Topic: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft - page 3. (Read 9919 times)

As a business who intends to use NXT AE in order to deliver added value services for investors and business owners I do have few concerns with ardeva:

1)How do you verify national id cards? do you actually do some checks with national government agencies?
2)Can you give us more info on your verification module and how you execute them - I find myself confused doing due diligence on YOU!
3)What happens if one of my clients that I have pointed to ardeva gets all the money and run away - what guarantee do I have that you will reveal his/her identity? Are you ready to sign a contract with my company with regards to this?
4)If your business is serious ( our judgement really depends on how you answer 1-3) then how come that it is all free?! sorry but it does not sound realistic. If it becomes a paid service - please tell us what would be the pricing model - how do we plan our own budget?!
5)Don't you think that you shall answer all those questions on your website?
6)I think that a company like this shall have at least a phone number - just an email is not serious.


TO ALL: what alternative do we have to aredeva - what would be a reputable identity verification platform that is affordable for the small business?

For what exactly? Your knowingly breaking the law.

The reality of the situation is this: Your accepting deposits from non-accredited US investors and allowing them to trade through your site. You are allowing US companies to raise capital without them being licensed to do so. That is YOUR responsibility, just as much as it is the asset owners. Throw out / ignore SEC letters, your going to end up in a US prison. Your blatantly breaking the law. Not to mention a "business attorney", what are you referring to exactly? You need to talk with a securities lawyer. And they will tell you the same thing I am telling you.

Bet you moderators do.... wait .... wait... nothing cause they have already called jayc89 told him he is a liar, if he lies about simple things why would he not lie about serious business things.

How about you or him address the issues instead of crying to the mods like jayc89 when he got called out for being a liar.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5721016

Dude your not even the owner your some PR employee Shill

I think you fail to see the point of the Cite, the US gov does not care if you operating legally in YOUR country. If you have U.S. citizens involved in any sort of way they will do as the please. If you think any different you are daft.

Not only that I can not prove it but I am about 75% sure the owner got all his funds to start that exchange by ripping people off with HYIP's

Please do not associate the name of legit business like Coinsortium with criminals dealing drugs. Our servers are our own, we have a regular contract and we do not use TOR or anything.

I am not exactly sure about what are you trying to prove with these weird examples and citations. Before creating our company we paid a business lawyer to check compliance with our laws and that is all that it is required.

Stil don't believe me? Well, it is within your rights! I won't discuss this matter further as it is useless on these terms. We have plenty of US investors and our law doesn't allow disclosure of personal information to a random foreign organization, be it governmental or not.

Very true but what we have learned from the SR case so far is, if the servers or business is not in the U.S.A they can hack it and do not need a warrant.
Cite: http://www.wired.com/2014/10/silk-road-judge-technicality/

I already did if you have been following, I know the main investor who bought the majority of shares and I provided him with everything I had. I could release public but I was asked not to do so as of yet.

You should probably be releasing BitcoinBudz' ID and Docs before taking on anything new-

This is not true, U.S has jurisdiction on any U.S citizen. It does not matter where you break the law. Perfect Example black water employee's killed people in Iraq got held and tried in the U.S.A.

But honestly the owner of this exchange is not someone you would want to do business with. I have had previous encounters with him, and the Mods have called him a straight liar. If anyone would like the links I would be happy to provide.

SEC has jurisdiction anywhere that accepts US investors. I would guess that ~50% of your listed assets are US based anyways... As for investors? 50-75%.

Don't forget bans on US users

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/sec-sends-inquiry-letters-hundreds-bitcoin-companies-unregistered-securities/

Just one of the confirmations that you need to stay away from both of these platforms!

This is how all scams begin to unfold...

Canada does it too - we can choose either the Federal incorporation, or Provincial one. Ardeva is currently under a Quebec provincial incorporation, but we are looking at other jurisdiction for incorporation in the near future, mainly Delaware LLC.

Thanks for that, you're right it was on the Quebec Enterprise Registrar!  I didn't realise because I know places like USA, UK and Australia usually handle corporate law on a Federal level.

Zoznoz, ic.gc.ca only lists companies incorporated under the Canadian chart (Federal), not the Quebec chart (provincial) - you would have to query the "Registraire des Entreprises du Québec" and get the informations about Triaxo Group.

I believe the OP only said most of that and wrote the misleading title, ">> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft" just to get the response that he did. Everyone should be aware of identity theft sure, it can happen anywhere but I also work in a position where I have to obtain photocopies of customers' Government ID sometimes and other sensitive material to verify their identity. There is really no difference between saying that I am an identity thief just for requesting these documents, by your logic.


Yes, identity theft is a lucrative and evil trade but individually, photocopies of an ID and a utility bill isn't going to get you anywhere near the amount that a project/asset owner would raise. You're probably thinking of identity theft involving physical cards/documents or skimming credit cards.


Apparently it is, as frederichoule pointed out the website by his claim is under a registered Canadian company, I agree I can't find any evidence of that on the website itself. However, with a WHOIS search you can find that the organisation listed under ardeva.com is the 'TRIAXO GROUP'. Besides that it appears WHOIS Privacy isn't even on so it appears that Ardeva is likely being very transparent themselves. One thing I will mention though is  when I try to search for the "Triaxo group" on www.ic.gc.ca, nothing appears. Besides that if Ardeva isn't actually operated under a company, then that means that it would have be a proprietorship/sole trader business which means there is substantially more risk for the founder anyway. If anything, not operating under a company means there is more risk and scrutiny for the founder.

Hey RiverBoatBTC!

#1 - The only thing we claim is that we verified the informations we asked for in our verification modules. We do not have a "Criminal Case" verification module yet, but this is definitively something we want to add in the future. Take a look at his Ardeva profile, check the name of the verification module and the status next to it. We do not claim anything more than the fact that we verified that information.

#2 - A construction company? I'm not sure what you mean about that.

#3 - I test each and every module we put up on Ardeva. I do not approve my own documents, my partner does it, and I did the same for his documents. We had no choice to had a Gov ID + Address verified Ardeva account to list on Coinsortium - we can't circumvent that, it's required for others so it's required for us too.

Feel free to ask if you have any more questions!

Regards,
Fred

How do you know that he's a convicted felon? Because they have verified his identity. They have done their job, you have done yours.