note:  In the modern world, never show too much intelligence.  Smart plus principled equals dangerous.

High-IQ weaklings who are subservient to the system, or who compromise with it, are useful.  Smart men who refuse to compromise are ipso facto undesirable threats.  Smart plus principled equals “evil”, worse than “criminal”.

* nullius keeps his brain hidden under the mattress, with his bitcoins and some private photos of trysts with Phryne.
legendary
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Also, some of us have more than one hat. I have 2. Others have 3+. May be worth putting them all on display inside the user's hat page.
No biggie, but why not include ALL hats in existence? They may become collector's items someday...
Over time I will include all the hats of each user in their profile.
When I started, the process consisted of submitting a PM with data and their hats.
- Date registered Bitcointalk
- Profile
- Bpip
- Avatar: small / big
- Brief description image
- ✔️ = 3 best published threads
But very few did and I had to do it myself and just look for the original hat of each one.

It would be good to keep the WO hats distinction clear. I mean, I am open for everyone to get a hat so long as he/she complies with our values.
After all, we are a kind of a club, aren't we?
Exactly, the Wall Observer hat equals WO=BTC+HAT (In any order)


 While I do agree in principle, I don't want to be the one casting a vote that makes more work for you!  You've already been very gracious and charitable.  Thank you for the WOhats site and all the work you do to maintain it.

legendary
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Where that guy left, that was posting how much Bitcoins cost a 400 ounces gold ingot. I remember he posted it million times while price of Bitcoin did not move, so was mostly the same. Now that there are moves we are missing him Sad
legendary
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diamond-handed zealot
sr. member
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Quote
Important message as we enter the next Bitcoin bull market:

- BTC is very awesome
- You can make a shitload of money
- Only 3 mortgages at a time
- Twitter is investment advice
- Do buy BTC with credit cards
- Keep low time preference
- Do your own research

https://twitter.com/HODLAMERICAN615/status/1330628149806174210
legendary
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BTC + Crossfit, living life.
legendary
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hero member
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Plant 1xTree for each Satoshi earned!
When the price starting taking a down turn when I woke this morning I was expecting a retrace quite a long way down to perhaps around 15k or so.
This just goes to show the strength of the bulls this time as we are bought back up to almost where we started before the dump.
Let’s see this rally shift into the next gear this coming week.
Shaping up for a fantastic Christmas. Helps to make me smile through what has otherwise been a pretty lousy 2020.
Cheers to my fellow holders.

You have such potential for support group empowerment in beliefs. Cheesy Cheesy  ... You feel like a strong pillar of the cult. (ofc... bitcoin cult that is that I'm talking about) Cheesy Cheesy
hero member
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When the price starting taking a down turn when I woke this morning I was expecting a retrace quite a long way down to perhaps around 15k or so.
This just goes to show the strength of the bulls this time as we are bought back up to almost where we started before the dump.
Let’s see this rally shift into the next gear this coming week.
Shaping up for a fantastic Christmas. Helps to make me smile through what has otherwise been a pretty lousy 2020.
Cheers to my fellow holders.
legendary
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Merit: 1912
The Concierge of Crypto
In my country, there is an exchange which I use, which gives me a call about once a year. They ask the same questions, I always give them the same answers, which are generic or vague. If they need something specific, I also have an answer for that as well.

The truth is they will never really know, but at least I keep them satisfied so they don't fry my accounts.

I think the trick is not that you are invisible or anonymous, but something along hiding in plain sight, and below the radar.
hero member
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Plant 1xTree for each Satoshi earned!
[...]
... fixed users of the WO thread and others want a beautiful hat on their avatar, but they hardly ever post to Wall Observer.
[...]
Hey! ... I like to lurk in the shadows. Posting is only for entertainers like JJG. Cheesy Cheesy


Please, please, please post more, STRF.... I really love when you use bold and all caps to make your points MOAR STRONGER..


 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



Sry... I was not trying to take a shot at JJG. Cheesy Cheesy ... He is just here all the f^cking time (worse then fake plague corona) and he is convenient (and reliable!). Smiley
Could have izily said Bob, and he probably a much more handsome entertainer. Cheesy Cheesy
(but Bob took an year off like a year ago... so he not as reliable)




*Edit(0): Thx Jojo for showing me my new favorite channel ! Cheesy Cheesy
legendary
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Earlier today I left home to visit my cousin and two nieces for BBQ while Bitcoin was dumping, just came back home and Bitcoin is where it was yesterday.

"Bitcoin is a bubble", they said...  Grin



Always a butt hurt family member ready to stick the knife in at the first sign of trouble. Remarkably they’re very quiet when the King is pumping hard.


legendary
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Earlier today I left home to visit my cousin and two nieces for BBQ while Bitcoin was dumping, just came back home and Bitcoin is where it was yesterday.

"Bitcoin is a bubble", they said...  Grin



Meh.  6 hours to rebound $1000.
legendary
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Addicted to HoDLing!
Earlier today I left home to visit my cousin and two nieces for BBQ while Bitcoin was dumping, just came back home and Bitcoin is where it was yesterday.

"Bitcoin is a bubble", they said...  Grin

legendary
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Channel surfing for 2 months, couldn't find an ATH.  We are about ready to watch ATH Live, without changing the channel.

hero member
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Decentralize everything
Speaking of shitcoins, Ethereum is currently pumping hard against BTC. I was expecting it to drag us up but it looks like honey badger don't care.. hopefully once people start taking profits into BTC again we should be going up, might take a little while though
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
kyc'd to the hilt on coinbase  and such. i started with them in 2013 and while i knew about the whole pseudonymous thing but now with modern chain analysis man they can do some serious guesswork. i like that most of my coins are mainly from pool payouts, and all properly claimed on my taxes.

im sure i raised flags at the bank. i mean ive gone out of my way trigger flags, might as well flaunt it. and did get a call, specifically asking about coinbase, from my banks due diligence office. she mainly wanted to know what i used it for (investment none of your business) and do i send anything out of the country (no none of your business). thats was about it. coinbase and that particular bank account had been linked for like 8 years.

FTFY.

It should not need to be said that I am not giving advice here.  However...

The primary reason why I avoid “KYC” is that I will not answer these questions.  On principle.  Not to save money—privacy has been absurdly expensive for me!  I have lost a lot of money in Bitcoin and especially, in privacy coins.  Bitcoin’s rise in value may offset that.

And I could not answer some of these questions.  For fully legitimate purposes, I have made transactions with cypherpunks whose locations are as unknown to me as my location is unknown to them:  Essentially cash transactions with people who could be in the same city as I am, or on the other side of the world.  Do I send anything out of the country?  I honestly don’t know, and it is none of my business.

And if you ever send me money, then you will never again be able to answer such questions, either.  My homeland is terra nullius—that is all you need to know.


Surely interesting points, and I hope that you are not overdoing matters.  I probably have communicated with you about this matter previously, but in my thinkening there can be some advantages (and even practicality, me thinks) in having a foot in both worlds, and I would hope that you would have something like that going on, as well...

I don't necessarily need to know your personal circumstances, just advocating a wee bit towards the idea of having feeties in both worlds, assuming that yous got's ur lil selfie two feets,  #nohomo, and even if you do not got's two feets, I presume many udder peeps do.   Wink

and did get a call, specifically asking about coinbase, from my banks due diligence office. she mainly wanted to know what i used it for (investment none of your business) and do i send anything out of the country (no none of your business). thats was about it. coinbase and that particular bank account had been linked for like 8 years.

FTFY.

It should not need to be said that I am not giving advice here.  However...

The primary reason why I avoid “KYC” is that I will not answer these questions.  On principle.  Not to save money—privacy has been absurdly expensive for me!  I have lost a lot of money in Bitcoin and especially, in privacy coins.  Bitcoin’s rise in value may offset that.

And I could not answer some of these questions.  For fully legitimate purposes, I have made transactions with cypherpunks whose locations are as unknown to me as my location is unknown to them:  Essentially cash transactions with people who could be in the same city as I am, or on the other side of the world.  Do I send anything out of the country?  I honestly don’t know, and it is none of my business.

And if you ever send me money, then you will never again be able to answer such questions, either.  My homeland is terra nullius—that is all you need to know.

i agree. however ive run life changing amounts of money though coinbase and that bank account. theyve never given me any hassle or even asked where did  that money come from. nada. no interest all.

so eventually answering two questions about coinbase from the bank that, yes, technically they shouldnt need to know (well maybe they do coinbase is giving info to every agency that asks) is a small price to pay to avoid some weird checkbox because i dont fit into some category. doesnt mean i like it, and those answers were specifically about the money and coins that i keep in coinbase.

as to my private wallets, what happens there, stays there.

Vapourminer seems to be making my point better than me, but he did it first.

I do especially like the part about answering the stupid ass questions that they (coinbase, bank or whatever other third party) likely does not really need to know in order NOT to get put into some kind of "deviant" box.

Call me an optimist if you like, but I think we'll break ATH before December. All the news I see is positive, it's all upward price prediction reviews.

Only a catastrophe can stop this.

You optimist.
legendary
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Flippin' burgers since 1163.
This is not the Bitcoin I knew...

Where are the wild retraces? The endless dream crushing?

Bleh.


Many dreams are still crushed: Those dreaming about cheap coins.
legendary
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Merit: 11519
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Price hasn't gone up by $1000 in a day for 2 days now.

Iz bitcoin ded?
you mean is bitcoin your dad ? haha bad joke
no this is normal and happened thousand before , the liquidity now should go to the altcoins so they can has a breath , then you will see bitcoin flying again
no worries  Grin

Lots of shitcoin hopium in the air..

Right?

Is that you toknormal?  with that breathing analogy bullshit?  Or are you, hossamdz, just reading from the same nonsensical playbook hoping for your shitcoin bags to get a wee bit of a pumpening?

So you come over to this thread out of hope to edumacate the peeps in this thread with your distracting fuzzy logic baloney talk?  Don't you have another place to share your "abundance" of wisdom?

[...]
... fixed users of the WO thread and others want a beautiful hat on their avatar, but they hardly ever post to Wall Observer.
[...]



Hey! ... I like to lurk in the shadows. Posting is only for entertainers like JJG. Cheesy Cheesy





Please, please, please post more, STRF.... I really love when you use bold and all caps to make your points MOAR STRONGER..


 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Take your profits before we crack ATH.

That be called KORECK for dee dumbies who are selling any substantial quantities of BTC within deadman's zone.. sure token sales... no problema... or emergency sales... no problema...
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