Topic: War between US and China (Read 5282 times)

Some relevant points to make:

QE 4 is here / coming. Its defense spending. A lot of defense spending heightens tension and promotes conflict. The US & China has had to come to agreements stopping their jet pilots from flipping the bird at each other. That is how close they are flying to each other over the South China Sea area. Conflict is inevitable as economies decline as we have seen throughout history. Maybe we will only see economic or trade wars this time and not a military war - what landmass could US / China fight for? No one will buy the 'we need to protect freedom in X' anymore.


* The PBoC needs jobs and food in order to appease its population. It also needs to adjust its economy to a consumer driven market. Chinese debt has risen from 7trillion to 28 trillion in less than 10 years.

- it needs to keep its economy competitive (cheapish Yuan)
- it needs to control food supply (South China Sea islands in large fishing catchment area, shipping lanes)
- it is facing the 'impossible trinity' (cannot have open capital account, pegged currency, independent interest rates at same time for long).

* The US is in internal upheaval and is both beholden to, and master of the global economy.

- The Trump Administration looks to lean towards an alliance with Russia that would calm the Middle East & destroy Daesh.
- The Obama Administration had pivoted towards China
- The Intelligence Community (CIA) has many Cold Warriors who wish to re-ignite conflict with Russia. They have tried to destroy Trump ('Putin puppet'), taken out Flynn, and destroyed the Obama initiated Syrian peace by bombing Syrian soldiers during ceasefire.
- The US Fed needs to raise rates in prep for another recession but this imports deflation and harms emerging markets, leading to either more currency wars or an economic panic (that could possibly be very bad as global debt is enormous).
- Fed can only hope to raise before a recession hits. Otherwise we are in serious trouble, a financial ELE.
- The globalists really need inflation (to reduce debt). The Chinese own a large amount of UST's, therefore inflation cheapens their UST assets.
- The Trump Admin looks to be more isolationist & protectionist, forcing companies to bring jobs & cash back to America.
- Globalism and free trade has destroyed the middle class (Trumps base) for the past few decades and enriched big corporations.

That was his tactic. First he unnerved the Chinese by hinting that he may be not honor the one-China policy. This got the Chinese worried and they made secret deals with the Americans over North Korea. In the end, it was a victory for Trump.

Trump lol


Btw. With accepting the one china policy the danger of a hot war was for sure lowered.
Good choice of trump to take some steps back.
(I think this is the reason why china enacted a coal embargo to north korea - one hand helps the other)

SCS and trading deficit are still a hot topic though.

That is not true. Perhaps that was the case a few decades back. But nowadays, the political leaders can't afford to alienate the general population by taking one-sided decisions. The people are more aware about the current affairs and politics, thanks to the internet and social media. It is not possible to control them by hiding the facts.

Unfortunately, all leaders tend to have larger ambitions. They always present delusions of grandeur and as soon as they encounter others in the same leader the other methods except the war they have no choice. Moreover, they do not fight and are therefore not afraid to be killed or wounded.

I think the competition in trading is not unusual, but the decision to go to war was exceptional, as a wise leader must think about the fate of its citizens because of the case of the war, only the leader of the selfish wants war, I think a lot of good ways to solve the problem, and war is not a good alternative for solving problems

Good joke. Do you only get a green card if your are a comedian? Lol

The US spends tens of billions on THAAD in SEA just for fun and giggles.
(And before you get the genius idea China >>>>>>north korea)

If a military confrontation between Japan and China happens in the near future, I am 100% sure that the American military will get involved in the warfare (on the Japanese side). That said, Japan doesn't really need help from the US. Despite the popular myths, the Japanese armed forces is much better than the PLA.

You can see that Trump is going to force American companies to reduce their activities in all countries. No exception and China. Once that happens China's growth will stop and they may try to revenge us for it. In such a situation, it could start a war.

War isn't a solution to prove which country has the most powerful tool innocent people will die because of the greediesness of each country. China is earning or getting billions from US , why they need to start a war for what reason? I beleived is only for the economics and other thing not those military war isn't ?

China earn more than $200 Billion from US, if the war is coming, i don't think China will has any chance to win.

Any proof?  or some reference?
You can't just tell people that those countries you've mentioned are "proxies". There are no proxies, it's being called as "Ally". It is on different road.
Have you imagine that japan will attack china (or other country connected to china) with the command of US? , lol nope

It can get physical as well. I am not saying that the US is going to directly attack China, but they will do that indirectly using the proxies. It will be the Chinese proxies (North Korea.etc) against the US proxies (Taiwan, Japan.etc).

war between US and china, only economic war, not military

By 2020 China will be the most power ful country and Donald Trump will not be able to digest it... As a result there will be war between us and China.

War between US and China will not bring any good to world but will just bring destruction to all of us. There are other ways to solved conflict like having a talk between the two countries.

Sometimes, there is no other option. If another country invades your home, will you sit back and watch? There are crazy people everywhere and they are very fond of starting new wars. They need to get a taste of their own medicine.

War is a bad thing, and nobody is achieving anything in war, the country being destroyed the nature is damaged the citizen suffering with fear, it is a advanced era why don't solved it like a civilized eduacted person, i think people will more appreciated the leader if they can finish an issue without war

War is not a solution those leaders of country are just crazy why they want war? If they can fight 1on1 why they want to kill inocent people just simply give them knife and lets see who will be the strongest one and who will keep alive after the knife fight.

Not that sure about it. Trump is very very anti-China. I am afraid that China will provoke North Korea, to retaliate against Trump. That will be bad news for Donald Trump and the US allies in the region (South Korea, Japan, Taiwan.etc).