What everybody (of non-rational mind) forgets is that nobody wants to use a coin spearheaded by a known con artist. The adoption barrier is already hard enough to overcome for bitcoin; with its completely unfriendly leadership and Craig's baggage, BSV stands no chance of overcoming it.
We already have a bitcoin. It works just fine. Well enough to the point that nobody needs to use its (first) forked competitor.
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February 07, 2020, 12:55:56 AM
February 07, 2020, 12:48:20 AM
In my opinion it is this:
It is one thing to find an alternative protocol to Bitcoin interesting, or believe in it as an investment.
I don't agree with this view, but people have the right to make choices, even if they ultimately prove to be wrong. Live and let live.
However, going so far as refusing to condemn the objectively indefensible, places someone beyond the possibility of respect. A fellow traveler ceases to be a friend, which is a shame.
Craig Wright's lack of principles and honesty is objectively indefensible. This has been proven in a court of law. He has lied under oath; it is not unreasonable to conclude he lives a tissue of lies.
When any man is obviously of sound mind and intelligent, but still disregards the obvious and will not condemn this plainly malignant, transparent liar, one can only conclude he is either; as corrupt as the man he defends, too egotistical, or too weak and foolish to look in the mirror and admit that he might be wrong.
It is one thing to find an alternative protocol to Bitcoin interesting, or believe in it as an investment.
I don't agree with this view, but people have the right to make choices, even if they ultimately prove to be wrong. Live and let live.
However, going so far as refusing to condemn the objectively indefensible, places someone beyond the possibility of respect. A fellow traveler ceases to be a friend, which is a shame.
Craig Wright's lack of principles and honesty is objectively indefensible. This has been proven in a court of law. He has lied under oath; it is not unreasonable to conclude he lives a tissue of lies.
When any man is obviously of sound mind and intelligent, but still disregards the obvious and will not condemn this plainly malignant, transparent liar, one can only conclude he is either; as corrupt as the man he defends, too egotistical, or too weak and foolish to look in the mirror and admit that he might be wrong.
And again, you conflate my support of BSV with support of CSW. Just no.
Dashjr has stated it is legitimate to kill all non-xtians. Does that taint all of BTC? No. For the person and the coin are two different things.
Do you think TRX and Justin Sun are two different things? Do you think TRX is not tainted by Justin?
If you believe that, then I have some TRX to sell you.
There are plenty of reasons to completely ignore TRX. So I do.
Irrelevant false equivalence is irrelevant.
February 07, 2020, 12:45:30 AM
https://twitter.com/jimmy_wales/status/1225606831898333184
Ouch.
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Your marketing materials need to be updated immediately - as people seem to be reading this as some kind of endorsement from me. I'm coming to speak my mind, which includes that BSV offers nothing for Wikipedia and that there is zero chance we would ever use it.
Ouch.
February 07, 2020, 12:24:42 AM
Official Hong Kong Coronavirus Stats from the Department of Health
https://chp-dashboard.geodata.gov.hk/nia/en.html
https://chp-dashboard.geodata.gov.hk/nia/en.html
February 07, 2020, 12:23:41 AM
Interesting data point;
The PPE section at my local Home Depot looks like something out of Venezuela. The only dust masks left were a few of the most expensive type...big sign "limited to 10 per customer"
The PPE section at my local Home Depot looks like something out of Venezuela. The only dust masks left were a few of the most expensive type...big sign "limited to 10 per customer"
Found the same at my local hardware store. Needed to buy some dust masks for a job I'm starting in the next few weeks. Headed to the PPE section and it was swarmed by Chinese buying boxes at a time. The attendant informed me it has been happening for a few day (apparently they are buying up and sending back home where they're all sold out)
February 07, 2020, 12:22:08 AM
https://www.vaneck.com/globalassets/home/us/insights/blogs/investment-outlook/vaneck-digital-assets--the-investment-case-for-bitcoin.pdf
And I want to try this once at $9265: we will never see bitcoin <$9000 again.
And I want to try this once at $9265: we will never see bitcoin <$9000 again.
Brave, indeed.....
JSRAW... is he correct?
February 06, 2020, 11:53:01 PM
- Coronavirus death toll climbs to 639, 30,811 confirmed cases worldwide, 24,702 suspected cases, 4,664 in serious/critical condition
and 1,337 recovered.
- Japan reports 41 additional cases, for a total of 61 aboard the quarantined cruise ship in Yokohama.
- Senior CCP official orders Wuhan to round up infected residents for mass quarantine camps.
- Taiwan halts visas for citizens of Macau and Hong Kong.
- Germany confirms 13th case.
- UK reports 3rd case of coronavirus
- 2 suspected cases found in South Africa.
- Dubai reports 3rd death outside China.
- Hong Kong schools, kindergartens closed until at least March 2 as coronavirus fears grow, three universities take similar action.
- China to auction 10,000 T of frozen pork from state reserves.
- Millions of chickens at risk amid China lockdowns due to coronavirus.
- 30,000 geese have died because the shut down of the country made it impossible for the farmers to feed the birds.
- The Pentagon is preparing almost a dozen military installations around the country that could be used to house evacuees because of the coronavirus.
- Global supply chain disruptions are happening, it will take some time before it reach the consumer.
- Taiwan bans international cruise ships from docking at the island.
- China plans to lock down Liaoning and Jiangxi provinces placing 140m people under quarantine.
- Chinese doctor Li Wenliang, who was accused of spreading rumors after trying to warn colleagues about coronavirus, has died of the virus.
- Saudi Arabia bans citizens from traveling to China to prevent coronavirus.
- Chinese companies are extending the New Year Holiday(s) until the end of this month.
- China's Wuhan city govt says all residents must report their body temperature once a day.
and 1,337 recovered.
- Japan reports 41 additional cases, for a total of 61 aboard the quarantined cruise ship in Yokohama.
- Senior CCP official orders Wuhan to round up infected residents for mass quarantine camps.
- Taiwan halts visas for citizens of Macau and Hong Kong.
- Germany confirms 13th case.
- UK reports 3rd case of coronavirus
- 2 suspected cases found in South Africa.
- Dubai reports 3rd death outside China.
- Hong Kong schools, kindergartens closed until at least March 2 as coronavirus fears grow, three universities take similar action.
- China to auction 10,000 T of frozen pork from state reserves.
- Millions of chickens at risk amid China lockdowns due to coronavirus.
- 30,000 geese have died because the shut down of the country made it impossible for the farmers to feed the birds.
- The Pentagon is preparing almost a dozen military installations around the country that could be used to house evacuees because of the coronavirus.
- Global supply chain disruptions are happening, it will take some time before it reach the consumer.
- Taiwan bans international cruise ships from docking at the island.
- China plans to lock down Liaoning and Jiangxi provinces placing 140m people under quarantine.
- Chinese doctor Li Wenliang, who was accused of spreading rumors after trying to warn colleagues about coronavirus, has died of the virus.
- Saudi Arabia bans citizens from traveling to China to prevent coronavirus.
- Chinese companies are extending the New Year Holiday(s) until the end of this month.
- China's Wuhan city govt says all residents must report their body temperature once a day.
February 06, 2020, 10:37:44 PM
Here's the picnic bear at it again.
TL;DR jbreher argues big blocks with byzantine precision and aggressively low intellectual honesty. Beware: he's good at it.
Correct. BSV is just as decentralized as BTC. Craig's escapades notwithstanding. As they are irrelevant from the standpoint of the protocol and the chain.
Craig's escapades are indeed irrelevant to the protocol. Which, in a world of infinite straight lines and dimensionless points, has just as much centralization as BTC. However, in a world where there's a positive lower bound to the cost of resources, keeping verification costs near that lower bound conflicts with the number of lanes in the highway, so to say. Small vs big blocks becomes a matter of politics, or better said religion.
TL;DR jbreher argues big blocks with byzantine precision and aggressively low intellectual honesty. Beware: he's good at it.
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain! He's only the chief scientist of the protocol and self proclaimed creator, a patent troll who copyrighted the whitepaper and trying to build a patent forest around the tech, other than that BSv is as decentralized as bitcoin. Keep trying to preach new n00bs in. Even in his best case scenario miners will just go behind tor, then who he's going to sue? But go ahead go fight the internet that always turns out well 
Correct. BSV is just as decentralized as BTC. Craig's escapades notwithstanding. As they are irrelevant from the standpoint of the protocol and the chain.
Craig's escapades are indeed irrelevant to the protocol. Which, in a world of infinite straight lines and dimensionless points, has just as much centralization as BTC. However, in a world where there's a positive lower bound to the cost of resources, keeping verification costs near that lower bound conflicts with the number of lanes in the highway, so to say. Small vs big blocks becomes a matter of politics, or better said religion.
February 06, 2020, 10:09:29 PM
naah
10K Tuesday or Wednesday
10K Tuesday or Wednesday
I can't stay up that late! I'm going to bed
February 06, 2020, 09:49:09 PM
It would be great before Halving to see the price of Bitcoin at $ 15.8k..
Twitter: https://twitter.com/CryptoNewsKing/status/1225591365419126784
Source: https://cryptonewsking.com/2020/02/06/why-this-top-analyst-says-bitcoin-may-hit-15800-before-2020-halving/
Quote
Why This Top Analyst Says Bitcoin May Hit $15,800 Before 2020 Halving - https://cryptonewsking.com/2020/02/06/why-this-top-analyst-says-bitcoin-may-hit-15800-before-2020-halving/ - -
Twitter: https://twitter.com/CryptoNewsKing/status/1225591365419126784
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“We can see that the pre halving ultimate top was around $800, or the 78.6% fib retracement. While history never repeats but often rhymes, this would actually put a top in around $15.8k.”
Source: https://cryptonewsking.com/2020/02/06/why-this-top-analyst-says-bitcoin-may-hit-15800-before-2020-halving/
Personally I believe that anything close to $15.8k would be a bit too bullish before the halvening, and i would consider $12k to $13k to be more reasonable, but we also know that bitcoin does not tend to be reasonable once the momentum gets going, it can become a bit out of control, so yeah $15.8k could be possible, but then so could a surge up to $17.5k and then a retrace back down to $11k or $12k.
February 06, 2020, 09:45:36 PM
Interesting data point;
The PPE section at my local Home Depot looks like something out of Venezuela. The only dust masks left were a few of the most expensive type...big sign "limited to 10 per customer"
The PPE section at my local Home Depot looks like something out of Venezuela. The only dust masks left were a few of the most expensive type...big sign "limited to 10 per customer"
February 06, 2020, 09:35:15 PM
Orange coin go up
February 06, 2020, 08:45:53 PM
It would be great before Halving to see the price of Bitcoin at $ 15.8k..
Twitter: https://twitter.com/CryptoNewsKing/status/1225591365419126784
Source: https://cryptonewsking.com/2020/02/06/why-this-top-analyst-says-bitcoin-may-hit-15800-before-2020-halving/
Quote
Why This Top Analyst Says Bitcoin May Hit $15,800 Before 2020 Halving - https://cryptonewsking.com/2020/02/06/why-this-top-analyst-says-bitcoin-may-hit-15800-before-2020-halving/ - -
Twitter: https://twitter.com/CryptoNewsKing/status/1225591365419126784
Quote
“We can see that the pre halving ultimate top was around $800, or the 78.6% fib retracement. While history never repeats but often rhymes, this would actually put a top in around $15.8k.”
Source: https://cryptonewsking.com/2020/02/06/why-this-top-analyst-says-bitcoin-may-hit-15800-before-2020-halving/
February 06, 2020, 08:27:54 PM
naah
10K Tuesday or Wednesday
10K Tuesday or Wednesday
February 06, 2020, 08:20:49 PM
Do we think 10k is in the cards this fine evening?
Define "fine evening"
You talking UTC because evening is over.
You must be west coast, USA? or in one of those time zones.
Gonna be a stretch to get to $10k before midnight (in the next 4 to 7 hours).... but hey, I determined my response to your post by throwing a dart at the wall(observer)
Yeah, it's officially night here but I've noticed over the years that rallies tend to happen right at my normal bedtime forcing me to stay up later than I should. I'm expecting a rally any minute now.
February 06, 2020, 08:09:50 PM
Do we think 10k is in the cards this fine evening?
Define "fine evening"
You talking UTC because evening is over.
You must be west coast, USA? or in one of those time zones.
Gonna be a stretch to get to $10k before midnight (in the next 4 to 7 hours).... but hey, I determined my response to your post by throwing a dart at the wall(observer)
February 06, 2020, 08:01:38 PM
Do we think 10k is in the cards this fine evening?
February 06, 2020, 07:20:54 PM
I don’t know, near 100K I think no one of us talks about the price anymore, more where to visit etc or how to life carefully etc
What mistakes not to make etc
What mistakes not to make etc
Are you certain?
I will be moving around in one these pulled by 15-20 drag queens.
I am likely to be seeking employment at that time
You surely are pessimistic today, Globb0. I think that you need to attempt to follow the mindrust methodology.. Yeah, he is a bit of a pessimistic fuck too, sometimes, but in the last year, he has been buying BTC whenever and hoping for BTC's price to go down so he can buy MOAR... Yeah, a bit irritating to be hearing him hoping for down while preparing for UP, yet he still seems to be a happy fuck, even though the BTC price is going up.
So, in the end, if you error on the side of keeping on accumulating BTC, BTC's price will ultimately resolve your pessimism with its going up, like we are experiencing now and like we have been experiencing since mid-December ... I mean, we are largely up more than 50% since our mid-December price of $6,424...
If you are playing around with King Daddy, on the other hand, and not erring on the side of accumulating BTC and overstacking for UP, then you are bound to fuck up and even cause your own increased levels of stress and pessimism.. .Better to err on the side of BTC's prices going up and not selling BTC nor shorting king daddy.
February 06, 2020, 07:11:17 PM
Luke jr is a piece of work, no doubt about that.
February 06, 2020, 07:01:27 PM
In my opinion it is this:
It is one thing to find an alternative protocol to Bitcoin interesting, or believe in it as an investment.
I don't agree with this view, but people have the right to make choices, even if they ultimately prove to be wrong. Live and let live.
However, going so far as refusing to condemn the objectively indefensible, places someone beyond the possibility of respect. A fellow traveler ceases to be a friend, which is a shame.
Craig Wright's lack of principles and honesty is objectively indefensible. This has been proven in a court of law. He has lied under oath; it is not unreasonable to conclude he lives a tissue of lies.
When any man is obviously of sound mind and intelligent, but still disregards the obvious and will not condemn this plainly malignant, transparent liar, one can only conclude he is either; as corrupt as the man he defends, too egotistical, or too weak and foolish to look in the mirror and admit that he might be wrong.
It is one thing to find an alternative protocol to Bitcoin interesting, or believe in it as an investment.
I don't agree with this view, but people have the right to make choices, even if they ultimately prove to be wrong. Live and let live.
However, going so far as refusing to condemn the objectively indefensible, places someone beyond the possibility of respect. A fellow traveler ceases to be a friend, which is a shame.
Craig Wright's lack of principles and honesty is objectively indefensible. This has been proven in a court of law. He has lied under oath; it is not unreasonable to conclude he lives a tissue of lies.
When any man is obviously of sound mind and intelligent, but still disregards the obvious and will not condemn this plainly malignant, transparent liar, one can only conclude he is either; as corrupt as the man he defends, too egotistical, or too weak and foolish to look in the mirror and admit that he might be wrong.
And again, you conflate my support of BSV with support of CSW. Just no.
Dashjr has stated it is legitimate to kill all non-xtians. Does that taint all of BTC? No. For the person and the coin are two different things.
Do you think TRX and Justin Sun are two different things? Do you think TRX is not tainted by Justin?
If you believe that, then I have some TRX to sell you.
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