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The mind of a bear is quite interesting.  Cheesy

Seems like lambie/bambie has transgressed into even higher levels of retardedness if he believes that everyone is a bear who has any questions of bitcoin's price direction at this time.

Of course, lambie bambie was arguing with passion and vigor that everyone had to go "all in" when BTC prices were in the $9ks and $10ks, implying that the only way was up.. and how fucked would those people be (financially and psychologically) if they listened to his moar bullish than anyone else stupidities?
Slayers is correct in that there is never a wrong time to go all in King Bitcoin. Some times are better than others(bargains), but all entry levels are good.

Im just a bitter old salty-cunt and still hold a grudge bc Slayer defeated my text walls and banished me from here for weeks while I tried to become a better man with his advice.

Yes GayJayGee, it is always a good time to buy Bitcoin.  Cool We will figure out a way to desalinate your cunt secretions one day. Dont give up.  Wink

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Dude, you were right, you're somewhat biased towards me.
The link to my profile page...
I was trying to suck out a dried fruit, obviously.

If the shoe fits, wear it.

You are the one who somehow managed to imply that the coronavirus outbreak was the fault of Austrians and/or Germans, by a nonsensical direct analogy to completely irrelevant historical events.  I object to that.  Don’t you wax self-righteous toward me, now—especially not when my initial response showed insight into German and Austrian post-WWII cultural issues, instead of simply invoking Godwin’s Law and calling you a troll.

But what if he is a troll.  Smiley
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@HHorsely
HUGELY bullish dynamics for Bitcoin right now:

- BTC flat during HISTORIC risk-off days in markets.

- 72% on Coinbase buying.

- The Halvening is 50 days away.

- Billions in buys coming when levered longs return.

- And if 1% of >$2T+ of stimulus finds its way to Bitcoin...
https://twitter.com/hhorsley/status/1240389839234752522?s=21

https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2020/html/ecb.pr200318_1~3949d6f266.en.html

ECB is about to put 750 billion Euros worth of icing on your Bull Cake.  Smiley
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I fix broken miners. And make holes in teeth :-)
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If you don’t do PGP, you don’t do crypto!
You are the one who somehow managed to imply...

I see...

I was going to chalk up your twisted way of interpreting my words to your admitted lack of facility with the English language.  However, I then saw what you added to your prior reply after I replied to it:

EDIT: Forgot about the trolling, sorry nullius (half of the introduction is sufficient for a good description of your posting style in our tittle discussion)

That’s the second time that you have accused me of trolling.  So, let’s get this straight:

  • You:  Hit Godwin-in-one with the coronavirus—and belligerently insist that those who disagree with you just don’t get it, because this can be understood only by those of German or Austrian background, which (as you know through clairvoyance) anyone who disagrees with you must not be.  (I thereby provide to you a Wikipedia link, because you seem to be using Wikipedia to learn about basic n00b concepts pertaining to Internet discussion.)
  • Me:  Pointed out that you’re full of it.  Also that you are ignorant of history—your historiography of WWII causes is arrant nonsense.  And check my post history:  Not a troll.

You accuse me of trolling?

LOL, *plonk*.  ← Usenet jargon meaning that I am killfiling you.



Humour note:  My first objection to OutOfMemory’s horrible analogy was titled, “TRUTH: Coronavirus was created in Hitler’s secret lab, hidden in hollow Earth!!”  I extended OutOfMemory’s absurd analogy to make it even more absurder, for funny hyperbole plus a shot at the idiots pushing the “bioweapon” nonsense in the other thread.



Either I caught mad cow disease from the Nazi-bioengineered coronavirus, or eddie13 said something intentionally funny:

That's it..
I'm calling china and tellin them that it's actually germany/austria's fault..
Also to rename it the hitler virus..

Actually, that’s not a bad idea:  Such rhetoric makes about as much sense as much of the other garbage that’s being passed around.

The difference is that you are saying it as a joke, and not as Jürgen-style “I am ashamed and angry” browbeating delivered with tedious scolding about how people who are not of German or Austrian background can’t understand, or I don’t get it, etc., ad nauseam.

What with you being a self-proclaimed “basically am a jew” (stated by you under protection of America’s First Amendment, in terms illegal for OutOfMemory), you would probably be amused by some of the Jürgen skits involving belligerently unhinged apologies to Jews.  Search Youtube—or simply incite OutOfMemory to explain to you how “angry and ashamed” he is.  Due to our history.  Oh, and if you disagree with anything he says about that, it means you just don’t get it—and you are a troll!

Since you are American, you may not be aware that this is a stereotype in Europe, both on the Continent and in the U.K.—thus the skits on British TV.  Unfortunately, as is the case with many stereotypes, there are a significant number of Germans (and Austrians) who behave this way.  Most of them don’t.  But the stereotype sticks, because (0) the ones who are that way are very vocal about it, and (1) political grudges, of course.



Now, I have covered this tangential subject in some detail.  I tend toward approaching such matters thoughtfully, instead of tossing off an invocation of Godwin’s Law to shut down the discussion.  My mistake, I suppose:  Godwin’s Law exists for a reason.

I will therefore decline to carry this discussion further—unless somebody says something peculiarly amusing, such as that Germans should apologize to China and pay reparations for the Hitler Virus.  LOL.
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Seems to me that I sufficiently believe in BTC as much as most of the most ardent of BTC supporters, but surely that belief should not result in my employing more gambling and/or risk than I would prefer to employ, if I can avoid it... Therefore, I do not want to put myself into any more stress than i need to.

Yeah, I did not want BTC to go below $5k and I believed that it had pretty damned decent chances of NOT going below $5k.. but it did, anyhow.  Fuck that, but that is this kind of market.. cannot really know anything with any kind of meaningful level of confidence.

So, yeah, I have Buy orders down to $3k currently.. and really I do not want to inject any more fiat into this, but I have some fiat that is already theoretically allocated to BTC... and yeah, I will likely transfer half or so of that fiat to one of my exchanges if the BTC price breaks below $3,850 again... NO, NO, NO... I don't want the god-damned BTC price to be dipping below $3,850 because I do not want to transfer that money.. but fuck, I already have that tentative plan.. which is a hopefully it does not happen, one....  

Anyhow, that transferred in money would be to set up buy orders for below $3k.... Yeah. .I do not want it to happen, but BTC does not give any fucks about what I want.

Point is that "all in" is NOT the only strategy, and ONLY ends up being "the best" strategy, if you happen to end up being correct in a kind of gambling outcome.. which currently seems to be around 50/50 at this time... Nonetheless, I do happen to understand that it is NOT going to make a whole hell of a lot of a financial difference if you (or I) buy at $4,700 or $3,500, but it seems to me (projecting into the reasonable what-ifs) I am going to feel way the fuck better psychologically if I have money to buy in the lower $3ks, if the BTC price goes to that outrageous range rather than running out of money.

I have run out of money on several occasions in the past (at least resorted to more rationing than I would want based on NOT wanting to run out of money to buy BTC), and even in recent times, I have been kicking myself a little bit for having to ration my dollars as much as I have had to ration them in order to have more ability to meaningfully buy BTC than merely symbolic buys in the sub-$5k prices (that I had hoped to fuck would not have come, but those sub $5k prices did come, as we concretely and experientially know).
I cant help butt into Slayer's conversations w my boring strategy droning. I will try an work on this bad habit.


Thanks buddy. Wink

Thanks for what?  You seem to have inabilities (could be just lack of desire or even desires to misinform) to grapple with actual facts and logic, unless you are merely selectively choosing or making shit up. For keeping the oceanic ecosphere intact with the salt from my vagina?


Yes, among other things.  Smiley
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Pomp's friend Raul Pal is pushing an idea to escape into USD (https://twitter.com/RaoulGMI), but USD increased too much in the last few days.
It's got to reverse soon, maybe then btc would go back back to 7K and more.
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I can't get this image of little corona's spitting out of a mangle...all screaming BRRRRRRRRRRRR! whilst #feelsguy looks on with horror...  Sometimes the mind is a funny thing.   Cool



Why worse? Asymptomatic cases will for sure not need hospital. Main problem that we have is that there is/will not be enough hospital beds/medical stuff/medical equipment for all. If 70% of population is immediately taken out, then we are operating with much smaller numbers. For me this is a very good news.
The problem is asyntomatic is that they don’t know they are spreading the virus around. Hence they are actually infecting people a lot more than syntomatic people that eventually quarantine themselves reducing contagion risks.
This is why lockdowns are important even early on the infection cycle.

A fairly easy to digest nugget about covid-19 and epidemics imho. Please share.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgBla7RepXU

Bonus material for philomaths.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kas0tIxDvrg

#washyourhands
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This is beautiful; I don’t want to detract by dissecting it, so I will keep my reply short:

Thought I'd mention that I'm using Bitcoin for what it was intended... not as a get-rich-moderately-quickly investment vehicle (although it has actually done quite well as that) nor a retail purchase currency (coffees?) but rather as a fast, reliable, cheap and secure way to send money around the world.

Since we decided it would be more prudent to wait out the Covid-19 emergency and panic by staying in our remote jungle village instead of dealing with high-risk airports and cities, I had to figure out a way to take care of financial obligations at home while not having a bank account.

There is also the fact that they may be closing the only highway into our village to keep tourists from bringing Covid-19 in. We  might be truly isolated, a whole community quarantined. We have no landline or cell phone service but usually have internet access. Postal service is almost non-existent taking months for delivery.

Bitcoin to the rescue. A friend lent me 3 bitcoins. Sent him an address with a QR code and he sent me 2.5btc. The other 0.5 he's going to sell (ouch!) and use to pay my rent and bills and put the rest on my credit card. I prefer for them to owe me money and not the other way around.
Hopefully by next month I'll only have to sell a lot less than half a coin to pay my expenses.

Meanwhile I'm sipping a cold Tecate and thawing out some imported beef while my lovely Mexican cutie is making taquitos out of the leftover chicken. We have lots of TP and there doesn't seem to be any shortage of anything yet. It's as if Covid-19 didn't even exist here.

Life is good. Thank you Bitcoin.

The Real Flippening would be when the actual Bitcoin economy picks up, and takes over substantial real-life functions from the economy based on government-issued toilet paper.

When a stash of Bitcoin helps you to survive a real, dire emergency, it is a happy moment because Bitcoin helped you, and a sad moment because too many ways of “spending” it are either directly or indirectly dumping it for fiat.

When you can spend Bitcoin to another Bitcoiner, who will in turn spend it to yet another Bitcoiner—that is the golden moment of Bitcoin maximalism!

I know that everybody here understands this on such a level that I seem to have stated only the obvious.  But the concept needs a name, and a concise model of thinking.  I propose The Real Flippening:  Bitcoin flippening over fiat bit by bit.  Hardforking the government-controlled economy without consensus official mandate.  The generalized concept of a fork attack need not only work against Bitcoin.

It is another reason for each individual Bitcoiner to push for adoption.




And in good humour, it seems. :-)
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You are the one who somehow managed to imply...

I see...


That's it..
I'm calling china and tellin them that it's actually germany/austria's fault..
Also to rename it the hitler virus..

I hear some places are having trouble cremating the amount of dead bodies.. I will also suggest them to contact germany for their expertise on this subject..

They also must pay reparations to china for this.. Actually, every country now owes china reparations just because..
Can be payed in the form of consensual annexation by china..

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

EDIT: Thanks eddie, i'll take this laugh with me to hodlsleep (c).
Good night at $5.375
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Why worse? Asymptomatic cases will for sure not need hospital. Main problem that we have is that there is/will not be enough hospital beds/medical stuff/medical equipment for all. If 70% of population is immediately taken out, then we are operating with much smaller numbers. For me this is a very good news.
The problem is asyntomatic is that they don’t know they are spreading the virus around. Hence they are actually infecting people a lot more than syntomatic people that eventually quarantine themselves reducing contagion risks.
This is why lockdowns are important even early on the infection cycle.

They successfully used mass testing to stop the virus in a small Italian town. Quarantining the asymptomatic was what totally stopped it.


https://www.nhregister.com/coronavirus/article/Italian-town-experiment-coronavirus-testing-Vo-15141033.php

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the small Italian town of Vò has not reported any new cases of COVID-19 since last Friday and the spread of the illness has been completely stopped there.

Vò, a town of 3,300 just outside Venice, was part of an experiment that involved aggressive testing and quarantine measures. Every single resident was tested for coronavirus in late February when Northern Italy was first rocked by the outbreak, and three percent of inhabitants were found to be carrying the virus.

Andrea Crisanti, an infections expert at Imperial College London, was involved with the experiment and told news outlets that half of the carriers exhibited no symptoms.

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Anyone who tested positive was placed under quarantine, as were individuals that came into recent contact with the infected. The town's residents were then tested again 10 days later, and just .3 percent of the population was found to be carrying the virus. However, at least six infected individuals were asymptomatic and would not have been tested in most other countries.
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Dude, you were right, you're somewhat biased towards me.
The link to my profile page...
I was trying to suck out a dried fruit, obviously.

If the shoe fits, wear it.

You are the one who somehow managed to imply that the coronavirus outbreak was the fault of Austrians and/or Germans, by a nonsensical direct analogy to completely irrelevant historical events.  I object to that.  Don’t you wax self-righteous toward me, now—especially not when my initial response showed insight into German and Austrian post-WWII cultural issues, instead of simply invoking Godwin’s Law and calling you a troll.

That's it..
I'm calling china and tellin them that it's actually germany/austria's fault..
Also to rename it the hitler virus..

I hear some places are having trouble cremating the amount of dead bodies.. I will also suggest them to contact germany for their expertise on this subject..

They also must pay reparations to china for this.. Actually, every country now owes china reparations just because..
Can be payed in the form of consensual annexation by china..
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Anybody has an explanation of btc flatlining?
It's weird, but i take it in lieu of declining.

just a guess but it came in my mind today:

cash is king in these times and therefore a lot of speculation on the price of BTC is missing. what we see at the moment is maybe nearly the real value of BTC without the whole amount of speculation which is responsible for all the noise in other times. look how stable BTC can be without speculation. impressive!

No way this is even close to the real value of btc!

The price is stable because we have market makers involved in the system. They make their money by keeping the price stable. We had a massive dump the other day and then the market makers stepped in and are keeping the price stable at it's current level. If we have a massive pump, the market makers will stabilize the price at whatever it ends up at.

The price only moves up or down when the action is too much for the market makers to control.

That's a really strange explanation.
If market makers were buying (from sellers) on the way down, THEN they have to entice a pump (during which they can sell the inventory and stay neutral), otherwise they would be loaded with btc that they (market makers) don't need on a permanent basis.

They don't buy on the way down or the way up when there is a big move. They get out when there is too much price movement. They are mostly present when the action dies down. Look up market making bot.

I'm sure the pros at the big firms have more complex strategies than you can get with a crypto bot but it's the same concept.
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Dude, you were right, you're somewhat biased towards me.
The link to my profile page...
I was trying to suck out a dried fruit, obviously.

If the shoe fits, wear it.

You are the one who somehow managed to imply that the coronavirus outbreak was the fault of Austrians and/or Germans, by a nonsensical direct analogy to completely irrelevant historical events.  I object to that.  Don’t you wax self-righteous toward me, now—especially not when my initial response showed insight into German and Austrian post-WWII cultural issues, instead of simply invoking Godwin’s Law and calling you a troll.
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You're never too old to think young.
Thought I'd mention that I'm using Bitcoin for what it was intended... not as a get-rich-moderately-quickly investment vehicle (although it has actually done quite well as that) nor a retail purchase currency (coffees?) but rather as a fast, reliable, cheap and secure way to send money around the world.

Since we decided it would be more prudent to wait out the Covid-19 emergency and panic by staying in our remote jungle village instead of dealing with high-risk airports and cities, I had to figure out a way to take care of financial obligations at home while not having a bank account.

There is also the fact that they may be closing the only highway into our village to keep tourists from bringing Covid-19 in. We  might be truly isolated, a whole community quarantined. We have no landline or cell phone service but usually have internet access. Postal service is almost non-existent taking months for delivery.

Bitcoin to the rescue. A friend lent me 3 bitcoins. Sent him an address with a QR code and he sent me 2.5btc. The other 0.5 he's going to sell (ouch!) and use to pay my rent and bills and put the rest on my credit card. I prefer for them to owe me money and not the other way around.
Hopefully by next month I'll only have to sell a lot less than half a coin to pay my expenses.

Meanwhile I'm sipping a cold Tecate and thawing out some imported beef while my lovely Mexican cutie is making taquitos out of the leftover chicken. We have lots of TP and there doesn't seem to be any shortage of anything yet. It's as if Covid-19 didn't even exist here.

Life is good. Thank you Bitcoin.
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Yep. Guilty of the 60's hippie part. I was a beatnik before that. Maynard G. Krebs was my hero when I was a schoolboy. Got the scars on my liver to prove it.

I never said I was old and wise though. You just assumed that part.  Now I'm middle-aged (in my 70s) and I can still be foolish.

Well, I presume that having finally hit middle age, you finally learned to respect the opinions of people who were called “conservative” when you were a know-it-all youngster.  Now, if only the youngsters would listen to you...  I am sufficiently old-fashioned to blame modernity itself.  The modern mentality.  Now, get off my lawn.

Never got herpes but I did need tetracyclin and Quellada on the odd occasion (another great boomer invention... the sexual revolution). Those were the days... after the invention of the birth control pill and before the discovery of AIDS.

Before the discovery of coronavirus, too, it seems.  Well, don’t worry:  The hedonists nowadays can get their jollies on Pornhub, just as they have their “Friends” on Facebook:  Without human contact.

I suppose that such a means of itch-scratching will probably not make many babies; but as you observe, that outcome is specifically avoided, anyway.

Thanks for the gin. Hope you don't mind me splashing a little Dolin's and dropping an olive in it. As for sharing bottles, think of it as un-thickened alcohol-based hand sanitizer.

Here: have some Farmacias Paris "Alcohol Puro 500 ml 03500111" in a recycled Agua Purificada bottle with a laser-printed label. Kills all the nasties... viruses, bacteria, even intestinal parasites. Yum.

Ah, a man of refined tastes:  An olive in your pharma rubbing-liquor and a splash of... whazzat, I gott it backwerds?  Dammn I’m drunk.  That winston chap did warn it’s like a dose of nitric acid, that Victory Gin.  Welcome to the future...  happening now, much better than Orwell ever imagined, and I sez BETTER because I love Big Brother.

* nullius sheds tears of love for Big Brother (right before the bullet)
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Dude, you were right, you're somewhat biased towards me.
The link to my profile page...
I was trying to suck out a dried fruit, obviously.

EDIT: Forgot about the trolling, sorry nullius (half of the introduction is sufficient for a good description of your posting style in our tittle discussion)
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