WARNING!! BEWARE S11 SCAM Email!! - page 2.

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Quote from: BenRickert on June 16, 2018, 04:04:45 PM

Quote from: SplinterZalinsk on June 16, 2018, 02:49:50 PM

That's SO SO bad... in SO many levels!!!! It's unbelievable!!!!! Shocked

The email I received was from Bitmain's official email!!!! It's very very easy to fall in this fraud (even for experienced miners)!!! I feel SO bad for the people who fell in that shit.............. Cry

The way it was done, Bitmain is guilty and must take the consequences for it. It's not fair that people suffer such astronomical damage as that. No doubt that Bitmain has responsibility for what happened...

How is this Bitmain's fault? I don't agree with everything they do but I've dealt with them extensively for a while and I have always been treated well by them. They are not the Villains people would like to portray them as. In the end we are all responsible for our decisions. Can't blame others. Life's not fair. Never was and never will be. This is a very difficult space to navigate in. It's new and there are no rules. We ALL have the ultimate responsibility to protect ourselves and others when we can, but in the end, WE are responsible. That's why I made this thread. To hopefully save a few people. Truth is, people get greedy and make bad decisions clouded by greed. On BOTH sides of the fence. Just be vigilant and don't lose your discipline. SCAMS are getting MORE and MORE sophisticated because there is a LOT of money at stake. Look at this ASICminer.com scam that is going on. I don't think that's even a real company. Yet they have videos and websites and idiots putting phony reviews on YouTube. The less people that fall for this shit the less these maggots will gain. Be careful and be VIGILANT.

No man, you didn't understand... how many times have you received an email from a BIG company (from their REAL servers), but was actually a fraud? If that were common and "acceptable", the email would have been extinguished a long time ago... The problem is not the email as vulnerable technology... many serious huge companies work every day with much more important data and money by email with their customers and partners. The problem is the lack of security on Bitmain servers! That's why Bitmain is guilty for that. If you had received an email from Nvidia's OFFICIAL email for example, with all your REAL data (including your address!!!) offering some kind of discount and you were fooled by it (again... coming from the OFFICIAL email with your REAL data)... the reason for this would have been purely a security breach of Nvidia and you can be sure that if you proved to have made the payment, they would take some action to reimburse you and everyone who was harmed. Any serious company would do that. If the email had been sent from another server, not from Bitmain's email server, then you would be right... But is NOT the case!

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Quote from: SplinterZalinsk on June 16, 2018, 02:49:50 PM

That's SO SO bad... in SO many levels!!!! It's unbelievable!!!!! Shocked

The email I received was from Bitmain's official email!!!! It's very very easy to fall in this fraud (even for experienced miners)!!! I feel SO bad for the people who fell in that shit.............. Cry

The way it was done, Bitmain is guilty and must take the consequences for it. It's not fair that people suffer such astronomical damage as that. No doubt that Bitmain has responsibility for what happened...

How is this Bitmain's fault? I don't agree with everything they do but I've dealt with them extensively for a while and I have always been treated well by them. They are not the Villains people would like to portray them as. In the end we are all responsible for our decisions. Can't blame others. Life's not fair. Never was and never will be. This is a very difficult space to navigate in. It's new and there are no rules. We ALL have the ultimate responsibility to protect ourselves and others when we can, but in the end, WE are responsible. That's why I made this thread. To hopefully save a few people. Truth is, people get greedy and make bad decisions clouded by greed. On BOTH sides of the fence. Just be vigilant and don't lose your discipline. SCAMS are getting MORE and MORE sophisticated because there is a LOT of money at stake. Look at this ASICminer.com scam that is going on. I don't think that's even a real company. Yet they have videos and websites and idiots putting phony reviews on YouTube. The less people that fall for this shit the less these maggots will gain. Be careful and be VIGILANT.

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That's SO SO bad... in SO many levels!!!! It's unbelievable!!!!! Shocked

The email I received was from Bitmain's official email!!!! It's very very easy to fall in this fraud (even for experienced miners)!!! I feel SO bad for the people who fell in that shit.............. Cry

The way it was done, Bitmain is guilty and must take the consequences for it. It's not fair that people suffer such astronomical damage as that. No doubt that Bitmain has responsibility for what happened...

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Quote from: adaseb on June 16, 2018, 05:30:41 AM

Quote from: Guvn0r on June 15, 2018, 12:17:27 PM

Quote from: cointelegraph.com

CNBC writes that according to a report published Feb. 21 from investment research company Bernstein, the four-year-old Bitmain reportedly made between $3 and $4 billion in operating profit in 2017, whereas Nvidia, founded 24 years ago, made about $3 billion during the same period.

A company that makes more profit than tech giant like Nvidia, cannot afford to hire top level security experts to keep their systems away from hackers. It is infuriating really, these hacker scumbags now have all my info including my address and phone number. WTF Bitmain?

Yes I am not surprised by this at all.

Even after they got hacked and all that info was leaked, they barely provided an update. They didn't even specify what exactly was leaked out. All they said was some database got hacked.

Given how poorly their website was designed and operated and same with their bad Antpool, I am not surprised that it was easily hackable.

Pretty much all their products are half-ass assembled and produced. Nothing quality like the old Antminer S1/S2/S3 they used to make.

Very true, they are in the business because of greed and nothing else, they don't give a shit about their customers. I checked their website to see Antminer D3 on sale for around 300 dollars, I remember the price when it released was 2699USD (excluding psu/shipping). May be I am judging too quick, but thats an insane price drop. It is just ridiculously unfair to those who bought like 100s of these during release.

Antminer D3 (2699 USD)

Spacefruit

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Gentlemen

Thank you for this thread - I just got an email with a PDF last night,
In my head I had sold all the S9's and sent everything I have for these S11's

BUT THEY DO NOT EXIST

So thanks everyone, and well done to me for doing due diligence.

Happy mining all!

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Quote from: Guvn0r on June 15, 2018, 12:17:27 PM

Quote from: cointelegraph.com

CNBC writes that according to a report published Feb. 21 from investment research company Bernstein, the four-year-old Bitmain reportedly made between $3 and $4 billion in operating profit in 2017, whereas Nvidia, founded 24 years ago, made about $3 billion during the same period.

A company that makes more profit than tech giant like Nvidia, cannot afford to hire top level security experts to keep their systems away from hackers. It is infuriating really, these hacker scumbags now have all my info including my address and phone number. WTF Bitmain?

Yes I am not surprised by this at all.

Even after they got hacked and all that info was leaked, they barely provided an update. They didn't even specify what exactly was leaked out. All they said was some database got hacked.

Given how poorly their website was designed and operated and same with their bad Antpool, I am not surprised that it was easily hackable.

Pretty much all their products are half-ass assembled and produced. Nothing quality like the old Antminer S1/S2/S3 they used to make.

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Quote from: CryptoAllDay on June 15, 2018, 03:31:36 PM

Quote from: Guvn0r on June 15, 2018, 12:17:27 PM

Quote from: cointelegraph.com

CNBC writes that according to a report published Feb. 21 from investment research company Bernstein, the four-year-old Bitmain reportedly made between $3 and $4 billion in operating profit in 2017, whereas Nvidia, founded 24 years ago, made about $3 billion during the same period.

A company that makes more profit than tech giant like Nvidia, cannot afford to hire top level security experts to keep their systems away from hackers. It is infuriating really, these hacker scumbags now have all my info including my address and phone number. WTF Bitmain?

Wow, those numbers are crazy. Maybe now with their reputation on the line they'll start hiring top security talent so things like this don't happen again. Thanks for the warning, I've heard multiple people getting compromised. I wonder why they haven't made an official announcement about it, warning customers.

I sent to Bitmain request for explanation, but no reply. Same scammer continue to send email nearly every day , with the same toopic and text.

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Quote from: Guvn0r on June 15, 2018, 12:17:27 PM

Quote from: cointelegraph.com

CNBC writes that according to a report published Feb. 21 from investment research company Bernstein, the four-year-old Bitmain reportedly made between $3 and $4 billion in operating profit in 2017, whereas Nvidia, founded 24 years ago, made about $3 billion during the same period.

A company that makes more profit than tech giant like Nvidia, cannot afford to hire top level security experts to keep their systems away from hackers. It is infuriating really, these hacker scumbags now have all my info including my address and phone number. WTF Bitmain?

Wow, those numbers are crazy. Maybe now with their reputation on the line they'll start hiring top security talent so things like this don't happen again. Thanks for the warning, I've heard multiple people getting compromised. I wonder why they haven't made an official announcement about it, warning customers.

Guvn0r

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Quote from: cointelegraph.com

CNBC writes that according to a report published Feb. 21 from investment research company Bernstein, the four-year-old Bitmain reportedly made between $3 and $4 billion in operating profit in 2017, whereas Nvidia, founded 24 years ago, made about $3 billion during the same period.

A company that makes more profit than tech giant like Nvidia, cannot afford to hire top level security experts to keep their systems away from hackers. It is infuriating really, these hacker scumbags now have all my info including my address and phone number. WTF Bitmain?

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no the attachment is a simple pdf. they already have all the data

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Quote from: juninhodecio on June 12, 2018, 06:26:50 PM

Quote from: xarx80 on June 12, 2018, 03:57:49 AM

Bitmain : Please be advised that Bitmain haven't contacted customers by telephone or email to announce Antminer S11. Do not purchase from such a caller or an email and do not give them your personal information. For more detail please see this article: https://blog.bitmain.com/en/fraudulent-websites-and-scams-alert/
For official updates and Bitmain news please follow our blog: https://blog.bitmain.com/en/
?: but the email has personal information
?: how is this possible?
Bitmain : We have forwarded this information to the team that is investigating the recent hack of our database. This could contribute to making our database more secure for the future. It could also just be a phishing attempt from someone pretending to have what is being offered.
Anyway, please only trust emails from www.bitmain.com or www.bitmaintech.com and remember that Bitmain never requests payment through email. Any pending payment would be shown on your www.bitmain.com account.
?: offer email is [email protected]
Bitmain : yes, we know
Bitmain : We are now monitoring our system to ensure the security of customer information.

They have updated data according to this post.

The attachment may have been a phishing scam. Possibly if you opened it you gave your info inadvertently??

gr1ndb0t

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These scammers called me June 5, asked me wait 'til June 9th for email info, they clearly said my account email addresses that I have been registered at bitmain. When I asked from where are you calling from?" He says "From Moscow" but in Russia just one official service in Irkutsk - that's weird detail I suspected immediately. Sheeeet guys - only newbies can believe in this monster 79.5 TH/s only 1400W Shocked

Is that a quantum masterpiece? Roll Eyes

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Quote from: xarx80 on June 12, 2018, 03:57:49 AM

Bitmain : Please be advised that Bitmain haven't contacted customers by telephone or email to announce Antminer S11. Do not purchase from such a caller or an email and do not give them your personal information. For more detail please see this article: https://blog.bitmain.com/en/fraudulent-websites-and-scams-alert/
For official updates and Bitmain news please follow our blog: https://blog.bitmain.com/en/
?: but the email has personal information
?: how is this possible?
Bitmain : We have forwarded this information to the team that is investigating the recent hack of our database. This could contribute to making our database more secure for the future. It could also just be a phishing attempt from someone pretending to have what is being offered.
Anyway, please only trust emails from www.bitmain.com or www.bitmaintech.com and remember that Bitmain never requests payment through email. Any pending payment would be shown on your www.bitmain.com account.
?: offer email is [email protected]
Bitmain : yes, we know
Bitmain : We are now monitoring our system to ensure the security of customer information.

They have updated data according to this post.

ay-x

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pointing to our personal data being stolen.
Please note the attached files and links in the mails.
There have always been malicious people, there will always be.

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Quote from: Gilliam on June 12, 2018, 03:13:52 PM

Quote from: BenRickert on June 09, 2018, 02:59:43 PM

Just got an email from " No [email protected] offering a "presale fpr the new S11 at 74 THs and 1400 watts. $2200 each. Complete with Bar code payment options, Crypto only. TOTAL SCAM!! DO NOT FALL FOR IT. All purchases are done at Bitmain website and this is not. All emails from bitmain are from " webmaster@bitmaintech" not [email protected].

then wtf they know our email.

inside job?

Bitmain was hacked sometime last year. They sent all registered users emails requesting we change our passwords. They DID alert their customer base of the situation. The scumbag thieves seem to have "older" information. In a few cases, myself included, they have an old mailing address for me. Pretty amazing that the dirt bags waited this long to hatch their little scheme. It's very likely that the thieves were born from and raised by cheap street level prostitutes. They have probably been very busy cleaning up after their mother's sexual messes day in and day out.

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Quote from: BenRickert on June 09, 2018, 02:59:43 PM

Just got an email from " No [email protected] offering a "presale fpr the new S11 at 74 THs and 1400 watts. $2200 each. Complete with Bar code payment options, Crypto only. TOTAL SCAM!! DO NOT FALL FOR IT. All purchases are done at Bitmain website and this is not. All emails from bitmain are from " webmaster@bitmaintech" not [email protected].

then wtf they know our email.

inside job?

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Quote from: BenRickert on June 12, 2018, 02:11:42 PM

I can promise you that you will NOT see a SHA 256 miner from anyone, let alone Bitmain that processes 79 THs while pulling 2000 watts or less. I'm no hardware expert but I'm pretty sure that is WAY beyond impossible at today's density. Even 7nm.

That's what made me suspect the email. That efficiency is technology from the future. Many people are not familiar with SHA256 miner usual specs and get tricked.

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Quote from: juninhodecio on June 12, 2018, 04:14:10 AM

i think it was an ex employee or employee with access to the systems, database, dns etc.
Everything is so correct that the s11 specs might also be correct and when released the diff will kill all the s9 and below models

I can promise you that you will NOT see a SHA 256 miner from anyone, let alone Bitmain that processes 79 THs while pulling 2000 watts or less. I'm no hardware expert but I'm pretty sure that is WAY beyond impossible at today's density. Even 7nm.

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I guess with crypto, everything from exchanges to manufacturers email list are targeted. Just because it is often exchanges, does not mean email list, numbers,etc wont be targeted too.

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I do remember that in mid 2017, there was some issue with bitmain database, somehow buyer database being stolen because of poor security in bitmain side. And we got mass email to change our password from bitmain after that.

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