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Now this one Hedge Fund or whatever they are (making bitcoin accessible to more traditional investors) bought themselves some coins (using 2.5 million USD). I don't know when they started the acquisition, but it makes sense it was in January, no?

Now theses dudes also offer to short bitcoin. What keeps a smart contrarian investor to use them to short the shit out of bitcoin at some point?

Ok, speculation-time:

What percentage of the rally was due to them, how many coins do they have and how hard would shit hit the fan should a customer of them borrow the coins and sell them?


Hedge-fund? in Malta?
Are you serious?
"bought themselves some coins (using 2.5 million USD). I don't know when they started the acquisition, but it makes sense it was in January, no?"

NO.

Lol

I suppose they don't have  even one bitcoin
It must be just an other Maddoff.
Definitely e scam IMO.



Care to explain how you arrived at this conclusion? Your supposing they don't even have a single bitcoin doesn't have any substance without any sort of explanation.



I don't care to explain it's obvious!

 
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Could you (or anyone who has the data) please make a graph that shows:

  (total_bid / total_ask) vs. time

and overlay that with a price graph?

It would be interesting to see if it can be used a an indicator for future bitcoin price. I noticed that at the moment total_bid/total_ask = 56.9 BTC/USD (and slowly rising). This number is strikingly close to the bitcoin market price (and it is of the same dimension). It would be interesting to see a graph of historical values of that number, especially how it behaves during the times immediately before a major price drop.



THIS ... +10
(i was looking for something like that but never asked...)
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Now this one Hedge Fund or whatever they are (making bitcoin accessible to more traditional investors) bought themselves some coins (using 2.5 million USD). I don't know when they started the acquisition, but it makes sense it was in January, no?

Now theses dudes also offer to short bitcoin. What keeps a smart contrarian investor to use them to short the shit out of bitcoin at some point?

Ok, speculation-time:

What percentage of the rally was due to them, how many coins do they have and how hard would shit hit the fan should a customer of them borrow the coins and sell them?


Hedge-fund? in Malta?
Are you serious?
"bought themselves some coins (using 2.5 million USD). I don't know when they started the acquisition, but it makes sense it was in January, no?"

NO.

Lol

I suppose they don't have  even one bitcoin
It must be just an other Maddoff.
Definitely e scam IMO.



Care to explain how you arrived at this conclusion? Your supposing they don't even have a single bitcoin doesn't have any substance without any sort of explanation.

donator
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What do you guys think about the evacuation of that big wall from 48.20 to 49.98?

I wish it could be eaten, it's ridiculous to have someone putting out a mere 10,000 BTC messing with the market like that.

I volunteer to buy it. Will pay $475 000. Terms: can be paid according to my choice in USD bank wire, or gold and silver at market value on settlement date (spot price + 5% fabrication charge because it is in investment products).

Both parties escrow $25 000 with a reputable old world agency.

The BTC and (mostly) silver will change hands in smaller increments so that there is no fraud risk.

Anyone?

ADD (edited): This is a preliminary non-binding proposal. If you are interested, PM me. I hope we could lock-in the price now and arrange the delivery of metals in 2 weeks time. I also have a bank vault in Estonia where some of the metal is currently. www.silverbank.net. If you don't want to take delivery of all of it just yet, it can stay in the vault until you are clear, or you can just become our depository customer. Note: I'm offering this silver up to 8% cheaper than the current market value in Estonia and 12% cheaper than that in Finland. If you prefer Euro to USD, that is even easier for me. Approximately 1/3 or half of the price would be in cash and the rest in metals.
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Now this one Hedge Fund or whatever they are (making bitcoin accessible to more traditional investors) bought themselves some coins (using 2.5 million USD). I don't know when they started the acquisition, but it makes sense it was in January, no?

Now theses dudes also offer to short bitcoin. What keeps a smart contrarian investor to use them to short the shit out of bitcoin at some point?

Ok, speculation-time:

What percentage of the rally was due to them, how many coins do they have and how hard would shit hit the fan should a customer of them borrow the coins and sell them?


Hedge-fund? in Malta?
Are you serious?
"bought themselves some coins (using 2.5 million USD). I don't know when they started the acquisition, but it makes sense it was in January, no?"

NO.

Lol

I suppose they don't have  even one bitcoin
It must be just an other Maddoff.
Definitely e scam IMO.

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yes
What do you guys think about the evacuation of that big wall from 48.20 to 49.98?

I wish it could be eaten, it's ridiculous to have someone putting out a mere 10,000 BTC messing with the market like that.

Luring in suckers.
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What do you guys think about the evacuation of that big wall from 48.20 to 49.98?

I wish it could be eaten, it's ridiculous to have someone putting out a mere 10,000 BTC messing with the market like that.
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What do you guys think about the evacuation of that big wall from 48.20 to 49.98?

The delay of the inevitable.
zby
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What do you guys think about the evacuation of that big wall from 48.20 to 49.98?
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Over $5 mil in visible orderbook.



Could you (or anyone who has the data) please make a graph that shows:

  (total_bid / total_ask) vs. time

and overlay that with a price graph?

It would be interesting to see if it can be used a an indicator for future bitcoin price. I noticed that at the moment total_bid/total_ask = 56.9 BTC/USD (and slowly rising). This number is strikingly close to the bitcoin market price (and it is of the same dimension). It would be interesting to see a graph of historical values of that number, especially how it behaves during the times immediately before a major price drop.

http://blockchained.com/
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A fast rise will undoubtedly lead to a correction eventually, that is clear. It would defy all market behaviour in history if it didn't. However, the 2011 situation was different. First of all, the rise was pretty much all hype based on the idea of this new cryptocurrency. There was no economy to speak of, except Silk Road that had just started. There were literally only a few Bitcoin companies in the whole world, and merchants such as Alpaca Socks accepting bitcoins. Then the hype went down, and security problems ran rampant within the community, leading to a total crash.

We might be seeing a correction, but that is different from a total crash. Totally different. The Bitcoin economy today is 10 times more mature than it was during the 2011 hype. We have dozens of Bitcoin startups all over the world. Silk Road is huge compared to what it used to be. Bitcoin is becoming widely accepted online, for pretty much any service one can imagine. We have VC's and Hedge Funds starting to invest in bitcoins and Bitcoin companies. Security of Bitcoin exchanges, while not perfect, is at a very high level compared to the past.

Fear of a larger crash is, at this moment, entirely unfounded. It's the definition of FUD. A large majority of market players do know this, and they're simply figuring out how deep the correction will be. The backbone of the economy becomes stronger every day, leading to a higher bottom price. This doesn't mean we don't have significant corrections, the market can still go to an overdrive. There is always the point where it's too much, regardless of where we're at, but my personal opinion is that with what is going on in the economy, any price below $50 is not a bad entry point for buyers, unless they're thinking super short term.

Now this one Hedge Fund or whatever they are (making bitcoin accessible to more traditional investors) bought themselves some coins (using 2.5 million USD). I don't know when they started the acquisition, but it makes sense it was in January, no?

Now theses dudes also offer to short bitcoin. What keeps a smart contrarian investor to use them to short the shit out of bitcoin at some point?

Ok, speculation-time:

What percentage of the rally was due to them, how many coins do they have and how hard would shit hit the fan should a customer of them borrow the coins and sell them?
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https://youengine.io/
Over $5 mil in visible orderbook.



Could you (or anyone who has the data) please make a graph that shows:

  (total_bid / total_ask) vs. time

and overlay that with a price graph?

It would be interesting to see if it can be used a an indicator for future bitcoin price. I noticed that at the moment total_bid/total_ask = 56.9 BTC/USD (and slowly rising). This number is strikingly close to the bitcoin market price (and it is of the same dimension). It would be interesting to see a graph of historical values of that number, especially how it behaves during the times immediately before a major price drop.

420
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Buy and hold.

If you must sell, you'd be incredibly stupid to do so under $46.

I don't think it'd be incredibly stupid. Incredibly stupid was below $36 on the panic.


No, that was unforgivingly stupid.


BITCOIN, BUY ME A CHICKEN SANDWICH

this diserved an LOL so here you

LOL
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look at the gigantic jumps in price it will start making after $56, no doubt the hoarding of bitcoin has finally commenced

There will always be those "big jumps" $10 bucks down the road. Don't worry, there will be walls in our future Tongue
legendary
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look at the gigantic jumps in price it will start making after $56, no doubt the hoarding of bitcoin has finally commenced

the world is our oyster 

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How long will these walls hold? ...



As long as some player with $1 million buys them.. There are 30 million such people in the world, so it'll has to be one of them, or a combination of smaller bidders. My estimate now is that we will reach ATH by Tuesday.
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How long will these walls hold? ...

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This much upward pressure during the weekend.   Shocked

I'm sorry Adam.   Cry
Adam's caught out short again?? Oh, Adam. Adam, Adam, Adam.  Undecided

Adam and Proudhon...
the tragic Heros of the Bitcoin saga

They kept there stance of modesty, their believe in sane and moderate growth
against a herd of braindead, greedy bulls
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33K BTC more to reach 50USD
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every single time some action happens the mtgox sockets go down.  Always right as the price jumps
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