In none of these posts you made reference to Gitian
descriptors ARE the gitian compile instruction files look at highlighted... i will make sure to mention both gitian and github in every text i write, your nitpicking
Okay then
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descriptors ARE the gitian compile instruction files look at highlighted... i will make sure to mention both gitian and github in every text i write, your nitpicking
Okay then
i actually did:
which one of those doesnt answer the question?
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Some altcoin developers struggle to with having a build process for windows and Mac I offer a service to compile it so they can focus on other things if they do not want to use the time to build said environment
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Altcoin need wallets too.. and it seems people have a hard time building a stable invironment to build their wallets so they seek outside help... often they want to pay in some coin... but I would rater be paid in btc.. quite simple
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Basically I offer a service.. they can decide to use it or not. I do not add anything to the source. And if it's uncompileable I will offer to fix the compile descriptors so they can build the files themselves.. or I can compile them. Either way they pay for my services.
which one of those doesnt answer the question?
In none of these posts you made reference to Gitian
descriptors ARE the gitian compile instruction files look at highlighted... i will make sure to mention both gitian and github in every text i write, your nitpicking.. EVERYTHING ABOUT FIXING AND COMPILING is with the goal of compiling via gitian. source files are in github, which is a source code management system.
so, you get paid per post i see, then accounts for the trolling... makes sense...
i actually did:
which one of those doesnt answer the question?
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Some altcoin developers struggle to with having a build process for windows and Mac I offer a service to compile it so they can focus on other things if they do not want to use the time to build said environment
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Altcoin need wallets too.. and it seems people have a hard time building a stable invironment to build their wallets so they seek outside help... often they want to pay in some coin... but I would rater be paid in btc.. quite simple
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Basically I offer a service.. they can decide to use it or not. I do not add anything to the source. And if it's uncompileable I will offer to fix the compile descriptors so they can build the files themselves.. or I can compile them. Either way they pay for my services.
which one of those doesnt answer the question?
In none of these posts you made reference to Gitian
You didn't answer the question
The only one who is trolling here is you
'The only one who is trolling here is you
i actually did:
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Some altcoin developers struggle to with having a build process for windows and Mac I offer a service to compile it so they can focus on other things if they do not want to use the time to build said environment
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Altcoin need wallets too.. and it seems people have a hard time building a stable invironment to build their wallets so they seek outside help... often they want to pay in some coin... but I would rater be paid in btc.. quite simple
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Basically I offer a service.. they can decide to use it or not. I do not add anything to the source. And if it's uncompileable I will offer to fix the compile descriptors so they can build the files themselves.. or I can compile them. Either way they pay for my services.
which one of those doesnt answer the question?
and how can it be trolling in my own thread when your the one questioning EVERYTHING, even though i have explained every detail to you, not once but twice, and we are now heading into the 3rd time...
You didn't answer the question
The only one who is trolling here is you
The only one who is trolling here is you
YOU HAVE NOT REALLY READ ANYTHING HAVE YOU.
I wrote and I will repeat for the last time
I will compile wallet using gitian if your gitian descriptors doesn't work I will fix them and give you the files I have fixed.. then I can compile the wallet and other can do the same and compare OMG.. really get a grip your stumping around in circles it basically doesn't matter what I write it seems like you are here just to troll
I wrote and I will repeat for the last time
I will compile wallet using gitian if your gitian descriptors doesn't work I will fix them and give you the files I have fixed.. then I can compile the wallet and other can do the same and compare OMG.. really get a grip your stumping around in circles it basically doesn't matter what I write it seems like you are here just to troll
Github and Gitian aren't the same thing, so no need for using Caps Lock. You'd better "double check" your own posts before submitting them
Would people be able to compile sources themselves (without your help) and get the same binaries that you made for them after you make changes to what you call gitian descriptors? In other words, they pay you only once, and after that they can compile the wallet on their own? Is this correct?
I do know that they are not the same but you are running around in circles I need the github link for the source that needs to be compiled.. I start gitian with the gitIan descriptors that have the github link inside the text file. Gitian compiles the sources and gives the finished executables if the gitian descriptors do not work I will fix them AND give those to the client that wants their sources compiled. Then I can compile the sources for them.. then other people can use those descriptors that I changed (if they needed to be changed) and compile the same files. Or if they did not needed to be changed other people can use the altcoin original gitian descriptors to compile the same fucking sources. which fucking part is it you do not understand?
In this way, people don't actually need your binaries, they just need that you fix those broken Gitian descriptors, since, if what you say is true, they can easily compile the sources themselves with Gitian ("Gitian compiles the sources and gives the finished executables")...
Is that correct?
Further, I don't quite like words like "deterministic" and "reasonably sure" used in two adjacent sentences. It seems like someone is trying to make things look better than they really are...
Am I overly paranoid here?
Am I overly paranoid here?
Yes you are.
On another note... if you look at the bitcoin/contrib/gitian-descriptiors/gitian-win.yml or Linux.yml or osx.yml then you will notice the build process is for bitcoins bitcoin-click bitcoin-tx and bitcoin-qt
This is the whole build process to build ALLE files including installer files for windows
Then why do we need your service, I don't get it? If someone has already built everything in a "reasonably sure" way?
Altcoin need wallets too.. and it seems people have a hard time building a stable invironment to build their wallets so they seek outside help... often they want to pay in some coin... but I would rater be paid in btc.. quite simple
Edit: I hate my phones autocorrected just saw that it had changed bitcoind to bitcoins and bitcoin-cli to bitcoin-click
see above i already answered your question there!
see circles... again and again, and again....
also here:
Altcoin need wallets too.. and it seems people have a hard time building a stable invironment to build their wallets so they seek outside help... often they want to pay in some coin... but I would rater be paid in btc.. quite simple
Is there an altcoin version of Gitian to "double check" your binary against? Do you actually build wallets in a controlled "deterministic" environment as the concept of Gitian demands (i.e. in a QEMU virtual machine with "faked times")?
Yes to both
Then I don't understand why bother to ask you if people can just download a precompiled binary given they are identical (which is what you basically claim)?
What's the catch?
Let me repeat what I wrote be before but hopefully in a more understandable way...
Some altcoin developers struggle to with having a build process for windows and Mac I offer a service to compile it so they can focus on other things if they do not want to use the time to build said environment
you should really try harder, because you are on your own, building your reputation as a troll, and that can affect your ability to get to be in any sig in the future....
YOU HAVE NOT REALLY READ ANYTHING HAVE YOU.
I wrote and I will repeat for the last time
I will compile wallet using gitian if your gitian descriptors doesn't work I will fix them and give you the files I have fixed.. then I can compile the wallet and other can do the same and compare OMG.. really get a grip your stumping around in circles it basically doesn't matter what I write it seems like you are here just to troll
I wrote and I will repeat for the last time
I will compile wallet using gitian if your gitian descriptors doesn't work I will fix them and give you the files I have fixed.. then I can compile the wallet and other can do the same and compare OMG.. really get a grip your stumping around in circles it basically doesn't matter what I write it seems like you are here just to troll
Github and Gitian aren't the same thing, so no need for using Caps Lock. You'd better "double check" your own posts before submitting them
Would people be able to compile sources themselves (without your help) and get the same binaries that you made for them after you make changes to what you call gitian descriptors? In other words, they pay you only once, and after that they can compile the wallet on their own? Is this correct?
I do know that they are not the same but you are running around in circles I need the github link for the source that needs to be compiled.. I start gitian with the gitIan descriptors that have the github link inside the text file. Gitian compiles the sources and gives the finished executables if the gitian descriptors do not work I will fix them AND give those to the client that wants their sources compiled. Then I can compile the sources for them.. then other people can use those descriptors that I changed (if they needed to be changed) and compile the same files. Or if they did not needed to be changed other people can use the altcoin original gitian descriptors to compile the same fucking sources. which fucking part is it you do not understand?
In this way, people don't actually need your binaries, they just need that you fix those broken Gitian descriptors, since, if what you say is true, they can easily compile the sources themselves with Gitian ("Gitian compiles the sources and gives the finished executables")...
Is that correct?
YOU HAVE NOT REALLY READ ANYTHING HAVE YOU.
I wrote and I will repeat for the last time
I will compile wallet using gitian if your gitian descriptors doesn't work I will fix them and give you the files I have fixed.. then I can compile the wallet and other can do the same and compare OMG.. really get a grip your stumping around in circles it basically doesn't matter what I write it seems like you are here just to troll
I wrote and I will repeat for the last time
I will compile wallet using gitian if your gitian descriptors doesn't work I will fix them and give you the files I have fixed.. then I can compile the wallet and other can do the same and compare OMG.. really get a grip your stumping around in circles it basically doesn't matter what I write it seems like you are here just to troll
Github and Gitian aren't the same thing, so no need for using Caps Lock. You'd better "double check" your own posts before submitting them
Would people be able to compile sources themselves (without your help) and get the same binaries that you made for them after you make changes to what you call gitian descriptors? In other words, they pay you only once, and after that they can compile the wallet on their own? Is this correct?
I do know that they are not the same but you are running around in circles I need the github link for the source that needs to be compiled.. I start gitian with the gitIan descriptors that have the github link inside the text file. Gitian compiles the sources and gives the finished executables if the gitian descriptors do not work I will fix them AND give those to the client that wants their sources compiled. Then I can compile the sources for them.. then other people can use those descriptors that I changed (if they needed to be changed) and compile the same files. Or if they did not needed to be changed other people can use the altcoin original gitian descriptors to compile the same fucking sources. which fucking part is it you do not understand?
YOU HAVE NOT REALLY READ ANYTHING HAVE YOU.
I wrote and I will repeat for the last time
I will compile wallet using gitian if your gitian descriptors doesn't work I will fix them and give you the files I have fixed.. then I can compile the wallet and other can do the same and compare OMG.. really get a grip your stumping around in circles it basically doesn't matter what I write it seems like you are here just to troll
I wrote and I will repeat for the last time
I will compile wallet using gitian if your gitian descriptors doesn't work I will fix them and give you the files I have fixed.. then I can compile the wallet and other can do the same and compare OMG.. really get a grip your stumping around in circles it basically doesn't matter what I write it seems like you are here just to troll
Github and Gitian aren't the same thing, so no need for using Caps Lock. You'd better "double check" your own posts before submitting them
Would people be able to compile sources themselves (without your help) and get the same binaries that you made for them after you make changes to what you call gitian descriptors? In other words, they pay you only once, and after that they can compile the wallet on their own? Is this conclusion correct?
It's says I need the github link to the source that needs compiling but alas you did not really read the text or you do not really know what your attacking
And so what? People ask you to compile a wallet source for them into an executable. The concept of Gitian (which you were so eager to copy-paste here) assumes that wallets are built in a controlled environment, i.e. in a "deterministic" manner (read fully repeatable with the identical outputs). If you don't do that, that is, make your wallet Gitian-ready which "allows multiple builders to create identical binaries", then your reference to Gitian was only meant to confuse. Really, how others can double-check your binary if they don't know how you actually built the wallet beside just knowing that you built it in a virtual machine?
That's the way I see it, whether you like it or not
YOU HAVE NOT REALLY READ ANYTHING HAVE YOU.
I wrote and I will repeat for the last time
I will compile wallet using gitian if your gitian descriptors doesn't work I will fix them and give you the files I have fixed.. then I can compile the wallet and other can do the same and compare OMG.. really get a grip your stumping around in circles it basically doesn't matter what I write it seems like you are here just to troll
It's says I need the github link to the source that needs compiling but alas you did not really read the text or you do not really know what your attacking
And so what? People ask you to compile a wallet source for them into an executable. The concept of Gitian (which you were so eager to copy-paste here) assumes that wallets are built in a controlled environment, i.e. in a "deterministic" manner (read fully repeatable with the identical outputs). If you don't do that, that is, make your wallet Gitian-ready which "allows multiple builders to create identical binaries", then your reference to Gitian was only meant to confuse. Really, how others can double-check your binary if they don't know how you actually built the wallet beside just knowing that you built it in a virtual machine?
That's the way I see it, whether you like it or not
I think your still not reading what I'm writing.
I can compile for windows and for Mac if people need it. I can also fix their gitian descriptors if they do not work.
It's a basic service. What is your problem with that?
I can compile for windows and for Mac if people need it. I can also fix their gitian descriptors if they do not work.
It's a basic service. What is your problem with that?
No, I don't understand what you actually offer. At first you say that you just provide wallet binaries, then you bring about the Gitian argument, which consists in "deterministic build process" approach. If this argument is not contrived, it means that you offer as a service a step-by-step description of the wallet building process in a "reasonably sure" way...
Which by definition implies that the process could be repeated and result in the identical binary
So your saying you do not know what "I will compile your wallets for" means then
Could you rephrase your question? I'm not sure I got what you meant to say. If you mean providing just binaries and getting done with that, it means that your Gitian argument was meant only to obfuscate the matters, since you do nothing in respect to making your compiled wallet Gitian-ready...
That is, ready to be compiled by anyone (for the purpose of double-checking, as you termed it)
Read the OP carefully from a to zoom. If you do not know what service I am providing then your not one that needs my services
I think your still not reading what I'm writing.
I can compile for windows and for Mac if people need it. I can also fix their gitian descriptors if they do not work.
It's a basic service. What is your problem with that?
I can compile for windows and for Mac if people need it. I can also fix their gitian descriptors if they do not work.
It's a basic service. What is your problem with that?
No, I don't understand what you actually offer. At first you say that you just provide wallet binaries, then you bring about the Gitian argument, which consists in "deterministic build process" approach. If this argument is not contrived, it means that you offer as a service a step-by-step description of the wallet building process in a "reasonably sure" way...
Which by definition implies that the process could be repeated and result in the identical binary
So your saying you do not know what "I will compile your wallets for" means then
Could you rephrase your question? I'm not sure I got what you meant to say. If you mean providing just binaries and getting done with that, it means that your Gitian argument was meant only to obfuscate the matters, since you do nothing in respect to making your compiled wallet Gitian-ready...
That is, ready to be compiled by anyone (for the purpose of double-checking, as you termed it)
I think your still not reading what I'm writing.
I can compile for windows and for Mac if people need it. I can also fix their gitian descriptors if they do not work.
It's a basic service. What is your problem with that?
I can compile for windows and for Mac if people need it. I can also fix their gitian descriptors if they do not work.
It's a basic service. What is your problem with that?
No, I don't understand what you actually offer. At first you say that you just provide wallet binaries, then you bring about the Gitian argument, which consists in "deterministic build process" approach. If this argument is not contrived, it means that you offer as a service a step-by-step description of the wallet building process in a "reasonably sure" way...
Which by definition implies that the process could be repeated and result in the identical binary
So your saying you do not know what "I will compile your wallets for" means then
It's says I need the github link to the source that needs compiling but alas you did not really read the text or you do not really know what your attacking
I think your still not reading what I'm writing.
I can compile for windows and for Mac if people need it. I can also fix their gitian descriptors if they do not work.
It's a basic service. What is your problem with that?
I can compile for windows and for Mac if people need it. I can also fix their gitian descriptors if they do not work.
It's a basic service. What is your problem with that?
No, I don't understand what you actually offer. At first you say that you just provide wallet binaries, then you bring about the Gitian argument, which consists in "deterministic build process" approach (i.e. which anyone can reproduce with the same result). If this argument is not contrived, it means that you offer as a service a step-by-step description of the wallet building process in a "reasonably sure" way...
Which by definition implies that the process could be repeated and result in the identical binary (to which you compile)
I will compile your wallets for:
* Windows (BTC 0.05) - which gets you *coind, *coin-qt (dependant on what the coin is based on also *coin-cli *coin-tx) zipped in 32 and 64 bit packages, as well as 32 and 64 bit windows install files
* MacOSX (BTC 0.05) which gets you a DMG image with *coind *coin-qt (dependant on what the coin is based on also *coin-cli *coin-tx)
both for BTC 0.09
send me a PM include github link
Payment via OgNasty Escrow. And and prices are for fully compiled sources. no working executable means no payment.
* Windows (BTC 0.05) - which gets you *coind, *coin-qt (dependant on what the coin is based on also *coin-cli *coin-tx) zipped in 32 and 64 bit packages, as well as 32 and 64 bit windows install files
* MacOSX (BTC 0.05) which gets you a DMG image with *coind *coin-qt (dependant on what the coin is based on also *coin-cli *coin-tx)
both for BTC 0.09
send me a PM include github link
Payment via OgNasty Escrow. And and prices are for fully compiled sources. no working executable means no payment.
This is surely not something that can be construed from the OP
I have added the OP to this post.. it says I can compile wallet
Notice the * in front of the coind coin-cli etc * equals anything
What part of that is it you do not understand?
Let me repeat what I wrote be before but hopefully in a more understandable way...
Some altcoin developers struggle to with having a build process for windows and Mac I offer a service to compile it so they can focus on other things if they do not want to use the time to build said environment
Some altcoin developers struggle to with having a build process for windows and Mac I offer a service to compile it so they can focus on other things if they do not want to use the time to build said environment
So there is no "vanilla" binary to check against, right?
No. But then again anybody is welcome to either compile and double check or hire someone else to compile so that they can double check
So your whole argument about Gitian was fake and contrived given that even "altcoin developers struggle" to have a build process for Windows and Mac, right?
Nope not fake.. now your just jumping to conclusions..
But it's quite challenging to get a decent build environment up and running..
Anyone can given time and trial and error
But your whole thesis on this is still attacking me and I'm still not sure what you think you will accomplice.
I offer a service use it or not I don't care if you need my services then I have set the price it will cost. For usage of my time and computing power. But you cannot apparently comprehend that there is a need for people who knows how to set it up. Nor knows how to fix problems with cross compilation that might arrive. I suggest you do not use any altcoin. Since you might end up running a wallet I have compiled or code I have contributed.
So you are offering a service which is mostly focused on setting up a build environment for a specific coin on Windows and MacOS, not so much on wallet compilation per se. Did I get you right?
This is surely not something that can be construed from the OP
I think your still not reading what I'm writing.
I can compile for windows and for Mac if people need it. I can also fix their gitian descriptors if they do not work.
It's a basic service. What is your problem with that?
Let me repeat what I wrote be before but hopefully in a more understandable way...
Some altcoin developers struggle to with having a build process for windows and Mac I offer a service to compile it so they can focus on other things if they do not want to use the time to build said environment
Some altcoin developers struggle to with having a build process for windows and Mac I offer a service to compile it so they can focus on other things if they do not want to use the time to build said environment
So there is no "vanilla" binary to check against, right?
No. But then again anybody is welcome to either compile and double check or hire someone else to compile so that they can double check
So your whole argument about Gitian was fake and contrived given that even "altcoin developers struggle" to have a build process for Windows and Mac, right?
Nope not fake.. now your just jumping to conclusions..
But it's quite challenging to get a decent build environment up and running..
Anyone can given time and trial and error
But your whole thesis on this is still attacking me and I'm still not sure what you think you will accomplice.
I offer a service use it or not I don't care if you need my services then I have set the price it will cost. For usage of my time and computing power. But you cannot apparently comprehend that there is a need for people who knows how to set it up. Nor knows how to fix problems with cross compilation that might arrive. I suggest you do not use any altcoin. Since you might end up running a wallet I have compiled or code I have contributed.
So you are offering a service which is mostly focused on setting up a build environment for a specific coin wallet on Windows and MacOS, not so much on wallet binary per se. Did I get you right?
This is surely not something that can be construed from the OP
Let me repeat what I wrote be before but hopefully in a more understandable way...
Some altcoin developers struggle to with having a build process for windows and Mac I offer a service to compile it so they can focus on other things if they do not want to use the time to build said environment
Some altcoin developers struggle to with having a build process for windows and Mac I offer a service to compile it so they can focus on other things if they do not want to use the time to build said environment
So there is no "vanilla" binary to check against, right?
No. But then again anybody is welcome to either compile and double check or hire someone else to compile so that they can double check
So your whole argument about Gitian was fake and contrived given that even "altcoin developers struggle" to have a build process for Windows and Mac, right?
Nope not fake.. now your just jumping to conclusions..
But it's quite challenging to get a decent build environment up and running..
Anyone can given time and trial and error
But your whole thesis on this is still attacking me and I'm still not sure what you think you will accomplice.
I offer a service use it or not I don't care if you need my services then I have set the price it will cost. For usage of my time and computing power. But you cannot apparently comprehend that there is a need for people who knows how to set it up. Nor knows how to fix problems with cross compilation that might arrive. I suggest you do not use any altcoin. Since you might end up running a wallet I have compiled or code I have contributed.
Let me repeat what I wrote be before but hopefully in a more understandable way...
Some altcoin developers struggle to with having a build process for windows and Mac I offer a service to compile it so they can focus on other things if they do not want to use the time to build said environment
Some altcoin developers struggle to with having a build process for windows and Mac I offer a service to compile it so they can focus on other things if they do not want to use the time to build said environment
So there is no "vanilla" binary to check against, right?
No. But then again anybody is welcome to either compile and double check or hire someone else to compile so that they can double check
So your whole argument about Gitian was fake and contrived given that even "altcoin developers struggle" to have a build process for Windows and Mac, right?
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