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legendary
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It's thirteen o'clock on day 25 month 3 2023 and wave 7 of CoVid-21 has mostly cleared the herd as far over the Persian Gulf, killing a lightweight 4% this round. Europe is still largely aflame, but a few gentlemen have been seen gripping successfully to the far northern isles. The Cascadia-Mexico border is as intractable as ever, and UBI and MMT have reduced those once proud nations to rags, with cockroaches for sustenance and filthy water for drink. Bobville celebrates the first anniversary of its name change from Antananarivo and the continent is ruled with loving care as ever by He-Who-Abides.
There's a big fight on the Wall Observer Thread of Bitcointalk fame about whether the next halving has been priced in. Some say 'duh look at that massive volume spike and giant green dildo, that must be it' and some say 'you have to wait till after the halving for the pricing to kick in, trust me I was here back in 2020 and saw how it spiked to 256K in late 2021. Just give it a chance young padawan and your socks will be blown off'.
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Not planning to buyback unless it goes back to $4k which is pretty much impossible.

If you are even 50% sure about this scenario then plz buy some and forget about it, if not then Best of luck for your future endeavors.

I had a great system. I wasn't making big but it was adding up in time. The moment I started to throw big bucks like $5k+ I lost control. I wasn't buying the dip anymore.

I should not even have to say anything.

Just look at your above statements, they are internally contradictory.

You cannot have a "great" system that is only prepared for one direction (or mostly one direction, as long the other direction is not too extreme).  Get real.  We already know that bitcoin has extremes, and if you buy on the way down and then you cannot sustain your buys, you just have to stop buying and just ride it out.  We have said this like a thousand times in this thread... I mean we said it enough that the practice should mostly be ingrained.

So, yeah, one aspect about your above statement is that you acknowledge that you lost control and therefore that you went too far in terms of throwing too much of your fiat (reserves) at the down movement too quickly.

I am not going to portray myself as some kind of saint, any of us who are trying to employ a kind of system that both DCAs and buys on dips is likely to run into some kind of variation of the problem that you describe, which is running out of money while buying on the way down, and at some point, as long as we are not getting really retarded in terms of attempting to employ leverage, we either have to tapper our buys down drastically in terms of amounts or the increments of the buys or we have to just completely stop and just wait it out... which could even take several months if the situation becomes a bit way too far out of wack.    

When it comes to bitcoin, I can't be sure about anything.

Join the club, especially when it comes to short term.. but when it comes to longer term, that is what we have to keep in mind, so even though the short term can both out pace expectations, it can also last way the fuck longer than we would like to happen... So waiting it out, might mean that you are 70% underwater for a decent amount of time (maybe 3 to 10 months or perhaps even longer), and maybe you would just keep dollar cost averaging into such a situation.  I was in a similar situation in the last half of 2014, all of 2015 and the first half of 2016.  I was 65% down at several points, and spent a lot of 2015 in the 50%-ish down.

That's why I am overly conservative this time. DCA only.

Current situation is fucked up too. Everything can go down instantly tomorrow. I am hodling most of my cash in bank and even that's not safe.

Maybe that could be called conservative?  Switching over to dollars is not necessarily "conservative" because that is only one asset class, and so you end up having nearly all of your eggs in one basket.

I'd rather DCA. 50 bucks week. Not planning to buyback unless it goes back to $4k which is pretty much impossible. If it goes that low again you can be sure that it won't stop there so... DCA is the way. No dip buying, no big buying. 50 bucks week and that's it.

Even if goes below $4k again, I am not willing to risk more than %10 of my cash this time. I was too careless last time especially in the last months.

Waiting for a double price from here is gambling. I am fucking done with gambling.

Honestly after all whats said and done, if I had you in front of me, I would bitch slap you till you bought at least 50% of your coins back, i.e. 5, at these prices.
You did say you would ride it to zero, so fucking ride it to zero.

How can you keep on doing it wrong man?


I don't think that there is any right number, exactly, because once mindrust made the mistake of selling 10BTC ish at $4,500-ish and therefore going 100% into cash, there was some kind of calculation of factors.. NOT just the panic aspect but something else, also.

So, 50% might not be right.. but 20% to 30% or some number that is less than 50% might be right for the circumstances.  I actually don't know what that is, either, so I am not going to pretend to exactly be able to say what that number would be for mindrust. but I get your point, cryptotourist that likely anywhere between about zero and 20% might objectively be wrong numbers under almost any scenario.. including the fact that even mindrust is admitting that he made a mistake and regretting his decision and therefore, he is compounding one mistake on top of another.

I think that the number has to do with what realistic, true and not fantasy land probability mindrust assigns to up and what number he assigns to down (I could care less than two shits about whether he is correct or not or what number any of us assigns to the probability), and the amount that he puts back into BTC would some how make those numbers line up in such a way that his reinvestment back into BTC turns him into something close to a neutral in terms of how much emotions he attaches to either BTC price direction (and fuck it about whether he is right or not, that does not matter, because if he is lining up the numbers in such a way that he is emotionally neutral, the ultimate direction does not matter, and sure he can tweak along the way, too from time to time).. so his action would make him neutral and not give any shits either way.... something like that.

Of course, there is some kind of locking into taking these kinds of actions, but still when each of us takes an action like this, we are still empowered to do whatever we want, including changing it; however, if we truly engage with ourselves about our thinking about the asset, we should be able to make some kind of commitment that we do not have to change every time that BTC prices change by 3% or 5%.
legendary
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Great news, now the atmosphere in WO should turn more towards positive again  Grin
Made you rank up as soon as you post to solve the mystery.


Err, while the bros were in "jail", the atmosphere got a lil more agressive and negative than usual, imo.

EDIT: Just recognized the sM++ THANKS  Grin Cool
Activity has to go up a bit more and my hat will be on again!
Ah!
I can make you crank merits but not activity!
We will have to wait then!
legendary
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diamond-handed zealot
legendary
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We choose to go to the moon
legendary
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I'm no conspiracy theorist, I tend to want to see evidence before I even consider anything a possibility, but I tend to be open to see the evidence and make a decision for myself.

I believe there is a Corona virus out there. I believe people are getting sick from it. I believe people have died from it.

My question:
With all of the people that record video of every boring part of their day (planting flowers, eating dinner, walking the dog, etc.), why are there no videos of people in their hospital beds dealing with this virus?
A quick search of Youtube shows that there are several media videos of people talking about how they are sick, but no "Joe blow" sitting in his hospital bed talking about how much it sucks on his Youtube channel.

And on Facebook I see plenty of people talking about how "my friend's dad died from it" or "my friend is a doctor and he's overwhelmed", etc.

But where are the videos? If you know of any, please let me know to ease my confusion. This should be a common thing on Youtube.

Elwar,
with all due respect.
This is a nonsense.

Mobile are not allowed for patients in ICU.

A couple of video to tell you it's real:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgPZtTeEG5k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_gjf3p-cf8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y39Y6ANewME

Want more? I have plenty of those
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legendary
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meanwhile

https://covid.joinzoe.com/
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Take 1-minute to self-report daily, even if you are well.

Help our scientists identify:

    High-risk areas in the UK.
    Who is most at risk, by better understanding symptoms linked to underlying health conditions.
    How fast the virus is spreading in your area.


-coming to the US tomorrow                                                                           edited

broken for now  Huh
legendary
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The UK has now *downgraded* COVID-19 as of March 19th, is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious diseases (HCID).

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid




...aaannd it's gone.
legendary
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Some 405,000 people have signed up in 24 hours to volunteer with the NHS after a recruitment drive to help the vulnerable amid the coronavirus crisis, the PM Boris Johnson has announced.
The miracle is the website didn't crash with that traffic.

edit more Brit stuff, a big field hosp. https://twitter.com/TheDannyLes/status/1242882157107970048?s=20

edit try this https://twitter.com/TheDannyLes/status/1242882157107970048
legendary
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probably ACE2 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15141377 that's about SARS
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It binds via the angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) receptor located on type II alveolar cells and intestinal epithelia (Hamming 2004).
https://emcrit.org/ibcc/COVID19/
not sure if that is what you're asking

That's also the link between Ibuprofen and severe Covid development in healthy, younger patients.
On many of their stories they said they've taken Ibu in the early stages of sickness, because they were thinking of a common cold, before Covid got way worse.
WHO retreated on that Ibu warning without any explanation, afaik...
legendary
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probably ACE2 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15141377 that's about SARS
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It binds via the angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) receptor located on type II alveolar cells and intestinal epithelia (Hamming 2004).
https://emcrit.org/ibcc/COVID19/
not sure if that is what you're asking
legendary
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Man who stares at charts (and stars, too...)
Prince Charles tests positive for corona Cheesy

While tested negative for cojones  Cheesy
legendary
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Man who stares at charts (and stars, too...)
Great news, now the atmosphere in WO should turn more towards positive again  Grin
Made you rank up as soon as you post to solve the mystery.


Err, while the bros were in "jail", the atmosphere got a lil more agressive and negative than usual, imo.

EDIT: Just recognized the sM++ THANKS  Grin Cool
Activity has to go up a bit more and my hat will be on again!
legendary
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diamond-handed zealot
we need to figure out what the fuck the marker is that this thing is latching on to

the filter it is applying is just bizarre
legendary
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$120000 in 2024 Confirmed
BBC News - Chloe Middleton: Coronavirus victim, 21, 'had no health issues'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-52041709



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Its time to take that $7,000 hurdle  Cheesy
May be we have this in April because right now sticking around 6600$ and 6750$.
legendary
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yes
Its time to take that $7,000 hurdle  Cheesy
legendary
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I keep hearing that the stimulus package passed but am seeing conflicting reports.

Is the digital dollar included?

No. Last I read the Senate deal has been agreed to but not voted on. The House bill had the digital dollar in it but that was taken out and made into a separate bill. I don't think it was ever in the Senate bill.

of major differences-10K student loan forgiveness is out. I agree, that was peripheral (nothing directly to do with the current predicament), but would have made an impact on millenials/gen X-ers.
However, with congressmen being older than 60, it had no chance.
legendary
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I keep hearing that the stimulus package passed but am seeing conflicting reports.

Is the digital dollar included?

I might be a few minutes behind, what I understand at this instant...

a supposed deal has been reached, the mechanics of passage on the floor are still pending and is not assured

the DD was dropped from the final version



grain of salt, the situation is fluid

edit/

GOP Senators Demand Fix For "Massive Error" In Coronavirus Bill Which Would Create "Perverse Incentive"

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Unless this bill is fixed, there is a strong incentive for employees to be laid off instead of going to work

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/coronavirus-bill-may-suffer-further-delay-after-gop-senators-demand-fix-massive-drafting

something something, die at jamba juice you peasants
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