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youdamushi

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Quote from: criptix on January 22, 2017, 01:03:33 PM

Trump seems to be the the first US president to go against the one china policy and wants to start a trade war with china.
China already said it will answer accordingly with economical and military means.

In the case china allies with russia - which is highly likely based on geo-strategical positions - what are the chances that trump will be succesful?

There are stories of china talking indirectly with trump through jack ma who promised to create 1 million jobs in the US in the next coming 4-8 years, but isnt this more or less just a drop of water on a hot stone?

Your raising the only important fact about Trump.

USA is a warmonger country. They have never built anything FOR their country but rather AGAINST an enemy.
They need to feel threatened in order to go forth.
That's a pity but that's also a fact. That's why they never have been at peace.

Enemy was Russia. Then it became Middle East. And now Trump points at a new enemy: China.

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It's a complicated issue but it seems to me that a trade war between USA and China is not likely to be. Trump said that he wants to change big changes in trading consensus between two countries. Mass media deduced Trump's declarations as trade war. China exports are about one fifth to US market and on the other side China would let yuan to free float and US products will no longer be competitive. At the end both of them will lose more than they expected to gain.

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Life is a game, you either play it or get played.

Despite popular belief, China is a balanced superpower that would still trade excessively even if Donald Trump's policies get through.

Russia has made alignment offers with a China to open up boundaries, but both may have potential disputes regarding what would get sent through.

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Quote from: JoltCola on January 25, 2017, 12:31:33 PM

Quote from: grenade launcher on January 25, 2017, 06:39:00 AM

The congressmen, Edward Markey and Ted Lew introduced a bill prohibiting American President Donald Trump's first to use nuclear weapons against other countries.
According to the congressmen, with the advent of trump to power the issue of nuclear weapons has become extremely relevant because the new American President "has the right to start a nuclear war at any moment".In particular, the authors of the bill recalled the words of trump, who promised to consider the question of a nuclear strike by terrorists.
American politicians believe that such a policy "significantly increases the risk of inadvertent nuclear escalation".

That's bullshit he's a business man not a warmonger. They are just trying to paint him as a crazy person who would do that when he gets angry.

He is businessman and want more profit and power just because of this he can start was because its happening in last few centuries most of wars going to profit and more power and if Trump is also try to do this its nothing new in human history

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Quote from: JoltCola on January 25, 2017, 12:31:33 PM

Quote from: grenade launcher on January 25, 2017, 06:39:00 AM

The congressmen, Edward Markey and Ted Lew introduced a bill prohibiting American President Donald Trump's first to use nuclear weapons against other countries.
According to the congressmen, with the advent of trump to power the issue of nuclear weapons has become extremely relevant because the new American President "has the right to start a nuclear war at any moment".In particular, the authors of the bill recalled the words of trump, who promised to consider the question of a nuclear strike by terrorists.
American politicians believe that such a policy "significantly increases the risk of inadvertent nuclear escalation".

That's bullshit he's a business man not a warmonger. They are just trying to paint him as a crazy person who would do that when he gets angry.

Do you not realize that a large percentage of wars are started because of businessmen and their desires for more power? Jesus majority of you people were totally against people like him until he popped up. Now you all act like the blind. Wake up.

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rigth now a war is far way, all parts are aware of the consequences of a war, china has many of its reserves in us dollars, that they are continuely threating to change it after every meassure against it by us, that would make the usd price to go down, at this moment china and rusia are countries that need to be taken really serious by us goverment, the times when they ruled the world at their convinience are over. at least thats what i think and its being proved by reality

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Quote from: grenade launcher on January 25, 2017, 06:39:00 AM

The congressmen, Edward Markey and Ted Lew introduced a bill prohibiting American President Donald Trump's first to use nuclear weapons against other countries.

How shameless can these Democrats be? If Edward Markey is serious, then he must introduce a bill to jail people who order invasions of third world nations. He will never do that, as most of the guys who are going to be targeted will be from the Democrat party. Remember Clinton ordering the bombing of Serbian orphanages and kindergartens in 1999?

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Quote from: grenade launcher on January 25, 2017, 06:39:00 AM

The congressmen, Edward Markey and Ted Lew introduced a bill prohibiting American President Donald Trump's first to use nuclear weapons against other countries.
According to the congressmen, with the advent of trump to power the issue of nuclear weapons has become extremely relevant because the new American President "has the right to start a nuclear war at any moment".In particular, the authors of the bill recalled the words of trump, who promised to consider the question of a nuclear strike by terrorists.
American politicians believe that such a policy "significantly increases the risk of inadvertent nuclear escalation".

That's bullshit he's a business man not a warmonger. They are just trying to paint him as a crazy person who would do that when he gets angry.

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Quote from: GreenBits on January 25, 2017, 12:57:06 AM

In my opinion US President Donald Trump want his country to make more dependant to their products .As for now Donald Trump exit the trade deal with their allied nations in Asia.Lets wait if Donald Trump make the America Great Again.

Well i think if theres anything that we cantrust trump to do well in his term, its in the economic aspect of governing. Being a successful businessman i think trump knows all to well what to do with america's economy. If he deemed that cutting away from china and depending more in our own products, then i'm willing to give him a chance to prove himself. Hopefully the conflict here doesnt escalate militarily. It's going to be dangerous not only for these two countries but to the whole world

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The congressmen, Edward Markey and Ted Lew introduced a bill prohibiting American President Donald Trump's first to use nuclear weapons against other countries.
According to the congressmen, with the advent of trump to power the issue of nuclear weapons has become extremely relevant because the new American President "has the right to start a nuclear war at any moment".In particular, the authors of the bill recalled the words of trump, who promised to consider the question of a nuclear strike by terrorists.
American politicians believe that such a policy "significantly increases the risk of inadvertent nuclear escalation".

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This war will never happen. It is a dream scenario for people who like to play war games in their minds. Like a good chess scenario between two great players. The United States never fights an economic adversary head on and the same goes twice as much for China. There will be more(maybe) satellite wars fought by other nations just like the Cold War. Just read up on how China trains their government officials and generals. They do not train for traditional war. They try to take down their opponents without fighting.

Also, if you read Chinese newspapers and read up on their officials, they always state they are not ready for an all out war. Their navy and Air Force are not equipped to take on the USA.

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In my opinion US President Donald Trump want his country to make more dependant to their products .As for now Donald Trump exit the trade deal with their allied nations in Asia.Lets wait if Donald Trump make the America Great Again.

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From the Trump speech judgment, he cares about most is the huge U.S. trade deficit of Chinese, this situation lasted for 30 years, from $3 billion 900 million in 1985, has been extended to the end of 2015 to a record $365 billion 700 million in the face of this situation, business people Trump as a future president of the United States, of course, very much. 2001 Nobel laureate Joseph Stiglitz (Joseph E. Stiglitz) describes the situation between the two countries: the current account deficit, more than 1.5% of GDP, will be drastic friction; more than 2%, will lead to retaliatory action; if a country to another country's trade surplus over the China World Trade Center trade 25%-30%. It is a political issue.

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Quote from: BCEmporium on January 24, 2017, 11:10:59 AM

nobody is fighting wars with foot soldiers anymore

That's right. If it comes to war Chinese hackers (or any hackers for that matter) will shut down the ancient US power grid and the US economy is gone in seconds.

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The war between them cannot stop anymore, it has been a system since they have both aiming one thing and that is to be the number 1 most powerful country in the world. In the other hand, we need this 2 countries in our economy, they are both good with different product that is why they differ in the other way around and both of them are powerful no doubt.

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Quote from: Ronxawala on January 24, 2017, 01:00:33 PM

Quote from: rchstr on January 24, 2017, 12:51:09 PM

Quote from: Sirtho on January 24, 2017, 10:40:28 AM

i thought doesnt fight USA with China, because of they are alliance.

china and united state of america is not that close. this two giant nations in some part of laws of the world have contradictions. they are just part of the asean and can help each other. but based on what we are seeing they have their own right to defend against the other. so being in the same alliance will not means that they cant start a war.

China and America will not be able to find a common strategy. Their interests are opposite each other. A hot war between them, but a trade war could begin. I can already see that Trump will lose this war.

Just like North and South Korea, they have opposite mind sets. We all know that United States and China has its own ideas and interests. We all also know that Trump can lead a war between two countries. We must see what will be our future if USA and China declare war.

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Quote from: rchstr on January 24, 2017, 12:51:09 PM

Quote from: Sirtho on January 24, 2017, 10:40:28 AM

i thought doesnt fight USA with China, because of they are alliance.

china and united state of america is not that close. this two giant nations in some part of laws of the world have contradictions. they are just part of the asean and can help each other. but based on what we are seeing they have their own right to defend against the other. so being in the same alliance will not means that they cant start a war.

China and America will not be able to find a common strategy. Their interests are opposite each other. A hot war between them, but a trade war could begin. I can already see that Trump will lose this war.

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Quote from: Sirtho on January 24, 2017, 10:40:28 AM

i thought doesnt fight USA with China, because of they are alliance.

china and united state of america is not that close. this two giant nations in some part of laws of the world have contradictions. they are just part of the asean and can help each other. but based on what we are seeing they have their own right to defend against the other. so being in the same alliance will not means that they cant start a war.

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China has a lot to lose by engaging US. So I believe it's not on their interest to seek such war, not even by Taiwan. They would loose their Asiatic sphere of influence. To not mention their ancient hi-tech enemy, Japan...
«Oh but they've a big army!»... unless you're on the 3rd World, nobody is fighting wars with foot soldiers anymore, and that just means it would take more bodybags. Too much at stake and for them this can be an opportunity for explore alternative markets.

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i thought doesnt fight USA with China, because of they are alliance.

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