Topic: WARNING scammer r0ach now shilling for the Monero hoax - page 5. (Read 7380 times)

You are a beta male and incapable of understanding such filigreed subtlety.

Begone.

i personally cant see any comedy in ur utter shite my nifty boy

but i want to thank u for deciding that to be the last post

thanx

~CfA~

Someone has sent iamnotback to gang up on my superior comedy.  I could send links and links of superior comedy to prove it, and I just may.

Everything I post says something about me.  Not sure what you think I said there though.

But you never seen not even not until you've seen my version of not even not.  And I fully understand the not even wrong theorum.

But I don't have not too much work to not do right now to never not argue with you right now or not.

This will be my last ever post.

I think he's talking about the fact that you alone donated like 20000 Monero  to the team which makes you like a giant Monero bagholder if u can do that lol... no wonder this forum see's you going crazy on Monero threads along with hashfest scammer Icebreaker and the 2 commit "Monero developer" Smooth  =(

You know what's funny after calling out that MOnero developer who took also around 20000 Monero's from that gambling site Monerdice hosted by the main Monero developer Fluffypony  I think he's name was othe...yes yes that useless developer who took the biggest win on that website yet he didn't do much also for 2 years or so...so yes it is believable to say that Monero with their giant bagholders and useless developer would hire ppl to spam the forums.

I raised the point not because I wanted to give up (although sometimes you guys make me feel like I would like to leave CC yet luckily my desire to fight overpowers my feelings/perceptions about how insane this market is). But because r0ach who has been for the past months (ever since he stopped teasing us with Bitshares' DPOS) arguing that Bitcoin is the only shit, suddenly starts pumping an altcoin (Monero). He raved about how it is superior to Zcash and he said basically it is the only altcoin that is worth considering. Fuck if Monero is the be all and end all of our attempts to improve CC, then we should roll over and die.

More power to Monero if they can surprise and actually figure out how to fix these problems and even challenge Bitcoin. But I am not holding my breath.

Monero had their years to dominate the forums. And what do we have to show for it?

Let someone else have a chance. Don't tell me Monero is only choice!

We need more experimentation. Monero has no clue on how to fix these issues. Nor how to obtain adoption. I was in their chat the other day to listen and it is all just nonsense. They have no plan whatsoever that is viable. And I wasn't planning on stating that, but since it wasn't enough to just let me make a statement about mining security being a weakness of proof-of-work altcoins, it unfortunately comes to me spilling out my other perceptions.

I have no problem with Monero, other than when people start speaking lies. Monero is one of the anonymity coins. It is a contender. Zcash is a contender. r0ach you are acting like the snake oil salesmen, such as iCEBREAKER who just say anything without any care whatsoever as to balance and accuracy. It is not true that Monero is superior to Zcash in every way, not even after RingCT is implemented, but I don't want to get into another long debate. So I won't even tell you why. I have already discussed that in the other threads many times before and I will not waste my time rehashing it. You are attacking a coin which isn't even released yet.

Note I haven't slept for 24 hours. So of course my writing is atrocious.



Let me add that I believe in meritocracy. I wish we could all stay in our official coin threads and go compete with action.

Enough words!

Please stop pumping shit!

Go work and STFU. All of us.

Compete and win on the merits of your adoption. We don't need r0ach or any other personality leading us like flock. Run a signature campaign if you want to plaster the forum with your banner. But pleeeeassssee stop with attacking other coins such as Zcash. Go build your own fucking coin and make it a Bitcoin killer. Words against Zcash isn't accomplishment. And for as long as Monero has ongoing forks (upgrades), please don't holier than thou about how Zcash has a corporation doing the open source coding. Open source coding has often been funded by corporations.

We need action. Stop the fucking games!



Fail. It is not even not funny. But it says something about you.

You convinced me.

let's roll over and die.

Privately developing an ASIC for Monero with orders-of-magnitude increase in power efficiency that normally results from an ASIC, is another potential way to amass massive hashrate advantage. Cryptonite seems to be compute bound, so if true then it is not ASIC resistant. If that is true, then until Monero's market becomes large enough to incentivize the development of publicly available ASICs, then it could be vulnerable.

Also as Monero's hashrate falls due to declining block rewards, that opens another opportunity to attack it more cheaply with rented hashrate.

Monero is fighting the State by offering anonymity. The Black Budget of the USA in excess of $4 trillion. If the DEEP STATE decides they want to crush Monero with hashrate attacks, then I don't believe Monero can defend itself. I believe this is what the blog article I linked to that started this discussion was concerned about. You may observe his writings are laced with anti-USG rhetoric.

Observe the Monero gang attacking me here, but none of you have proceeded to the blog of the author of the article I linked. His blog is open for comments. Are you afraid to rebuke him, the source of the allegation.

I think it is ludicrous to argue that these small market cap altcoins with declining block rewards are secure against such threats. It shouldn't even be an argument amongst sane individuals.

I can ICO THAT !

And nice to see you in the Altcoin section Bruno LOL

I warned these guys before you were comin'  

I see smoothie was compelled to jump into this bs too ahahhaha
You are all compulsive and manic techno blow hards..
Which would be fine if it was even remotely within context of the discussion at hand.

Funny part is i can quote all of these guys bad mouthing Bitcointalk
..then proclaiming how they are all leaving  

(funny 'cause their still here spouting off)

Do you want to discuss the topic ?
It does not seem that way.

If you are all content acting this way then go for it..
I just tried to point out how it catastrophically undermines your "I'm smart speech"

EDIT:
I may have not gotten the guys name correct on that..
Guy PM'd me to say it's not him.

Having just posted upthread I fell I must expand to clarify, I do not think Spoetnik is anything like the Squirrel galagos (Sciurocheirus) whose prehensile hands ( in both fore AND hind paws) give it the neural sophistication that is way beyond Spoetnics capacity.

He would be more the inferior melanistic eastern grey squirrel.

Common, and wholly idiotic almost as fully as you Mus Musculus fools.

All of you (except possibly Spoetnik) are certified idiots.

None of you can understand how I, as the inventor of the "Video Microwave" in 1989, have a wholly superior knowledge of quantum mechanics and the use of the cavity magnetron for manipulating EITHER NTSC or PAL broadcast signals.  It was therefore superior to the fundamentally inferior "Video Toaster" which ran on that damned Jay Miner's Amiga.

Jay sent god dammed Tim Jennison in to taunt me with more lies, and though my technology was superior their lies were able to influence the world of video production for years to come.

But w.r.t. to this current topic of mockery I simply do not have the time to explain how stuipid you all are and you would not be able to understand it anyway.

I am an inventor while you are all mice.

Or possibly a squirrel in the case of Spoetnik.

So:
1) Wait for Monero to reach tail emission
2) Hope the price does not go up in the interim (A major failure that is orthogonal to this debate)
3) And then the attack is barely feasible.

Edit 1: Maybe we should table this debate until Monero reaches the tail emission, since the attack has to wait until then to have even a hope of possible feasibility, and save everyone a lot of time.
Edit 2: r0ach did not start this thread.

Who is forcing you to respond in this thread?

Nobody but yourself.

Do us all a favor and at least own your own actions (like wasting your own time posting on the forum per your own words).

You don't play the victim very well.

Anonymint is that you? 

In 2011, Namecoin was a prime example of this (bolded).

it took months for the difficulty adjustment to happen downwards.

The tail reward is much lower than the current reward.

So then if smooth already admitted that a 100X hashrate might be difficult to source but feasible, so then 1000X becomes feasible when Monero's hashrate drops by 1/10 as you admit.

Please stop the lies! You continue to lie (see bolded, underlined).

So after wasting my entire fucking day, I was correct.

And you wonder why people get annoyed at Monero's community. Surely you are smart enough to have figured this all out 3 pages back and said, "you are correct". Then I would respect you.

Everyone knows that software developers disrespect those people who waste our time. Because we never have enough time.


r0ach close the damn thread. It is wasting a lot of precious time!

Your entire argument fails for Monero because you are not taking into account the tail emission which places a lower limit on the hashrate. for a given price in terms of the cost of computing power. As for fees in Cryptonote coins I expect the total fees per block to over time oscillate around a constant fraction of the emission regardless of the block size. For a constant price in terms of computing power I would expect the hashrate for Monero to eventually drop to around 7-8% of the current level. This is higher than the current hashrate of Bytecoin. Without a tail emission Cryptonote coins will eventually become insecure, so yes your argument does work for example for Bytecoin. Interestingly Bytecoin's pre mine / ninja mine could provide significant advance warning, in the order of two years, to the Monero community if one were to argue that the tail emission on Monero is not enough. This is kind of like a canary in a coal mine.

Edit: Taking only part of an argument while ignoring the rest of the argument does not invalidate the argument.

I don't answer those who don't understand that the debate is over already, and who ask irrelevant questions. My prior post is proscriptive.

jl777 is not partnered with me on any project. Any more lies?

It's a performative contradiction (IE euphemism for hypocrisy) to simultaneously reply to me while *at the same time* claiming "nobody cares what I have to say."  Obviously, and demonstrably, *YOU* care what I have to say.   

"1000X the hashrate" for how many blocks?

Despite being asked you've yet to specify, in a typical display of intellectual dishonesty and schizophrenic derangement.   

Did anyone claim XMR (or any PoW coin) is completely safe from 1000X hashrate attacks?  I don't recall such an assertion.

You need to accept the fact smooth just woke you up, fed you breakfast, got you dressed, put you in your little car seat, and TOOK YOU TO SCHOOL.   

P.S.  Arcticmine, smooth, and I mix it up frequently; you have zero basis to assert we are conniving in the manner of you and jl777scammer.

Dude I posted the links of proof on the prior page of this thread.

And I am saving the slam dunk for last.

Monero's hashrate will plummet as the block reward declines.

And the transaction fees not only won't scale up because Monero has no adoption use case, but they can't scale up because Monero didn't solve the block size bandwidth problem (as neither did Bitcoin).

So smooth's points are slam dunk refuted.

Stop the whining shit please. And be nice. So others can be nice to you. Everyone can see clearly that there is no unsubstantiated claim. It is quite clear what happened here. Just read the thread.

I can't help it if you didn't understand what the discussion was about and started to write gibberish. And then somehow you expect me to be nice after you three gang up on me. And especially when all 3 of you are incorrect on the technical issue.

I try to be nice and friendly with others. But hopefully you can see this situation was impossible to take. Go read the thread and imagine you are myself. Put yourself in my shoes for once.

You idiots pulled this same exact shit for 139 pages to be exact before on the same fucking topic

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789978.2760

It is so bad it's archived and listed as DELETE

You blow-hard's are mouthy spammy morons who THINK they are smart.
and never shut the fuck up.

..always about Monero

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look at page 99 of 139 people

same mouthy douche bags and same arguments..

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9079524

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EDIT:

And i quote..

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9079679


TheFascistMind vs smooth

ding ding ding round 140,000 of techno rammble spammtard Morono bullshit

..again