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The next halving has had no effect on the price - how could it since it hasn't happened yet? its a year away, so an argument can't even be made that its speculation effect of increased halving price.

Arguments can be made; they are made all the time, including an argument that efficient markets "price in" future known events, so since the halvening is a known event, the question becomes a matter of how much it is priced in rather than whether it is priced in.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Let's face it. Bright/Dumb/Clueless/Newbie...at this point of adoption of Bitcoin we are just kinda 'winging it', as they say.

Just not enough info. Most of us I think are running on what info we think we may glean from all this and our 'gut' feelings on Bitcoin and such.

Chump or Champ.

We will be the first to know I guess.

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The next halving has had no effect on the price - how could it since it hasn't happened yet? its a year away, so an argument can't even be made that its speculation effect of increased halving price.

Arguments can be made; they are made all the time, including an argument that efficient markets "price in" future known events, so since the halvening is a known event, the question becomes a matter of how much it is priced in rather than whether it is priced in.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Ya'll ready for a gap up  Wink
Just a feeling or maybe its the summer beer.  Good days ahead! HODL
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Said the guy who didn't buy at $290 after the run from $210. He was right too - for awhile.
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Did litecoin (the tail) tell you to say that about the dog?



 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I couldn't resist.   Tongue Tongue

not this time

LTC been sucking dog balls lately
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The current price is nothing more than supply and demand. Just think what will happen with 6.25 btc per block instead of 12.5.
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Don't mind asking just for learning have not an idea Bitcoin Halving, already Bitcoin Halving Countdown is running now https://www.bitcoinblockhalf.com/ many of trader said her different Opinion.
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We have main engine start
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Cleared the towers
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The next halving has had no effect on the price - how could it since it hasn't happened yet? its a year away, so an argument can't even be made that its speculation effect of increased halving price.
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Did litecoin (the tail) tell you to say that about the dog?



 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I couldn't resist.   Tongue Tongue
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Where else but the WO for proper analysis?

tea leaves? reading goats entrails?.... or how about that magic eight ball thingy?

Anything for an edge, mate.  Mind you, Binance has probably already read this by now and is quietly cornering the fresh goat market.
Yesterday bitcoin spike but binance exchanger market total Altcoin down right now last 8-hour recovery some of coin.

Does Bitcoin spike depend on Bitcoin Halving?


I think that a lot of people believe that bitcoin's halvening plays a decently strong role in keeping upwards price pressures that of course become somewhat more material after the halvening takes place - but also there is likely some investor intentions to front load their BTC holdings in anticipation of the halvening.

On the other hand, bitcoin's price is no one trick pony, so in that regard a lot of factors come together in order to influence its price including but not limited to a variety of network effects and momentum.
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Where else but the WO for proper analysis?

tea leaves? reading goats entrails?.... or how about that magic eight ball thingy?

Anything for an edge, mate.  Mind you, Binance has probably already read this by now and is quietly cornering the fresh goat market.
Yesterday bitcoin spike but binance exchanger market total Altcoin down right now last 8-hour recovery some of coin.

Does Bitcoin spike depend on Bitcoin Halving?
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Please tell me that you have already diversified some of that capital - at the very least - into prostitutes & drugs.
Solid investment, much like Jimbo's teeth. Grin

I thought that you were ignoring me (and or hating on me) ...  so a bit surprised that you engaged.. since the last time you engaged with me, was filled with a decent amount of slanders thrown in my direction....   hahahahaha

Anywhooo....

I did get a little bit worried in late 2016 and early 2017 when my BTC investment started to approach the value of my 401k, and furthermore through 2017 to surpass the value of my remaining other investments including my 401k that I had largely accumulated through my life (largely my investments of more than 20 years of my adult life), but I had already come to the conclusion that  I felt that I had sufficiently adjusted for a decent amount of my risk by carrying out my system of systematically selling in the ballpark of 1% of my BTC stash for every 10% that the BTC price goes up.

Of course, I could have chosen a different amount of shaving off of profits, and surely,  there could be some problems with using that accumulated capital to buy back BTC in the event that BTC prices goes down (which any of us in BTC for any decent period of time have witnessed that one of the most inevitable things in bitcoin is its price volatility).

I had another issue in early 2017 and that was that I had suffered a sims port hack, so in that regard, there were some problems with loss of BTC through that, yet BTC's price appreciation had still caused my BTC investment to perform in an overall manner that continued to provide a sufficient amount of equity cushion, such as the current 15x status, that I concluded that I was comfortable with the way that my various investments were spread out.  On the other hand, I do have a plan that in the coming years, I am likely going to begin to liquidate 1% per quarter of my BTC value so long as BTC's price are at least greater than $5k.  There might be some factors that could cause me to shave off more value, including digging into my BTC principle, such as feelings that I might NOT live long enough, or maybe if I feel that I need teeth, something like what Jimbo decided.  

Certainly, I don't feel overly diversified into bitcoin, and surely when BTC prices dropped into the lower $3ks, that is not a good feeling, but at that time my portfolio was still decently UP.. and surely with bitcoin some of us have experienced much more dire corrections than that relative to our own levels of investment, including my portfolio valued at about 65% in the red.. or only 35% of my investment amount during the dip times of 2014/15, so that felt worse in absolute lack of a cushion terms and also in terms of the level of then bitcoin development.. sure, I still felt positive about bitcoin, but a lot of people were suggesting that I cut my losses, etc ..etc.. and I largely held and I would buy from time to time, with what seemed to have been a then constrained cashflow, too.. and questions about whether I should be investing more into something that was already largely in the red for me.

So, it is difficult to be so worried under these kinds of circumstances, even if my percentage of total assets is decently high in bitcoin which causes my net worth to fluctuate on a fairly regular basis a whole hell of a lot more than what I had been previously accustomed to.  

By the way, I was just thinking about this earlier today... in which when BTC prices were in the $8k to $9k territory, and Hairymcbeary was stating that his net worth (or something like that) had reached an ATH which was in part attributed to some of his fortunes from the latest bitcoin dip down to $3k and its return back up and his ability to take advantage of such a dip.  For me, I am tentatively thinking that BTC prices have to return back over $17k for me to be at an ATH in terms of my own personal wealth, so perhaps some folks have better abilities to take advantage of bear markets, yet I am thinking that maybe I am experiencing various kinds of expenses in my life too, and I am inadvertently consuming some of my wealth along the way?  In any event, even though I attempt to monitor where I am at, I do attempt to enjoy my level of wealth, I feel that I have a cushion of wealth that is much beyond my expectations of where I thought that I would be at this stage of my life, even while I try not to be too preoccupied regarding possible mistakes that I make here and there because the projection of bitcoin prices seems that it is going to cause additional upside appreciations and a decent amount of abilities to indulge and to overspend and even to make a decent number of mistakes without necessarily thinking about whether I am being cautionary enough or frugal enough which was a everpresent pattern for the vast majority of my pre-bitcoin life.
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Tulips will still grow every year for half a century, went to tulips is not such a great insult imo.    Tulips cant securely contain transactions globally though so likely not reflecting the same dynamics, different market commodities tbh :p

A backup is a good idea but I'd also mention alot of pensions are liable to payout a figure related to whatever the future dollar value might be, that could possibly really suck if it were just bound to nominal payouts.   The government will never measure inflation correctly as it would too often put GDP into the negative.   Also pensions have a kind of soft default where they reference improving life spans, so now your retirement age gets bumped up.   Not every person has perfect health near an average and so some will never get their pension.   401k is a good idea to keep your hands out of the honey pot but also its full of rules that might easily put a person at a disadvantage.  
   The full measure of extremism on this subject would be to foresee that all 401k (or similar pension schemes around the world) given they had tax breaks, are in future forced to buy exclusively government debt.   The largest holders of QE programs ongoing debt are government pension schemes, afaik they are the counter and a large one with 50% GDP related to fiscal expenditure.   Hence government can never go broke while it rules the people.   In a democracy this probably should not be happening by force but its a slippery slope.    Japan might be closest to this playing out but also their demographics are broke.

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buy as many different tokens as possible.
Good idea to look before you leap and that doesnt sound like that.    I think POS is a good alternative to POW but not everyone is especially positive on it, if the market finds no great cost or fault in efficiency for POW and BTC then I guess POS wont take off but if it does thats the kind of diversification in crypto I'd expect works rather then this forking stuff.

Proper diversification is a very valid subject, staying within crypto would not really qualify imo.   I'm thinking of entirely separate asset types.   Someone who setups their own ability to purify water off grid has a useful form of diversification I think.   Gold I think will always be relevant, doesnt have to be any large quantity but certainly enough to exchange for food is a reasonable argument for retaining independent value that will last a decade.   Catching the latest fad in whatever price is rising right now is not really diversification.    Silver can help purify water somewhat, I dont view it as too expensive now and it has its uses to be fair     A goat can be diversification Grin

Its a bad idea to be in a market where everyone wants to sell, thats the main reason to use this idea.   Alot of current liquidity is kinda artificial from politics and QE support, it could all be different.   I believe the tides rule us and politics loses its grip to control prices eventually, not trying to be gloomy but I think thats a natural process repeating for longer then any of us have been around
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Please tell me that you have already diversified some of that capital - at the very least - into prostitutes & drugs.
Solid investment, much like Jimbo's teeth. Grin
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