He tends to support centralization and trusted third partys for some unknown reason.
Makes me wonder sometimes why he supports bitcoin?
Examples would be helpful in buttressing your claim.
You support Coinbase and BSV, do I really need to add anything more than that?
Yes, you do. Coinbase as opposed to what? Binance? BitFinex?
BSV as opposed to what? BTC? From a fundamental analysis they are exactly as centralized as each other.
Kraken and Gemini
In what manner are Kraken or Gemini more decentralized than Coinbase?
Why do BSvers always try to redefine the definition of decentralization? Are there no arguments you can come up with that don't require redefining meaning of words?
What the fuck are you babbling about now? As you seem to be accusing me of redefining 'decentralization', perhaps you might be so kind as to provide me with your personal definition thereof.
Umm the decentralized part was referring to BTC vs your scamcoin, and not the exchanges. The exchanges were suggested as alternatives to Coinbase, seems like everyone got that part except for you.
Still waiting for your:
1) explanation of how Coinbase suffers more as being a trusted third party than is Kraken or Gemini; and
2) personal definition of 'decentralization', so we may continue this discussion in a rational manner.
Wow. Maybe we should have a poll on the topic jbreher?
Knock yourself out, though I don't see the relevance.
You summoned me indicating I like to 'support' coinbase.
Hueristic suggested it is because i like centralization and trusted third parties.
I pointed out that Hueristic's assertion was without merit.
Hueristic doubled down by conflating BSV with Coinbase.
I asked for an elaboration, as all exchanges are by definition centralized third parties, and that the BTC and BCH protocols are exactly as centralized as each other.
DaRude butted in in his/her typical clueless manner with 1) 'Kraken and Gemini', seemingly utterly ignorant of the fact that both these are also centralized trusted third parties; and 2) piled on implying I was changing the definition of decentralization.
I responded 1) asking how Kraken or Gemini are less centralized than Coinbase; and 2) asked for his/her definition of 'decentralization'.
DaRude then totally whiffed an answer, addressing neither of the points in discussion.
I responded pointing out that DaRude has addressed exactly zero of the points in discussion.
And full circle, you wade back in with irrelevancy about some poll.
That about sum it up? Yup, shore duz.
So after all that, to the point of you summoning me: yes, for my purposes, Coinbase is the proper exchange for me. Yes, it is a centralized trusted third party. AS IS EVERY FUCKING OTHER EXCHANGE.
As to the other topic somehow conflated in with the other. Yes, I understand that a good lot of you ascribe to the dogma that lotsa lotsa non-mining fully-validating clients equates to MOAR DECENTRALIZATION. Regardless of the relative amount of decentralization on any of a large number of other axes. And that lotsa lotsa minus one means that the entire system is in peril. You are of course wrong on both counts, but I get that all y'all think so. My point here is not to argue about that. It is to point out that your measure of centralization has fuck-all to do with any technical aspect of the coin/chain/client/code. It merely reflects the preferences of the market at this point in time, which is nothing more than the individual personal preferences of scads of individuals within the marketplace at this point in time.
Y'all are acting high and mighty about a state that is not due to anything fundamental, but rather due to collective whimsy.
So now that ONCE AGAIN, I have been
incrementally goaded into stating my position AGAIN, lest idiots be allowed to put words in my mouth, are ya happy?
Didn't think so.
You did not need to restate your nonsense spin position, again. You could have just sat back and said nothing.
Your whole rendition makes little sense, and I had already read some of the responses that your as spinning to be the bad guys.
In sum, no one seems to be disingenuous here, except you, in terms of attempting to have genuine conversations about the topic of decentralization or making comparisons between exchanges.
So, on the topic of exchanges, you are trying to suggest all exchanges are equally fucked up, when that is not true. Kraken and Gemini have not been accused of engaging in anything close to the same level of shenanigans as Coinbase... whether you deceptively attempt to reframe that as a question of level of centralization or decentralization or not.
And, on the topic of comparing bitcoin and the various bcashes, largely your favorite shitcoin BSV, the overwhelming majority of members participating in this thread already know that Bsv (or bcash sv) is a flaming bundle of scams, and since you ongoingly support such scam project, you ongoingly engage in attempts to equate it to bitcoin in various ways. Sure you might mislead and deceive a few newbies, so the various responses to your ongoing nonsense is not to convince your ongoingly scheming, twisting and deceiving ass, but instead perhaps to help some newbies from getting overly mislead by your ongoing nonsensical assertions whether you are making coin comparisons or exchange comparisons, in this particular example... or your historical BIG block support nonsense.. which continues to be one of your beloved shitcoin BSV talking points.
.. so there is no way just to solve such with big blogs - never
