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I don’t think Bitmex-gate is going to affect us too much. I’m still thinking that we moon in 2021, there is perhaps a chance that covid could stop us going as high as we would have but yeah, I still think we moon next year.


Now Now  LFC, the times of ATH are long gone Smiley , reminiscence of 2017 and keep it close to the heart Tongue
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Thanks, AlcoHoDL.

Thanks Jay, for your long (as always [saying this in a good way]), but thorough and merit-worthy reply, I appreciate it.

We are in agreement, and there's no need (for me) to reiterate what you already know.

Since we are posting in a public thread, sometimes as a courtesy, we (royal) do post some of topical matters in more detail than necessary for the benefit of others... so a little repetition tends to play out from time to time for those of us willing to bear such repetitions...

Of course, there are quite a few regular WO peeps who I have pretty decent confidence (faith) that do "get it" but every once in a while we witness surprises, too... mindrust.. cough, cough.. .. and also, face-melting BTC price moves or even long-ass periods of seeming irrational BTC price performances, sometimes can cause a few of us to enter locations closer to our psychological limits than we would prefer to acknowledge.

Just to clarify, my above highlighted text (in green) was not directed at your quoted long reply, but rather, it was meant to explain my very short reply to it (i.e., I don't need to reply in detail, since we are in agreement). Your reply was long (as always [saying this in a good way]), but well-written, and would deserve a longer answer, but I'm just far too busy with RL matters, so I just wanted to tell you not to take my short reply the wrong way...

No problem.. .Thanks for the clarification.. I did not take any of it in any kind of personal way..

As you likely realize, I will frequently find almost any excuse to rant about some random idea that I may be thinking and may not even have had anything to do with the original post...

Yes, ... also, RL obligations.   I can relate... ... I mentioned previously that I had been going over some of my security issues and even some matters related to passing on coins, in case something were to happen to me.  These kinds of matters can take a lot of time - and also reveal various compromises that happen along the way and even ways that security could be improved - if willing to put in a wee bit more efforts (that may or may not happen). 

I have found that whenever I spend some time to go through the process, then some of the security matters will end up improving through such process, though.  It's like having some kinds of security procedures, and if you you go through the process, at least, you remember what the process is, so that if certain kinds of shit does hit the fan, at least you have recently gone through the process (perhaps to be better prepared to deal with the shit hits the fan situation).
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[...]

Thanks, AlcoHoDL.

Thanks Jay, for your long (as always [saying this in a good way]), but thorough and merit-worthy reply, I appreciate it.

We are in agreement, and there's no need (for me) to reiterate what you already know.

Since we are posting in a public thread, sometimes as a courtesy, we (royal) do post some of topical matters in more detail than necessary for the benefit of others... so a little repetition tends to play out from time to time for those of us willing to bear such repetitions...

Of course, there are quite a few regular WO peeps who I have pretty decent confidence (faith) that do "get it" but every once in a while we witness surprises, too... mindrust.. cough, cough.. .. and also, face-melting BTC price moves or even long-ass periods of seeming irrational BTC price performances, sometimes can cause a few of us to enter locations closer to our psychological limits than we would prefer to acknowledge.

Just to clarify, my above highlighted text (in green) was not directed at your quoted long reply, but rather, it was meant to explain my very short reply to it (i.e., I don't need to reply in detail, since we are in agreement). Your reply was long (as always [saying this in a good way]), but well-written, and would deserve a longer answer, but I'm just far too busy with RL matters, so I just wanted to tell you not to take my short reply the wrong way...
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Who appointed the United States and its institutions to supervise Bitcoin?

Many or even most governments likely feel that they do not need an invitation, so there is that angle, too.

This was not unexpected:

*UK FCA BANS SALE OF CRYPTO-DERIVATIVES TO RETAIL CUSTOMERS
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@JJG

I don’t think Bitmex-gate is going to affect us too much. I’m still thinking that we moon in 2021, there is perhaps a chance that covid could stop us going as high as we would have but yeah, I still think we moon next year.

Fair enough.  I am largely with you, even if, perhaps, for slightly differing reasons.. and of course, part of my request for clarification came from some seemingly slight changes in some of your outline of our expected future with lil fiend.. minor as they may have been.

Personally, I believe that there are macro events that could shake bitcoin off of the various underlying fundamentals that differentiate bitcoin from other asset classes that are also captured in the dominant BTC price prediction models... and so far, we do not really seem to be seeing any kinds of substantive or meaningful divergences from already outlined path expectations.

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Thanks, AlcoHoDL.

Thanks Jay, for your long (as always [saying this in a good way]), but thorough and merit-worthy reply, I appreciate it.

We are in agreement, and there's no need to reiterate what you already know.

Since we are posting in a public thread, sometimes as a courtesy, we (royal) do post some of topical matters in more detail than necessary for the benefit of others... so a little repetition tends to play out from time to time for those of us willing to bear such repetitions...

Of course, there are quite a few regular WO peeps who I have pretty decent confidence (faith) that do "get it" but every once in a while we witness surprises, too... mindrust.. cough, cough.. .. and also, face-melting BTC price moves or even long-ass periods of seeming irrational BTC price performances, sometimes can cause a few of us to enter locations closer to our psychological limits than we would prefer to acknowledge.
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LOL.  Which?

Neither of them would want him; and one is overtly Communist.

I'm not sure which one you mean, but since he speaks Spanish, Cuba should be fine.
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McAfee

Wrong...

international arrest warrant for tax evasion

...and wronger.  Do not make right.

He should have stayed in a country that is a bit less a puppet of the US.

LOL.  Which?

Neither of them would want him; and one is overtly Communist.
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Not to defend McAfee but an international arrest warrant for tax evasion is not really great (and I'm not condoning tax evasion).

He should have stayed in a country that is a bit less a puppet of the US.

ftfy
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Not to defend McAfee but an international arrest warrant for tax evasion is not really great (and I'm not condoning tax evasion).

He should have stayed in a country that is a bit less a puppet of the US.
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meme USG paid thug edition

We need a dedicated forum for that.  Or at least, a dedicated thread moderated by someone smart, who does not sometimes disappear for indeterminate times.

Really, it could be a whole forum.

Who is Fleetwood Mac?




I meant to thank you for this; but my response became a wordy-man essay, which in turn grew into the rough draft of a twelve-volume series:

I always knew that the Communists hate me!

The enmity is requited.
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(...)

I seriously worry about being able to "cash out" when "fuck you" rich. I fear that, by that time, all the cameras, guns, machetes, rusty pipes and what have you, will be pointing at us HoDLers, even going so far as to label us criminals, DPR v.2 (or is it v.3?), or some other "guilty-until-proven-innocent" accusation. It all depends on how "accepted" Bitcoin will be at that point. And, as you know, timescales in Bitcoin time are very short, meaning that we'll know quite soon. It's all good to imagine an ideal world where TPTB have accepted and even endorsed Bitcoin, but I don't think this will be an easy battle. We may win, but there will be blood.

Of course this "cashing out" may not even be necessary, if things play out in Bitcoin's favour, and BTC (or satoshi, or whatever fraction of a satoshi results from a 2nd layer solution, should 1 BTC > $1M) ends up being usable in buying everyday goods and services. This would be an ideal situation, in which BTC's intrinsic value stays in the BTC realm and we directly use it to survive (food, shelter, Lambos, hookers, blow, the usual necessities). But, somehow, I don't think it will be that easy. Not when the establishment sees their power taken away. They won't surrender without a fight.

My advice is to be prepared for any possible outcome. Personally, I'm more exposed to BTC than I am to more traditional investments, but I can surely survive (and ever enjoy the occasional little pleasures—but nowhere near "fuck you" rich status) without touching my BTC. I just follow the "invest what you can afford to lose" motto, while at the same time supporting and firmly believing that Bitcoin will succeed.

In short, as Bitcoin's value is rising, my feelings are bittersweet. Sweeter than bitter, of course, but there's always that aftertaste you get when chewing a dirty piece of paper...

(...)


Alcohodl, it is ok to get fkn rich due to years of hardened bitcoin hodl. you don't need to be scared. you earned it and folks will admire you for it. I doubt that bitcoiners will have to fear getting robbed more than the casual millionaire next door.

you deserve it because you went down the rabbit whole and put money in some magic internet money shit when everyone laughed about it. you helped this revolution get ignited, you carried the torch in a critical time of its existence. when it was vulnerable.

the bitcoin KI will not forget you and will reward you royally.

it will be easy. the difficult times were the gut wrenching multiyear bears. the next difficult times are now. but the future is bright, bro.

and.. how do you sleep with less than 90% bitcoin exposure?  Cheesy

Thanks man, I appreciate the comment, which applies to most of us here.

About exposure, yeah, this is the only thing I'll regret when we moon. The fiat I could've invested in BTC, but didn't... Well, it is what it is, now I'm in HoDL mode and will wait it out.

As LFC says, we may get there next year. I'm OK even if we get there in 2022-2023. Of course, "getting there" means different things to different people. For me, it means BTC = $100k. I do expect BTC to reach far higher values than this though, even reaching $1M and beyond.

We'll know soon enough.



[...]

Thanks, AlcoHoDL.

Thanks Jay, for your long (as always [saying this in a good way]), but thorough and merit-worthy reply, I appreciate it.

We are in agreement, and there's no need to reiterate what you already know.



You guys are lovely.
Wish I knew you IRL.
OPSEC is a bitch!

#nohomohaiku



Edit: Added comment to JJG's post, and a haiku for you fucks!
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Quote from: nullius on October 03, 2020, 11:09:00 PM
Who appointed the United States and its institutions to supervise Bitcoin?



Since Bitcoin is "Decentralized" in nature, it does not need anyones permission to do that Tongue
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@JJG

I don’t think Bitmex-gate is going to affect us too much. I’m still thinking that we moon in 2021, there is perhaps a chance that covid could stop us going as high as we would have but yeah, I still think we moon next year.
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Omg are those trannies? This girl has bigger biceps than McAffee...   Grin
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Well, I don't know about Lambos, but McAfee appears to have sorted the "hookers & blow" part. That's something...

I hated that guy the moment I installed McAfee Anti-Virus on my PC several decades ago...
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If it is not something that can be done safely in an unregulated market, then maybe you shouldn’t be doing it in an unregulated market.  Don’t try to create the clusterfork of the bank-run financial markets in Bitcoin.

Thus concluded a post which began, with large boldface in the original:

Who appointed the United States and its institutions to supervise Bitcoin?
Bigger and bolder type  he is your answer:

Trump

If that is all that you got out of what I wrote, well...



You fancy that Bank-Owned Megalomaniac Biden (Diet Pepsi, (D)) be better than Bank-Owned Megalomaniac Trump (Coca-Cola, (R))?  (Or to others:  Vice versa?)  Protip:  They are both Americans.  They would both happily firebomb the whole world to smouldering rubble at the drop of a hat—or regulate Bitcoin into another bankster playground—or do whatever else the owners of the United States may desire.


Oh, this needs for me to pause from spending too much forum time in WO, and finish that thing that I have been intending to toss into P&S.  Meanwhile:

Universal suffrage is vote inflation.  Making everybody “free” by giving everybody a vote is like making everybody “rich” by printing lots of money.

Yes, that is an original observation on my part.  Analogy credit: nullius.

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