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Topic: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - page 532. (Read 1811613 times)

legendary
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Litecoin is used exactly for 1 thing, mining new litecoins to either sell them for bitcoins or dollars, or to hoard them (which is is highly questionable since it's a Tulip bubble).
... The whole LTC economy is based on people mining new LTC's, it's a dead end loop.

Yes. I came to the same conclusion too.

The first-mover advantage in crypto-currency is absolutely critical. I just can't see mainstream sites offering >1 choices of crypto. The public would see it as a Sony/Betamax or Blu-Ray/HDDVD drama all over again and be annoyed about it.

you guys forget, that by buying ltc with btc
and buying btc back with ltc you wash btc.

LTC is also much faster. We have seen where BTC can take 1 to 2 hours to have just one confirm. Operations that need speed all the time will use LTC.

Why not just a faster BTC like TRC? Something that can already be mined with ASICS and thus secured rather quickly. Bitcoin was relatively safe from attack in the past 4 years of it's growth because no one took it seriously. Now that people realize it's the future, the computational power required to upset it has become exponentially large. Not so with litecoin. It will take a while before someone builds an asic type device for Litecoin, yet Litecoin will not be spared any attention. It's ASIC unfriendly algo means it remains vulnerable longer, in a time when people are already aware of it's potential value. It doesn't have the protection of being dismissed as a silly idea, and the luxury to grow quietly in strength.
legendary
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LTC is also much faster. We have seen where BTC can take 1 to 2 hours to have just one confirm. Operations that need speed all the time will use LTC.

LTC is inherently a threat to the future of BTC, the existence of both is unstable. Either one will win, or neither will.

Wow, there goes my daily does of wtf.
donator
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LTC is inherently a threat to the future of BTC, the existence of both is unstable. Either one will win, or neither will.

Silver is not a threat to gold, on the contrary, the silver:gold ratio has gone from ancient Egyptians' 3:1 to the present 55:1. So gold is a threat to silver, and likewise LTC will stay around but gradually lose its value (denominated in BTC).

Very few perceive silver as a long term value play, similarly few store their wealth in LTC. But it has its uses and speculative value.
legendary
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LTC is also much faster. We have seen where BTC can take 1 to 2 hours to have just one confirm. Operations that need speed all the time will use LTC.

LTC is inherently a threat to the future of BTC, the existence of both is unstable. Either one will win, or neither will.

Just like the Pound, the Euro and the US Dollar, none of them work alongside each other in perfect harmony yet the world manages to survive with all three.

donator
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I'm quite sure Bitcoin will get real competition, but I don't think it's Litecoin. Ripple is something that can truly complement Bitcoin, that is something I'm far more interested in than LTC. It's possible that LTC will get real applications in the future but right now I'm seeing hype with nothing to back it up.

This may be true, but I think litecoin is here to stay. Iiro is a vocal proponent, maybe he has a huuuge stast of LTC that he wants to profit from. I would maybe buy LTC at its support line in .0025, definitely not now.
hero member
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LTC is also much faster. We have seen where BTC can take 1 to 2 hours to have just one confirm. Operations that need speed all the time will use LTC.

LTC is inherently a threat to the future of BTC, the existence of both is unstable. Either one will win, or neither will.
legendary
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Litecoin is used exactly for 1 thing, mining new litecoins to either sell them for bitcoins or dollars, or to hoard them (which is is highly questionable since it's a Tulip bubble).
... The whole LTC economy is based on people mining new LTC's, it's a dead end loop.

Yes. I came to the same conclusion too.

The first-mover advantage in crypto-currency is absolutely critical. I just can't see mainstream sites offering >1 choices of crypto. The public would see it as a Sony/Betamax or Blu-Ray/HDDVD drama all over again and be annoyed about it.

you guys forget, that by buying ltc with btc
and buying btc back with ltc you wash btc.

LTC is also much faster. We have seen where BTC can take 1 to 2 hours to have just one confirm. Operations that need speed all the time will use LTC.

Is there a reason why BTC blocks only refresh every 10 minutes?  The faster confirmation time is the only value I could possibly see in LTC.   Why doesn't BTC just take faster confirmation times?
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Litecoin is used exactly for 1 thing, mining new litecoins to either sell them for bitcoins or dollars, or to hoard them (which is is highly questionable since it's a Tulip bubble).
... The whole LTC economy is based on people mining new LTC's, it's a dead end loop.

Yes. I came to the same conclusion too.

The first-mover advantage in crypto-currency is absolutely critical. I just can't see mainstream sites offering >1 choices of crypto. The public would see it as a Sony/Betamax or Blu-Ray/HDDVD drama all over again and be annoyed about it.

you guys forget, that by buying ltc with btc
and buying btc back with ltc you wash btc.
legendary
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I'm quite sure Bitcoin will get real competition, but I don't think it's Litecoin. Ripple is something that can truly complement Bitcoin, that is something I'm far more interested in than LTC. It's possible that LTC will get real applications in the future but right now I'm seeing hype with nothing to back it up.
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The first-mover advantage in crypto-currency is absolutely critical. I just can't see mainstream sites offering >1 choices of crypto. The public would see it as a Sony/Betamax or Blu-Ray/HDDVD drama all over again and be annoyed about it.

Seeing bitcoin as the only crypto-currency that ever will be widely used is probably a little far-fetched. People thought the same about payment systems some 10 to 15 years ago, but look at it right now, there's plenty of choice from paypal over credit cards to ukash and the like.

Sure, other fledgling crypto-currencies have to have merits on their own if they want to succeed, and i fail to see those merits in LTC. But that does not necessarily mean that no other crypto-currency will be established sometime in the future.
legendary
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Litecoin is used exactly for 1 thing, mining new litecoins to either sell them for bitcoins or dollars, or to hoard them (which is is highly questionable since it's a Tulip bubble).
... The whole LTC economy is based on people mining new LTC's, it's a dead end loop.

Yes. I came to the same conclusion too.

The first-mover advantage in crypto-currency is absolutely critical. I just can't see mainstream sites offering >1 choices of crypto. The public would see it as a Sony/Betamax or Blu-Ray/HDDVD drama all over again and be annoyed about it.
legendary
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If LTC rises faster than BTC at this time, it's a Tulip bubble. Trust me on this. People aren't really thinking it through, the rise is not based on anything else than technicals. I looked at LTC recently to see if I should diversify my Bitcoin holdings, but I came to the conclusion that there is absolutely nothing to see there. Litecoin is used exactly for 1 thing, mining new litecoins to either sell them for bitcoins or dollars, or to hoard them (which is is highly questionable since it's a Tulip bubble).

Nothing else whatsoever is going on in the Litecoin economy. The technology itself does not have any significant advantages to Bitcoin, making it near impossible for Litecoin to even slightly challenge the network effect of Bitcoin. So, again, you might see LTC price rise temporarily at a higher rate than BTC, but there is nothing real going on. The whole LTC economy is based on people mining new LTC's, it's a dead end loop.
hero member
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Your Minion
gox down, iv not seen a trade in forever...

Is it down? Or just crushed beneath the weight of bids?
Knew I should have bought back in at 46 Sad

I have not seen a trade in 34 mins. I have no idea what is going on. When this happens it is normally bullish but damn Gox... Get your shit together...

f5 up to date trade pic above

Large I apologize.

legendary
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I advocate the Zeitgeist Movement & Venus Project.
Is it page 666 yet?
legendary
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RUM AND CARROTS: A PIRATE LIFE FOR ME
gox down, iv not seen a trade in forever...

Is it down? Or just crushed beneath the weight of bids?
hero member
Activity: 699
Merit: 500
Your Minion
Knew I should have bought back in at 46 Sad

hero member
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Posting on page 666 +1
donator
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Well, looks like someone's wire transfer has just gone through...

Monday morning Europe time! :-)

I used to hate Mondays. Thanks Bitcoin
legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1002
RUM AND CARROTS: A PIRATE LIFE FOR ME
Well, looks like someone's wire transfer has just gone through...

Monday morning Europe time! :-)
legendary
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Merit: 1006
100 satoshis -> ISO code
Holy crap dude...put something in your sig to indicate your nearly unbroken streak of incorrect calls.


Haha, yes. Being wrong so consistently is amazing, and you should certainly wear that badge of honor.

I'm subscribed to his posts so I can sell all my BTC when he gets bullish.

Good plan, and when he gets bearish after that we load up and make a killing!
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