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legendary
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Pretty much what we’ve discussed here ourselves, including the numbers there.

What do you think buddy, what’s your estimated top of this coming bull run?

I feel a little bit more bullish than that.
In mic's contest I voted for 25,000 by halving. This means ATH before halving, this is going to be a little bit stretchted seeing where are we stand right now.
However, we know how it happens: slowly at start, then all of a sudden.

This can be achieved if there's a daily gain of 1.1% on the BTC/USD price.

Not impossible, but if it happens, it will probably be as you say, slow --> sudden. Regardless, I think 2020 will be a good year for Bitcoin, with 2021 breaking 6 figures. The main thing is not to reach it, but to sustain it.

I'd say, keep HoDLing throughout '20-'21 at least.

This is fine.

Don't mean to be a party poop..... well maybe I do?

What if the BTC price shoots up to $85k-ish by the end of 2020... but then corrects back down to $25k for the duration of 2021 and maybe into 2022... then what are the HODLer "waiting to sell some BTC" peeps gonna do when king daddy does not perform up to expectations?  

Maybe they start to feel that they did not sell enough BTC on the way up to $85k-ish? or they did not sell any?
 and then they feel that they missed the opportunity, again?  

Maybe even having to wait a few more years for the next price splurger into 2023-25--?   who knows... patterns can be broken, no?  Perhaps?  Perhaps?

You'll never be a party poop JJG. You know that.

Well, there's always a risk. Maybe assess the situation at the time, see how far you are from your "moon", and sell a percentage of your stash? Like 10%? 25%? Or even 50%? You're still a HoDLer. Depends how you observe it. Look really closely and you'll see ups and downs and wild swings and chaos. Move the camera far away and you'll see a nice uphill path, with the occasional valley, but you'll know where it's heading. Unless it all goes haywire due to some unforeseen "extinction event". Still OK, as the investment was always "as much as we could afford to lose" anyway.

It's fine by me. Can't guarantee anything, but I feel a kind of certainty that no fiat investment has ever given me. I felt this when I understood how Bitcoin works. It was a kind of revelation for me, and I felt sick to my stomach when I realised how much time I'd lost. It's talking to us. Through LoyceV's graph, through the price charts, through Satoshi's paper, through BT posts. It's everywhere. And it's expanding.
legendary
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Pretty much what we’ve discussed here ourselves, including the numbers there.

What do you think buddy, what’s your estimated top of this coming bull run?

I feel a little bit more bullish than that.
In mic's contest I voted for 25,000 by halving. This means ATH before halving, this is going to be a little bit stretchted seeing where are we stand right now.
However, we know how it happens: slowly at start, then all of a sudden.

This can be achieved if there's a daily gain of 1.1% on the BTC/USD price.

Not impossible, but if it happens, it will probably be as you say, slow --> sudden. Regardless, I think 2020 will be a good year for Bitcoin, with 2021 breaking 6 figures. The main thing is not to reach it, but to sustain it.

I'd say, keep HoDLing throughout '20-'21 at least.

This is fine.

Don't mean to be a party poop..... well maybe I do?

What if the BTC price shoots up to $85k-ish by the end of 2020... but then corrects back down to $25k for the duration of 2021 and maybe into 2022... then what are the HODLer "waiting to sell some BTC" peeps gonna do when king daddy does not perform up to expectations?  

Maybe they start to feel that they did not sell enough BTC on the way up to $85k-ish? or they did not sell any?
 and then they feel that they missed the opportunity, again?  

Maybe even having to wait a few more years for the next price splurger into 2023-25--?   who knows... patterns can be broken, no?  Perhaps?  Perhaps?

How about this strategy:

I assume that 80-100K btc next cycle medium is correct.
Why correct? Because at the same S2F as gold in the next cycle, I don't see why btc cannot have a 20-25% of gold's market cap (at the minimum).

If above is correct, then btc would fluctuate around that number (sometimes out-performing, sometimes under-performing).
Use whatever multiplier you think is likely to describe such under/out performance.
If such multiplier is 3X, then it is 240K-300K at the peak, 27-33K at the trough.
If multiplier is 2X, then 160K-200K at the peak, 40-50K at the trough.
No multiplier-just sell some at 80-100K when it gets there.
Divide your "selling stash" into three equal parts.
Sell one at 80-100, second at 160-200 (if it gets there), third at 240-300K (if it gets there).
Then, wait for either 27-33K or 40-50K trough and possibly re-buy there or simply enjoy it.
Average of all three would be approximately $180K (not bad!)


hero member
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Bitcoin isnt gonna pump, buy stocks bc they are at all time highs. Roll Eyes Its just the flu bro.

via Imgflip Meme Generator

I like best the part where these msm crackpots touted a 1 out of 400 mortality rate when was actually 1 out of 5. Just the flu bro, who cares if mortality is 8000 percent higher than our fake news pretends.
legendary
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diamond-handed zealot

I looked closely and realised they're using the Formant analogue synth, from Elektor magazine! I wanted to build this when I was in my early teens!

No time like the present.  It would be easier and cheaper to implement such a project now than at any time in history.  Nothing in it more integrated than an op amp.  Get orders in to Digi-Key and OSH Park and build a module.

Would not surprise me one bit if someone hasn't already created and shared the gerbers for the boards if you poke around a bit.

edit/  another useful link https://www.frontpanelexpress.com/     /edit

Not even joking man, doooo iiiiiit

legendary
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I also think there is still fuel ...

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$BTC - I think there is still some rocket fuel left in the #bitcoin tank..



Source: https://twitter.com/BigChonis/status/1227046665187622912

The volume shows that there is a lot of negotiation, besides the current world events can help to continue growing in price.
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Just the flu, bro.

Buying and holding imaginary, valueless, digital shitcoins is far more scary than a 2-5% mortality rate (for white people at least).  I laugh at 2% mortality rate.  I wouldn't even wear a mask at 5%.  If the Jews attempt to poison the well with smallpox, then we might have an actual problem.  I have noticed Amazon is having a very hard time keeping new, popular electronics products in stock, though.  So if you plan on doing any type of computer upgrades, you might wanna go ahead and buy them now.
hero member
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Confirmation from the CDC that not only is Coronavirus in the U.S., but that California already has two strains.

They will be playing the "Just the flu, bro" game while we pump to 14k with little fanfare.

https://twitter.com/nextstrain/status/1225796522299871232

"Thanks to open data sharing by
@CDCgov
, we've updated https://nextstrain.org/ncov with 3 #nCoV2019 genomes sampled in California on Jan 29 (in grey below). Two are identical, and one branches from a Guangdong cluster."
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FRESH FROM WANGA/MASTERLUC TELEGRAM:

P.S.: Never seen him write so much. Weird. I am not going to opine on it. Bleh.

The only relevant information about halvings are that Chinese scammers who have a centralized monopoly on mining and selling mining machines have an incentive to attempt to rig the price upwards to continue the profitability of their monopoly scam rather than turning the miners off.  Then others like the Winklevoss who have attained a monopoly on supply have an incentive to try and help them do so.  So it's a crowd sourced pump and dump scam.  But these actors still have to gauge if there's any actual buyers (fools) for their pump and dump or it just implodes when they try to rig it and they lose a bunch of money.
legendary
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I'm bored

By which parasite - mites, jiggers, hookworms?
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"

Pretty much what we’ve discussed here ourselves, including the numbers there.

What do you think buddy, what’s your estimated top of this coming bull run?

I feel a little bit more bullish than that.
In mic's contest I voted for 25,000 by halving. This means ATH before halving, this is going to be a little bit stretchted seeing where are we stand right now.
However, we know how it happens: slowly at start, then all of a sudden.

This can be achieved if there's a daily gain of 1.1% on the BTC/USD price.

Not impossible, but if it happens, it will probably be as you say, slow --> sudden. Regardless, I think 2020 will be a good year for Bitcoin, with 2021 breaking 6 figures. The main thing is not to reach it, but to sustain it.

I'd say, keep HoDLing throughout '20-'21 at least.

This is fine.

Don't mean to be a party poop..... well maybe I do?

What if the BTC price shoots up to $85k-ish by the end of 2020... but then corrects back down to $25k for the duration of 2021 and maybe into 2022... then what are the HODLer "waiting to sell some BTC" peeps gonna do when king daddy does not perform up to expectations?  

Maybe they start to feel that they did not sell enough BTC on the way up to $85k-ish? or they did not sell any?
 and then they feel that they missed the opportunity, again?  

Maybe even having to wait a few more years for the next price splurger into 2023-25--?   who knows... patterns can be broken, no?  Perhaps?  Perhaps?
legendary
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I looked closely and realised they're using the Formant analogue synth, from Elektor magazine! I wanted to build this when I was in my early teens! I still have (some of) the original Elektor magazines.

Wow! Just WOW!
copper member
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Clueless!
I'm bored

I'm bored, reading your boring post above....yawn....(lobs it back at you)

dismal cycle boredom Sad

edit: good point above

We should not be complaining about nearly a 6 week pump from $7,175 to $10,200 (about 42%)

maybe I'm just dull and not bored? Sad

legendary
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GOOD morning guys.

This is fine. In fact it is more than fine... this is being one of the most beautiful and smooth "pumpenings" ever. Wouldn't even mind if it were to retest $9K or even high $8K to scare the shit out of any remaining weak hands before going on.

So far, so good.

Exactamente!!!!!

We should not be complaining about nearly a 6 week pump from $7,175 to $10,200 (about 42%) or even going from about 8 weeks at the December 17 bottom of $6,424 (which would be nearly 59%).

Sure, there was a blip of a correction in the $8,xxxs, but overall, we have not really had any meaningful correction, so how can that NOT be good?

I am not saying that we have to have a correction in order to resume UPPITY, but having some kind of correction or flat period is NOT exactly out of expectations or even bearish... even though did I not hear some sorcerer wannabes proclaiming that we were never going to see 4 digits again?  Yeah right.... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

I would like to get out of 4 digits too, and to forever stay out of 4 digits, but also seems to be a lot of froth coming with us from the alt coin (aka shitcoin) scene.. so I am not sure if that altcoin pumpening is healthy... but either way, bitcoin probably does not give too many shits, even though there could be both dragging effects but also slingshot effects too, so some of these dynamics with the shitcoins can cut either way in terms of their short term effects on BTC prices.
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The recent events of the epidemic that has killed so many people in China, has caused many to put Bitcoin as a refuge from value.



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“Technically the structure’s bias is bullish as long as price doesn’t lose $9,150,” said Teddy Cleps, a market analyst at Crypto Freak Network. “Price has a decent margin to retrace and mark another higher high, and thus continue its growth.”

Source:https://www.newsbtc.com/2020/02/10/bitcoin-dips-on-profit-taking-but-fundamentals-show-its-parabolic-rally-is-not-finished/

Behold, according to some analysts, Bitcoin and Gold continue to rise despite the outlook in the world, some speak of correlation even.

It is well known that the correlation is low between the two .. only that it can be taken as an important fundamental that can be exploited in the market.


Correlating investing in safe haven assets during times of uncertainty is normal and it's an especially important place to watch with Bitcoin. The reality is that most of the world simply does not care about Bitcoin or much at all for that matter, all they want is to continue to live the 'normal' life they've been afforded for the past 7 decades or so.  It's my belief that harsh events must challenge the masses 'normal' way of living and force change. Bitcoin adoption as a safe haven asset will continue during global crisis but I'm afraid the absence of such events will allow the herd to slip back into an apathetic slumber.
It appears that greed has mostly powered the Bitcoin market thus far and as much as I'd like to think that it would be convenience that ushers it forward from here, fear is the more likely motivator.  Most great changes have been born of great tragedies. If Bitcoin is to be as revolutionary as we speak of, I don't see why it would be any different this time.
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Bce вoт кpичaт: xaлвинг,xaлвинг (halvening). И в кoммeнтax пoд мoими идeями бpeдят им. Taк вoт, cвeжий взгляд. Имeю нaглocть зaявить, чтo xaлвинг, кaк cкaляpнoe coбытиe, нe влияeт нa гpaфик цeны вooбщe никaк. Двa пpeдыдyщиx xaлвингa я пepeживaл и нaблюдaл. Booбщe нoль нa мaccy. Toчки xaлвингa пoпaдaют в coвepшeннo cлyчaйныe мecтa paзныx тpeндoв. И ничeгo нe вызывaют, дaжe мaлeйшeй peaкции pынкa, нecмoтpя нa вceoбщий aжиoтaж и фyндaмeнтaльнocть coбытия.

Знaeтe, нaвepнoe этo фeнoмeн дaжe. Ho oбъяcнeниe ecть. Xaлвинг этo пpиpoдa биткoинa, тaкoe мeтaфизичecкoe явлeниe, кoтopoe coздaёт eгo cyть и пpoявлeниe кoтopoгo нeльзя oтыcкaть нa пoвepxнocти.  Xaлвинг пpoявляeтcя в тoм, чтo биткoин дoлгocpoчнo pacтeт. A вecнoй ничeгo ocoбeннoгo вы нe yвидитe.

GOOGLE TRANSLATE:

Everyone is shouting: halving, halving. And in the comments under my ideas rave about them. So, a fresh look. I have the audacity to say that halving, as a scalar event, does not affect the price chart at all. Two previous halving I experienced and observed. Generally zero to ground. Halving points fall into completely random places of different trends. And they do not cause anything, not even the slightest reaction of the market, despite the general excitement and fundamental nature of the event.

You know, this is probably a phenomenon even. But there is an explanation. Halving is the nature of Bitcoin, a metaphysical phenomenon that creates its essence and the manifestation of which cannot be found on the surface. Halving is manifested in the fact that bitcoin is growing for a long time. And in the spring you will not see anything special.


P.S.: Never seen him write so much. Weird. I am not going to opine on it. Bleh.
legendary
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but this guys here run out of competition --> The Analog Session - N5 From Outer Space  Shocked Shocked Shocked

That yellow WASP synth  Shocked
Some other fine vintage stuff right there. Cool old dudes  Cool

the guys seems still alive at least in 2017 --> The Analog Session - N5 From Outer Space (live at Combo Social Club)
legendary
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How is 676BC - 2025AD an "ascending age" when the entire rise and fall of Rome happened in that period and then a dark ages.  That sure doesn't sound like a single, homogeneous age to me.  The only way you can form anything coherent out of that is if you claim Roman bureaucrats founded the Catholic church to try and subvert and rule over populations and that dynasty is somehow still continuing to this day.  But that's obviously not the case when parasitic, evil cult of Judaism members and their central banks have usurped most power structures years ago.

Hitler should read carefully through the whole text: the Kali Yuga (Iron Age) as a whole (descending + ascending) is/was a very dark age until AD 2025. in 2025 after Trump the future will seems very bright for the whole mankind but shortly after the one true GOD will fulfill HIS prophecies.
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