Topic: Wapinter related with Scam? Why he repeat to promote ICO with fake team ? - page 3. (Read 18618 times)

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One question though, are you in any way part of the "Wapinter Bounty Portal" team (you know, the guys with the banned account)?

Since you ask about a shared bounty management account here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/question-for-bitcointalk-staff-3606878
And the very same day, this thread is posted by a member of the WBP team: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/common-shared-account-for-bounty-management-allowed-3603094

The wording is so similar, it's almost...the same.


Is that why you defend Wapinter that much, because you are directly involved here, because you are a member of their team?
Or is there another reason why you have posted the (almost exactly) same thread?
You do not have to answer if it's making you feel uncomfortable.

You are right, managers should do a minimum research, which he probably did, but you are asking here for an extensive research in fact ... make up your mind.

Why people like you exist is a thing which I didn't figure out yet. Throwing mud at a manager who never scammed or endorsed a scammy project makes me wonder on which side you are.

Throwing flames on a forum just for the sake of getting merit points and draw attention is also something that I cannot fully understand, please clear things out for me if you are so kind.

I am probably the most impartial person on this forum, as my life isn't only about this forum or a single person. And this is a statement which I strongly support.

I would like to know if you are having problems getting campaigns to manage here on this forum, because that would explain a lot on why you are throwing mud at a honest person.

P.S. I have worked for various Campaigns and under various Campaign Managers but I have never had problems with any of them. My work was always clean and payment also came as I expected it to come. I also helped to detect lots of scammy ICOs, but I never came here to flame on forum about one or another, I just pointed out the SCAM Projects, which in fact, is the main problem, not the Campaign managers, IMHO.

Nobody is promoting scams, as you can very well see, he closed the campaign.

Yes it can happened with me also. I have no question about exit scam. Recently it's common problem about fake team. Specially taken from Google. This case we found Wapinter 3 bounty. All is same case. It's not minimum responsible to manager check little bit on Google about their team ? My question why same thing happens repeat. There already sign for scam. Even we can't call scam until happen. But there is strong sing.


That's why participant deserve scam.

It is worth pointing out that Wapinter is currently evading a forum ban they have gotten with their alt account Wapinter Bounty Portal.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ban-evasion-wapinter-u-527272-wbp-u-2094446-btvgainer-u-550869-4486093

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Managers should do a minimum of research before they accept a position.
Participants should do their research before they start advertising a project.
Investors should do extended research before sending their money anywhere.

Just because the managers do research, doesn't mean participants should not do their own research anymore (I have discussed that recently with mdayonliner).
Likewise, a manager cannot take themselves out of responsibility by claiming all research has to be done by participants, they should do their own due diligence as well,
as they put their reputation on the line with the positions they take on.

If all three groups (mangers, participants, investors) of people do sufficient and independent research, scams can be found and stopped way earlier than right now,
because the more people check a project, the more likely bad apples like these get found both quickly and reliably.

Currently, third parties that have nothing to do with either group have to point out problems to the managers which then only react, at a point it might already be too late for participants/investors.

Have you ever thought that you idiots who are promoting obvious scams are taking food from many people tables?

I am not sure why a Bounty manager has to be taken responsible for a scammy ICO, I mean before you invest in an ICO you are advised by mostly everyone to do your due diligence, to investigate whether the project is a scam or not, in other words, I hereby advise you all who assimilate SCAM ICOs with good intended and hardworking managers to do your research before participating in a Bounty.

On a personal note, have you ever thought that campaign managers put food on many people tables? Do you think they would risk anyone's financial independence and pick scammy ICOs just for fun? Think again before accusing a bounty manager and throwing mud on his face.

P.S. It can happen to anyone, nobody is perfect. Picking the wrong campaign is just a matter of time, but that doesn't mean you are doing it intentionally.

Somewhere in Tokio....



^^^ this guy has found a way to make all people rich without doing anything. Damn, 40% monthly, I will sell all I have, invest in coinect, compound it and I will become multimillionaire by the end of June 2019. By the end of June 2020. I will be multi billionaire.

On side note, I wonder what is he doing at restaurant...in Tokio...I am pretty sure I read in linkedin that he is in Aberdeen, working hard on coinect project

I couldn't have put it better myself :claps:

I don't think campaign managers have a duty to research the project in as much depth as you suggest.  They're just taking on a job, and when any of us apply for a job we usually assume good faith on the part of the employer.  It also assumes the manager is capable of and has the time to delve into detective work.  I think what you're saying shifts the blame way too much onto the campaign manager's shoulders.  What if there's a critical detail that the manager misses?

If a project turns out to be a scam, and they're in the middle of running a campaign, I think it's enough for a manager to do as Yahoo62278 just did and end the campaign.  Basically it comes down to the question of whether we're assuming a project is a scam until proven otherwise or legitimate until proven to be a scam.  There have been enough scams such that we probably ought to be assuming all ICOs are, but I don't think it's a campaign manager's duty to expose them before taking on the job of manager.

I already got details please check this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coinect-ico-is-a-well-planed-scam-with-fake-team-stay-away-4503041

You're overthinking it. "Dodgy ICO with fake team profiles" == scam. It doesn't matter that the monetary loss has not occurred yet.

Some other shortcuts:

Arbitrage == scam. None of the really successful arbitrageurs need any crowdfunding. They either have a shitload of money already, or they have real investors, or (most likely) they're not really successful. Arbitrage, day-trading, etc are just buzzwords adopted by scammers to deceive people into thinking that there is a magic money making machine.

40% per month, or 0.5% per day, or some other absurd earnings rate == scam. I think that one is obvious. Doesn't matter if the fine print says "not guaranteed". Magic money making machines don't exist.

Any pyramid-shaped structure (MLM, referrals, etc) == scam. Greedy bastards want your money AND the money of your friends and family.

Hey Wapinter, I'll try to shed my opinion on your situation here. If it's possible, could you pretend I'm just a regular user and not your competition (a fellow manager) and I'll try to address this as neutral as possible?

Because, my dear, you've posted their ann threads (without a disclaimer) and you seem to be quite foolish with your selections of ICOs.

Locking a thread a week, 2 weeks after you've posted it doesn't mean you've done your due diligence when taking projects. A respectable manager would be someone who researched the project's team, read the whitepaper, expressed any remaining doubts to the managers of the project, and then, take the project. If you even took an hour of your time to check the team members/whitepaper of the 2 scam icos in op, and taken 10 minutes to think how unachievable coinect is, you would have saved yourself a lot of trouble.

Do you get paid for this? If you get and upfront fee, it would be very profitable for you to take scam icos as a client, get them to pay up, and then turn on them when the forum cops come knocking at your door. If this is the case, I believe there is no turning back for you...

This is all due to the fact that you abused your reputation to promote 2 confirmed scams and 1 very suspicious ico.

Oh no...

You totally messed up here. When a company/freelance such as yourself has a client who they work for online, it is their responsibility to make sure the company is legitimate, and when you are working as a marketing firm/promoter (if you would call yourself that), it is even more your role to do your due dilegence. There shouldn't be a group of people who do research for YOU so YOUR ass doesn't get kicked when they turn sideways, it is your own role and you must take it very seriously.

You promoted them. You posted their thread. So you will share the blame, although definitely not most of it.

Great on you for admitting your mistake, you can improve as a person this way.

Prevention is better than a cure.

You must be. A lot of people are in your bounties and they all trust you.

Haha, this got a bit long, sorry for the rant, this'll be my last consecutive post, so you won't get overloaded with my spam. Great job OP!

Have a great day everyone!

I'll try and ignore the other projects that are either confirmed to be scams, or are being busted right now and focus on coinect.

When I was first tackling the issue, I was going to straight out call it a scam, but after further research and fully understanding the words that were on the website, I wasn't able to call it a scam at first, it was just a very dodgy ico with fake/dodgy team profiles. I could ask them for some other details (more in-depth knowledge about how the code works, but that would be confidential, and they definitely wouldn't hand it over).

They are sort of in a situation where you can't fully prove them illegitimate, and they have an excuse to not fully prove us wrong, so at the end of that, I'd only like one doubt fixed.

What's up with the team coinect? The whole team has 7 connections each on linkdelin and the connections are all your team members. Entering such a huge industry and expecting to raise millions with a rookie team like this would either mean a complete failure or an outright scam. Where are the industry connections? Where is the industry experience? Where are your teams' past experience? Where is your ceo's past work?

EDIT -  more info about coinect

What's your registration number IN THE UK? And maybe post it on your website like legitimate businesses do.

Its standart refferal program. May be before post its better to read some more about partnership programs.





We test our system, but its still raw to production. Its one point for start ico.



Did you contact her? Do you know sir, that post not checked info called a lie? If contact, please update info about date, time and method.




Because of its a brand name, not company's. Before writing such material may be easy to ask first and get the answer?

Okay I have locked their thread.I will unlock it when they are ready to post reply.I will delete the content of thread after that and lock it permanently
edit : they have asked me to unlock now and allow them to post

^^ these guys are unbelievable.
What doubts omg

Coinect team has asked me to give them 24 hours to post their reply.Shouldn't we give them a chance to clear our doubts?If they fail,I will waste no more time and Lock their thread.I am thankful to all members,including you, who brought this to my notice.