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January 31, 2015, 11:30:20 AM
#28
Why do everybody awaits their golden knight Wallstreet, Winlkevii ETF or other 'big' companies to save them??

Do you really need those fuckers to come? Bitcoin is free, is decentralized, anyone can join. I'd prefer 10,000 new peasants with $100 each instead one big, psychopathic company to join.

I agree with that but on the other hand mainstream adoption will happen faster with Wall Street jumping in.

Ironic isn't it? Makes me start to think that all the idealism I've read about BTC since 2011 was from a bunch of people looking to get rich; that nobody truly cared about decentralization in the first place. It was just a proxy.

BTC (or something like it) will revolutionize the financial industry in the next coming decades. It will also be the greatest and largest data mining operation ever to take place because of the giant companies that will run the show.
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January 31, 2015, 11:24:22 AM
#27
Institutional as well as private investment will not pump the price as they are not buying BTC, they are investing in the infrastructure. Except for guys such as Draper, few are going the way of purchasing. We need fiat to pump the price; aka we need new individuals to buy coins and have existing individuals stop selling them.

Yeah, like better infrastructure is the only thing holding Average Joe back from finally buying some bitcoin.   Roll Eyes

The Average Joes of the world need a MUCH better incentive than that.  Like discounts at Walmart, Auto Zone, Burger King, etc.  Or be able to purchase lotto tickets and cigarettes with bitcoin.

I agree. The average joes don't care about BTC (as of yet) because it simply offers no advantages over traditional payments options. The masses who use technology rarely care about how it works, what it symbolizes or any other thinking surrounding its implementation. They just want to buy it and say they own it/use it if it's cool/high tech/widely used/etc.

BTC could benefit from advertisement: expanding its niche market to larger companies (Walmart as you said) perhaps grocery stores, convenience marts. Right now it costs real fiat money to change your already good USD to BTC. Once in BTC your choices are heavily limited right now. Why would any average joe want to do that?
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January 31, 2015, 12:49:24 AM
#26
If wall street money did come in, it wouldn't really make sense to pump the price up, unless it was to manipulate the price and realize profits. It would make more sense, if I had wall street kind of money, to buy gradually, and then put in big sell orders, and keep buying gradually at lower prices. Also, I would hire hackers to sabotage key exchanges, or even buy them off, and make sure that the hacks are highly publicized. This would reduce confidence in bitcoin in general, and in the meantime I would keep buying up coins. I would also invest simultaneously in one big exchange, so I would be set to profit both from price increases and my share in the one exchange that appears bulletproof and has full governmental approval, and then as soon as my position was large enough, I would drop about $200 million in buy orders, and sell about 25% of that once I felt the market could absorb it.


   It's actually too enticing not to do, and there are probably more than a thousand institutional and individual players who can do it if they want to, and who doesn't want to make half a billion dollars in less than two years with a billion dollar investment? The real madness would come when two or more such players start trying this same strategy at each others expense...

   I mean, I'm just throwing out numbers... if you have that kind of money there are lots of way to get returns on it, but bitcoin really is an exceptional opportunity for big money, and these people didn't get to be on top by being stupid. They know bitcoin is big, and they also know the importance of discretion. They also don't want Satoshi Nakamoto to be richer than them
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January 31, 2015, 12:31:46 AM
#25
Why do everybody awaits their golden knight Wallstreet, Winlkevii ETF or other 'big' companies to save them??

Do you really need those fuckers to come? Bitcoin is free, is decentralized, anyone can join. I'd prefer 10,000 new peasants with $100 each instead one big, psychopathic company to join.

I agree with that but on the other hand mainstream adoption will happen faster with Wall Street jumping in.
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January 31, 2015, 12:27:18 AM
#24
Why do everybody awaits their golden knight Wallstreet, Winlkevii ETF or other 'big' companies to save them??

Do you really need those fuckers to come? Bitcoin is free, is decentralized, anyone can join. I'd prefer 10,000 new peasants with $100 each instead one big, psychopathic company to join.
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January 30, 2015, 09:55:08 AM
#23
Wall Street pump won't happen overnight. They will first start by slowly dipping their toes. Like we all did. Expect a long period of stability/boringness prior that.
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January 30, 2015, 09:16:39 AM
#22
What delusional bears don't see coming:



  Grin


I don't get it Huh

Wall street coming to eat us all.

They aren't a bunch of idiots. They aren't gonna just buy it all when they see it in a downtrend. That's just bad investing.
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January 30, 2015, 09:15:39 AM
#21
Institutional as well as private investment will not pump the price as they are not buying BTC, they are investing in the infrastructure. Except for guys such as Draper, few are going the way of purchasing. We need fiat to pump the price; aka we need new individuals to buy coins and have existing individuals stop selling them.

Yeah, like better infrastructure is the only thing holding Average Joe back from finally buying some bitcoin.   Roll Eyes

The Average Joes of the world need a MUCH better incentive than that.  Like discounts at Walmart, Auto Zone, Burger King, etc.  Or be able to purchase lotto tickets and cigarettes with bitcoin.
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January 30, 2015, 08:34:07 AM
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January 30, 2015, 08:03:42 AM
#19
Institutional as well as private investment will not pump the price as they are not buying BTC, they are investing in the infrastructure. Except for guys such as Draper, few are going the way of purchasing. We need fiat to pump the price; aka we need new individuals to buy coins and have existing individuals stop selling them.
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January 30, 2015, 08:03:18 AM
#18
Ok let's go to the $1000. Hang on, here we go.


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Nope, nothing happens.
legendary
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January 30, 2015, 07:59:45 AM
#17
When has wall street ever been anything else than a money sink? 

if you expect money to leave that place you are delusional. 

Do you know how much those guys pay for rent and "amenities" over there? 

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January 30, 2015, 07:50:48 AM
#16
Wall Street knows perfectly what bitcoin is it doesn't need an instructional video to know how to buy it  Smiley

But guess what, they are not a bunch of idiots so they don't want it, that's why the price is not getting better, you rocket scientists  Smiley



The only Wall Street thugs that are gonna buy bitcoin are the ones that are gonna baghold it, like Tim Draper, Barry Silbert, Brian Kelly and all the others. Already bagholdin' hard.

That's it.
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January 30, 2015, 07:47:30 AM
#15
it happened many time before, interview/article on WSJ site but it didn't affect bitcoin price each time, may be they just ignore this
who know how they react on this
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Clueless!
January 30, 2015, 07:00:44 AM
#14
What delusional bears don't see coming:



  Grin


boy do i hope you are right! i get the irrational up/downs with bitcoin because no one knows wtf is going on..but I mean ...I'd like to see it go up for no particular reason
as fast as it goes down.....in my confused view of things...just to have a level playing field......(hey i'll never figure it out but imho it 'should' be irrational in both directions
in my view!

(well hey a guy can dream)
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January 30, 2015, 06:58:40 AM
#13
Seriously I don't know whether having wall street into the game means good or bad. While bitcoin seriously need fresh funds to lift the price up and making people took notice of it, on the other note, when you have the big boys in, basically it will make the price become even more volatile.
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January 30, 2015, 06:57:44 AM
#12
wall street have said that they will join bitcoin a long time , but still not see any pump coming

in other hand , coin's price are dumping lower and lower
 Cry

It's obvious that they're buying off exchange. Buying/selling on an exchange is pretty stupid anyway because it leaves permanent traces tied to your identity.

It's obvious? How exactly Hyena? I know that you are into Bitcoin to the level of a religiously devoted man, but some proof now and then would be nice.

To me personally, proof is my own actions Cheesy I prefer to do business off exchange when I need actual fiat toilet paper. Also, it's pretty obvious that a millionaire buying in wouldn't want to do it on exchange due to the slippage. If that isn't obvious to you then there's not much for us to discuss.

A gut feeling. Indeed, there's not much more to discuss in that case. Anyways, thanks for clarifying.
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January 30, 2015, 06:50:29 AM
#11
i hope they did it
i hope bitcoin prize drop under 100 dollar
so i will buy more bitcoin..
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January 30, 2015, 06:47:22 AM
#10
The cool kids have already left the party Roll Eyes

I am sure it wasn't the Wall Street chaps who were the wall street people who got into bitcoin when it first came out .
it was more of the people involved in technical stuff .
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January 30, 2015, 06:18:11 AM
#9
I hope...
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