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legendary
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Or modern forum software. I can only read BCT on my iPhone (Chrome). On Android, the letters are just noise to my eyes, so small  Grin
legendary
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I don't understand much about the cloud business, too much terminology for my liking. I tried translating kenkan, kijun, senkou, chikou before. Google told me it's Japanese.
I don't have anything interesting to say at current price levels, apart from the 2-month RSI pattern looks "cool". Not convinced how relevant this is though.



We are the resistance trend-line again, but still another 3 days before needing to make a decision.



There is a bull-cross of the 50 & 200 MA on the 4hr, that hasn't occurred for over 3 months. Probably relevant given how close these two were to crossing in recent months:



Kind of easy to be bullish right now for a number of reasons, as well as easy to make the case for being bearish simply for being at long-term resistance.

Its really quite simple in my opinion. It is just 5 inputs really...actually perhaps you could say 3 as the leading span A and B are predictive averages usually set 26 periods into the future. There is some debate on what 'settings' to use, for most its 9 26 52 26. Doubling these settings to 18 52 104 52 or perhaps 20 60 120 30 can induce interesting results as bitcoin trades 24/7 compared to the 8 hours most legacy markets use. The 20 60 120 30 setting is problematic as it skews the span B and base line inputs with unequal averages in my opinion. Still powerful on longer time frames it can be said however.

The key thing that you need to wrap your head around is the difference between moving averages and ichimoku. Where a simple moving average takes the closing price over a set period and adds them up and then divides by the set period, ichimoku takes that same set period and calculates the highs and the lows of the period and then divides by 2.

Here are some key terminology and the maths behind the curtain.

tenkan-sen or the conversion line = (9 period high + 9 period low)/2))

kijun-sen or the base line = (26 period high + 26 period low)/2))

chikou span or the lagging span = the closing price 26 days in the past

senkou span A or the leading span A = (conversion Line + Base Line)/2))

senkou span B or the leading span B = (52 period high + 52 period low)/2))

As each period closes it begins to 'paint' the cloud across the sky so all the animals have a place to dance.

#dyor

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#stronghands


ps  many of us at the Wall are old, deaf and near blind...larger images are appreciated by many    Wink


legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
Well, no. I think that placing your trust in the lowest common denominator is trust misplaced.

Further, I am not looking for a system 'governed by the technocratic elite', I am looking for a system with enough capacity to be money for the entire world. And 3-7 tx/s just ain't gonna cut it.

Your bloated Weather recording chain will never cut it

Because....?

Reasons.
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Don’t you guys buy and replace? Each purchase paid with bitcoin I immediately buy back on an exchange. And add some extra just to be sure, so you could say I have more sats because I actually do pay in bitcoin from time to time.
In the day it was more magic money coming from the little mining thing.

Then it was earned money, and my philosophy that a business has to pay for itself, thus selling or using bitcoin to pay op expenses.

No regrets, just some laughs from time to time.

As we discussed several times previously, guys who are earning money in bitcoin or they are mining bitcoin are in a bit of  a different place than those who are earning money in dollars and having to buy their bitcoin.

So for those earning in bitcoin, it is way easier to sell bitcoin here and there along the way because you need to balance yourself, to have enough fiat to cover your fiat expenses (and other discretionary consumption), and it is likely just a regular activity to have to sell a certain amount of BTC on a regular basis (especially if you do not have enough fiat cashflow to cover your expenses and at least your prudent discretionary consumption).

You are devolving into emotionalism, yefi, and that might not be a good direction.

That's impossible, I'm a cold-blooded psychopath, and I dare anyone to protest otherwise.

I wouldn't doubt that.

 Tongue



You fuck... said under my breath.
legendary
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Well, no. I think that placing your trust in the lowest common denominator is trust misplaced.

Further, I am not looking for a system 'governed by the technocratic elite', I am looking for a system with enough capacity to be money for the entire world. And 3-7 tx/s just ain't gonna cut it.

Your bloated Weather recording chain will never cut it

Because....?
legendary
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We didn't miss it, we saw through it.
we are not so foolish as to fall for your tactics.

What 'tactics'? Expounding upon the truth as I see it?
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It's real everytime they say. Let's hope this is the real one.

5 digits and more ;-)
legendary
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Well, no. I think that placing your trust in the lowest common denominator is trust misplaced.

Further, I am not looking for a system 'governed by the technocratic elite', I am looking for a system with enough capacity to be money for the entire world. And 3-7 tx/s just ain't gonna cut it.

Your bloated Weather recording chain will never cut it, the only reason why it is still functioning is because no one cares enough to swat it..
legendary
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Bump is nice!

Meantime I saw this and just fell over laughing. I simply do not think this well....



Good one! Cheesy



Hah. Al three a yas missed the point. Congratulations.

We didn't miss it, we saw through it.
we are not so foolish as to fall for your tactics.
legendary
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There is no doubt that validating nodes hold power. UASF proved that. 

Well, no. It proves nothing, as the battle was never fought.

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The original paradigm was the miners both did the hash work and the consensus validation. 

Yup.

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When the idea was 1 CPU 1 vote this meant both hasrate and consensus validation was distributed.  Upon the advent of ASICS harshpower began to centralize among the producers of the hardware as well as the large ASIC farms that became the current day miners.

Are you about to tell me that Satoshi never foresaw a day where 'maintaing the chain was the job of specialized servers, allowing users to just be users'?

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But protocol consensus was still something users did not need specialized hardware to validate/support.  So that function branched off to be a list of users LAGER than those providing hashrate security.

More power to your imaginary sky cavalry.


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Taking a sort of ad hominem stance by calling people who validate the protocol and transactions on the bitcoin network "irresponsible neckbeard hobbyists unable to make the proper life choices to enable them to leave mommy's basement" is not helpful or realistic IMHO.

Well, it's not so much that the majority of fully-validating non-mining clients are run by economically useless riffraff, it is more the fact that the network is dumbed down to the point that economically useless riffraff govern the capacity of the system.

If you can't see how futile that is, god help us all.

Hmm.  Well I think we are at an impasse.  We always were though.

I think the more nodes the better and do not care who runs them primarily.  I believe that that is exactly what decentralized minimized governance looks like and it is messy and slow moving.

You want nodes to be run by some sort of technocratic elite who will govern us all with what they decide the limitation, or removal thereof will be.

We are comfortable with different trade offs.  I think a distributed system with the least amount of trust possible is worth more than you do.

Well, no. I think that placing your trust in the lowest common denominator is trust misplaced.

Further, I am not looking for a system 'governed by the technocratic elite', I am looking for a system with enough capacity to be money for the entire world. And 3-7 tx/s just ain't gonna cut it.
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It inspired me so I made a little video Cheesy  Quality is terrible, because it is impossible to find full original clip nowadays.
 
Pumpamentals

legendary
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YOU claimed that both coins are equally decentralized, i asked for you to back it up, and you're asking me to define decentralization?


decentralization = ONE (ok manybe a few) datacenter that has the capacity to process this BSV nearly infinate size (at some point) gigabigabloatware data where everything including the kitchen sink and toilet plus the contents of those that goes down it and is stored on chain? i guess always wanted to know the exact composition of my septic tank contents. a "decentralized" blockchain that only huge AWS instances or other supercomputers and the likes likes can run?

No. But nice mischaracterization. At this point, there are plenty of 'normal' computers processing the BSV blockchain.

AFAIC, as long as there are no exclusionary barriers for new entrants to participate, then non-mining validation is exactly as decentralized as it need be. More such 'decentralization' is a red herring that serves no useful purpose. I realize this is a controversial perspective, but it is the one I hold.

The alternative is to dumb down the entire system to 3 to 7 transactions per second. The notion of such a system working as world money is so ludicrous that it beggars the imagination that anyone would so think.
legendary
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Your turn. What is the definition of decentralization to which you adhere, DaRude? Hmmm?

Riiiight, that's just you bitching about nodes, still not seeing you defining decentralization, and criteria that you used to come to conclusion that BTC and BSv are as decentralized? Surely you're not just putting out claims without backing them up  Roll Eyes

Still dodging, eh? Nothing to offer?

Huh, YOU claimed that both coins are equally decentralized, i asked for you to back it up, and you're asking me to define decentralization?

Yes. I quite clearly specified in what way I see it as such. You, OTOH, keep clinging to nothing other than 'but muh decentralization', with no explanation as to what you mean by such. Ball's in your court Bucky. Can you volley?

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Ahh and there we have it. So following your logic and your definition of decentralization, BTC is as decentralized as BCD (Bitcoin Diamond)?

Well, no. As you would know, if you had more than two brain cells to scrape together, BCD is not a SHA256 coin. As such, it has no meaningful ties to the satoshi legacy.

Keep trying, tho. Maybe some day you'll arrive at an incisive observation.


Maybe.

Ahh right i see, so then by your definition of "decentralization" BCD is even more decentralized than BSv because it's NOT using SHA256?

Well, no.

By not having a tie to the satoshi protocol, BCD is irrelevant, no matter its level of decentralization.

Though your insistence on using it as an example does say a lot about you. After all, on the axis of mining distribution, if the criteria is 'who has enough resources to be able to economically mine it', then BCD is quite a bit more decentralized than is BTC. So as you are the one worshipping the false god of 'but muh decentralization', do you prefer BCD to BTC?

Incidentally, still waiting for that definition of 'decentralization' that you've been dodging for over a week now.
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Clueless!
https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1286106604513918981

Trump is speaking in an elaborate code but his message is crystal clear.

"Person, Woman, Man, Camera, T.V....." Shocked

He is saying he knows he will lose on Nov. 3, but that's good because Bitcoin Hyper-Bull Season is about to begin and he wants out of his blind trust so he can buy coins.  Grin

Just to translate a small piece, Camera = 10k in August, 20k this year, 100k+ next year.  
 



Not sure...but I'm pretty sure Trump is NOT in a Blind Trust...thus the Supreme Court Case. (correct me if I'm wrong folks on here) ...

as to the 'code' idea ...he talks and walks like and idiot..that should be 'code' enough! (IMHO..its the USA you can think what you want about who you want) Smiley

Brad
legendary
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It’s not hard to go above the average here  Roll Eyes

Go GPT-3 !

Also make GPT-3 in charge of trading Bitcoin -> instant adoption. Because logical.
legendary
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Oh my...

https://cointelegraph.com/news/openai-bot-writes-a-blog-wows-bitcointalk-with-intelligent-posts

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Except, Araoz wasn’t the one writing the blog. He hasn’t posted anything on bitcointalk.org’s forums for years —  and has nothing against its users. It was GPT-3 the whole time, he said...The bot’s predicted sentences were used for posts on the bitcointalk.org forum in recent days, leading to ‘positive’ feedback concluding “the system must have been intelligent".

legendary
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When the idea was 1 CPU 1 vote this meant both hasrate and consensus validation was distributed.  Upon the advent of ASICS harshpower began to centralize among the producers of the hardware as well as the large ASIC farms that became the current day miners.

Are you about to tell me that Satoshi never foresaw a day where 'maintaing the chain was the job of specialized servers, allowing users to just be users'?

First of all, Satoshi did make an evolving snapshot prediction based on what bitcoin was as of mid 2010 and how he considered bitcoin to potentially evolve, but NOT even Satoshi could predict every single factor or how events might play out, including how much intervention might be possible in terms of possible software changes (including segregated witness), or how back and forth competition whether we are talking about ASICs or just larger and larger computers or even government or financial institutions getting involved in mining or running nodes, even if a variety of matters, including a combination of running nodes and mining would help to determine bitcoin's direction or consensus that arises out of figuring out which users decide the direction of the chain or which chain is actually bitcoin, versus some snake oil baloney that spouts out talking points to try to propagandize people into believing that it might be the real bitcoin.

Currently, bitcoin does not have any meaningful competition from any of the cryptos or the sham bcash forks, so seems a bit ludicrous to continue to suggest any of the bcashes as if they were somehow sufficiently similar to bitcoin in terms of gaining much if any network effects, especially relative to bitcoin.
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