Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 8401. (Read 26713700 times)

And yet, maybe there is a person in the forum who could be a mediator between us? There is no way that this task could not be solved!

Those systems are tracking you.  There are a decent number of people who do not want to be tracked, so even if it is happening more and more frequently, there are going to continue to be people who are choosing to use money that is more private, in certain circumstances, and if that money is available to them.

Of course, if such money is not available to them, then they are going to have to figure out ways to be more creative to attempt to either have plausible deniability or take too many chances of being traced in too many ways that they would prefer NOT to be.

One of the values of bitcoin to be attempting to take measures in the privacy direction, but it is going to be a bit harder to be private, if your only way into bitcoin is through some tracking mechanism and then you are not engaging in practices to cause the traceability of your coins more difficult.

I don't know how ridiculous this may seem to you, but I once met information that theymos was named Michael. And I think I even saw his parents' address. I'm not sure if that's 100% accurate information, but it was very similar...

I also believe that it is NOT a good strategy to blow your whole wadd, anyhow, even if you had
$30k that you might be able to invest over a few year timeline.

So, you can look at the price between 2013 and 2016 and even consider that some guys (and gal) who got in during that time period, might have taken a few years to buy in, so their average price per BTC might kind of fluctuate and even how much that they had available to buy BTC each month may have varied.  Maybe some months they had $200 that they could invest, and other months they had $1,500, and maybe over several years they might have accumulated a decent chunk of BTC, but NOT as many BTC as you might presume them to have been able to accumulate.  You have to account for some mistakes along the way too... even if it is not the mistakes of buying into shitcoins, there can be other ways to make mistakes and lose money too by selling some at the wrong time or even getting scared and failing to buy during certain periods of time and then buying some dumb consumption good, such as a motorcycle, rather than buying BTC... things like that.

Look at mine: keep kalm and Hold on...

Exactamente, ivomm.

Those shorts of whiteboy sounded so good in theory, and he even had a few lucky ones, so his credibility seemed to have gone up, and then he lost one and then another and then I recall that he was expecting the price to go all the way up to the lower $9ks before his next short, and that one must NOT have worked out too well.

Theoretically sounds good to be shorting, but does not always work out so well... just like jonoiv was seemingly so goddamned smart and smug about selling after nearly a 2x price increase in the lower $6ks in early May 2019.. and so he had been waiting for 7 months to get back in, and when prices were going back down to $6,424 in December, he was starting to feel relatively smug, again, but that did not work out too well in terms of continued down momentum that did not want to continue and did not even get down to his original sell price.. but he would not have bought back in, anyhow, because he was waiting for unrealistic prices.... and of course, he wants to make some profits on his earlier decision to sell in the lower $6ks after a 2x price increase... .

Others do that too, and then they try to reframe what they did.. .and yeah, it is difficult to be timing these matters..and better to continue to prepare for up and don't be selling too much of lil fiend with expectations to buy back at lower prices, especially in a seemingly bullmarket.

hm, never have attended to this sort of business. in the early times if ppl bought mining equipment and stuff they communicated via PGP encrypted PM's and have had revealed some sort of receiving addresses to other ppl.

EDIT: try to send theymos some of your chocolate and see how he will react. he have never attended to some sort of meeting or anything else of the early Bitcoin community activities as I know so far.  

maybe a needed correction. let us become patient again. it was a wild ride so far in 2020.

Listen guys, but some users buy goods on this forum somehow staying anonymous, or am I wrong ?

Just so we are all on the same page, it is better to either say that you are closing a long or that you are selling and hoping to buy back at a lower price.  You are not employing more sophisticated (or more complicated) financial tools.  At least, not until you get more brave (or greedy... hahahahahaha).


We know how they happen "after the fact," but we cannot really know with any kind of precision while they are happening.  Sure, in the last run to $19,666, you would have been  o.k. to sell anywhere between $13k and $19,666.... and then buy back anywhere between $3,124 and $7k.... so there ended up being two really big difficulties about knowing when to sell and how much, and then knowing when to buy back and how much.

In 2016/17, there were a lot of people who were thinking like you and many of those people thought that they could see parabolic moves, and ended up selling between $4k and $8k, and that might not have worked out too well for them, if they kept watching what happened after that, and then trying to buy back, and not really being able to... because in the summer/fall of 2018 there were about 5 or 6 revisits to $6k before she finally broke below $6k.

So, yeah, sometimes afterwards, you can really see it, but if you are trying to see it while it is happening, you might see it too early, because there are a whole hell of a lot of fake outs along the way both in terms of when the top is over and then where the buying back correction is going to end.. including the fact that some of the buying correction might not end up going much if any lower than the points that you ended up selling.




It is only "dumb" when you are looking at the matter in retrospect.  I am not telling you what to do because you can do whatever the fuck you want, but there are a lot of people who have done hell-a-well in bitcoin through largely ONLY applying BTC accumulation strategies, and when they sell BTC, they are actually selling for good rather than hoping to buy back lower... in other words, they have already gone up a couple of cycles, so whatever portion of their BTC that they are shaving off is merely just to buy whatever they want, whether it is dental implants or a castle or hookers, lambos and blow or some other item(s), and they might end up selling a large chunk of their BTC at certain points, such as 15% or 25% of their stash, but at the same time feeling that they still have a decent stake and are willing to let the remaining 75% to 85% just ride for a few more years.. and maybe cashing out a small amount more if they need it before the next exponential rise.

So if you have been through a couple of bubbles and your average purchase price is around $100, then you might not care too much if you sell some at $4k or at $10k... even if you might have sold a bit already at $17k.


Seems to me that if you let your BTC accumulation ride for long enough, it might not matter so much anymore at what point you shave off some profits.   But, yeah, of course, we see some patterns that are likely to repeat, which is gradual price rises that become steeper and steeper and steeper, and at some point it becomes clear that a blow off top is coming... but it still remains unclear regarding how certain is that blow off top.. you might get lucky, and you might not.... you feeling lucky, punk..? (#no homo)

I remain leery of any strategy that tries to go too hard towards locking in supposedly "sure" profits that involves playing around with very much of the BTC stash.  Yeah, maybe playing around with a bit of the stash (such as 25%), but I would be quite nervous if I were to sell off large amounts of my BTC stash waiting when to buy back in, and I personally would rather just ride the price down while HODLing and only shave off small portions of my stash in order to use those proceeds to buy back.... There just have been too many times, when the price is going up to be tempted into believing that the top is near or soon and it ends up being no fucking where near to the top or soon.  I personally sleep better as a mostly HODLer, and I suppose that has to do with the fact that I also already have money in fiat related investments, too, even though you might believe that it is a bad practice to end up riding the BTC price down through a correction that ends up being in the 85% territory (retrospectively, finding that out.. even though you are trying to suggest that it is more clear than it likely is regarding when the BTC prices are going to go down and how far).

Now I feel like Sheldon... 

Such a feeling I would probably experience without knowing how much people watching their anonymity communicate in this thread, Elwar does not count. 

Dude it was an attempt at humour. Never mind. There's no need to send me any choccy. Just send if someone pm's you.

I appreciate your joke!
 I don't think you'd really give me your home address for cocaine. Well, as you can see, I'm not from Colombia.  

I have no goal of getting your or anyone's home address/private information, I just want you to try this divine chocolate made only of natural products with your own hands.

You just reminded me, 100k party soon


Better safe than sorry.

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1179700.shtml

https://twitter.com/bigapple_agent/status/1229137799401607168?s=20

Okay, I'm ready to send you some piece chocolates. But I wouldn't want it all to go to you alone...
And how do I send it to you?   I'm from the Ukraine.

I don’t think Olegya199 means any harm but sending something physical does involve an OpSec issue.
Maybe he could send people $1 worth of BTC or something.

I would be noble & pass on the gift but it’s a better idea than giving home addresses out.

Actually we don't need to disclose ourselves for who want to de anonymous to us, pretty obvious, a lot of people already give their identity informations for 1$ in airdrops or shitcoins