Warning: Protact.net & user Truman does not honour agreements! Scammer!

yxt

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Quote from: Truman on November 22, 2015, 04:06:32 PM

Quote from: yxt on November 22, 2015, 09:52:03 AM

Quote from: Luisinho1 on November 22, 2015, 08:17:54 AM

I only received from him one S4 with 2 weeks delay.

This is "the best" for you? No Problem?

Who has mined this 2 weeks, with the unit you paid for?
What do you think?

Maybe you should change your supplier, to see how smoothly things can run. Wink

I dont see that you have any S4 in stock - since month! Roll Eyes

Yes, because I, unlike you, just sell goods that is in stock or in the feed.
And the S4 is EOL since months...

But I do not see the connection Huh

In addition, you wanted to say goodbye to the forum!
Well, your word is worth nothing....

Truman

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Quote from: yxt on November 22, 2015, 09:52:03 AM

Quote from: Luisinho1 on November 22, 2015, 08:17:54 AM

I only received from him one S4 with 2 weeks delay.

This is "the best" for you? No Problem?

Who has mined this 2 weeks, with the unit you paid for?
What do you think?

Maybe you should change your supplier, to see how smoothly things can run. Wink

I dont see that you have any S4 in stock - since month! Roll Eyes

yxt

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Quote from: Luisinho1 on November 22, 2015, 08:17:54 AM

I only received from him one S4 with 2 weeks delay.

This is "the best" for you? No Problem?

Who has mined this 2 weeks, with the unit you paid for?
What do you think?

Maybe you should change your supplier, to see how smoothly things can run. Wink

Luisinho1

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I only received from him one S4 with 2 weeks delay.

yxt

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What was with your delayed units?

Luisinho1

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Iam not understand!!!!

o_solo_miner

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-> morgen, ist heute, schon gestern <-

Wieso kommt mir nun plötzlich dieses Bild in den Sinn?

Luisinho1

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Quote from: LiteCoinGuy on November 21, 2015, 06:49:31 AM

of course he is a scammer. everyone here knows that.

Wy you say that? I have make some deals with him and he never scammed me.

LiteCoinGuy

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In Satoshi I Trust

of course he is a scammer. everyone here knows that.

Luisinho1

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I have make many deals with him and never have any problem.

Daniel(protact) for me is the best guy i have buy machines..

Wink

eestimees

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Today I got all bitcoins we agreed on.

eestimees

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Quote from: yxt on March 17, 2015, 08:08:04 AM

Without comment?

so still 0,206BTC debt

We are communication via e-mail. I just changed my invoice to reflect exchange rate of 1 btc / 270 € so he could send me missing coins (the 0,206). I do not understand his viewpoints, but I'll rest the case if I get all that we agreed for.

yxt

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Without comment?

so still 0,206BTC debt

eestimees

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He did pay 0,4 btc out of his 0,606 btc of his dept.

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Quote from: minerpool-de on March 14, 2015, 07:35:27 AM

Sorry my friend. This is a german section. I understand your Angry but please write in German. Google Translate will help you. Thanks a lot.

Oh no please not.. Shocked

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Sorry my friend. This is a german section. I understand your Angry but please write in German. Google Translate will help you. Thanks a lot.

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Quote from: david123 on March 13, 2015, 05:05:49 PM

So far, we only heard one side of the story. I really think you should
quote your PMs with Truman here (personal details left out), so
everyone can assure oneself that it happened as you said.

I don't want to defend Truman, doing business with him certainly
has his downsides (e.g. he is not very responsive, that is true).
But up to now he honored all agreements we had. Once he even
paid the shipping costs for returning a PSU to me (it was clearly
not his obligation to pay for that). So my experience is actually not
too bad.

I will do that, I gave him 7 days more time (5 left now). As I stated above, all is documented.

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So far, we only heard one side of the story. I really think you should
quote your PMs with Truman here (personal details left out), so
everyone can assure oneself that it happened as you said.

I don't want to defend Truman, doing business with him certainly
has his downsides (e.g. he is not very responsive, that is true).
But up to now he honored all agreements we had. Once he even
paid the shipping costs for returning a PSU to me (it was clearly
not his obligation to pay for that). So my experience is actually not
too bad.

yxt

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Yes, it was not the best move to do a invoice in €.

But they both agreed to do a countertrade (4,5 BTC against two used S4).
At this time they made a valid contract.

eestimees fulfilled his obligation and delivered.
Protact wanted to change the contract. eestimee refused.
From my understanding Protact then asked for an invoice in € for accounting purpose, so that he can pay.

They agreed that the countertrade was valued 9xx€ when it was closed.
But this was no contract amendment! Truman still has to fulfill his obligation
(transfer the ownership of 4.5 BTC)

If you don't agree with that point of view, and argue that they changed the contract:
The payment terms on the invoice are very clear. It includes the agreed exchange rate and the final amount in BTC.

Even if you still not agree.
I think if we take a look into the correspondence between the two it should be clear that eestimees never wanted to change the contract.
So there was a mistake in the utterance. And he can rescind the change.

I do not see any possibility that Truman legally can shirk the full payment!

Definitely it's bad business behavior.
And shows very well with whom you don't do business.

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Quote from: Aswan on March 12, 2015, 10:12:53 AM

...but then you sent an invoice with a EUR price on it. I think this was a big mistake. He can now claim that the price is right there in EUR and that, at the moment of the transfer, he gave you BTC worth that exact amount.

^^this

You said, you made a deal in BTC, then how in hell did you come up with an invoice in EUR?
If i may guess, I'd say it was Trumans idea, If so, that's where he tricked you out of your Coins.

Anyway, he has a history of screwing people, so you're not alone and I too feel with you.
Thanks for sharing your story.

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