I think it will be very interesting to see the outcome of Russ Ulbrichts latest motion. The government wont say how they got to him. I see his case going to the supreme court one day if its not in his favor.
I would not be surprised if the case went to the supreme court. It appears that the government did some shady things in trying to Dox DPR (n/k/a Ross Ulbright) 
Topic: Warrant allows FBI to hack and install Malware on Tor users - DAFUQ? (Read 1422 times)
August 06, 2014, 07:53:19 PM
August 06, 2014, 03:25:53 PM
I think it will be very interesting to see the outcome of Russ Ulbrichts latest motion. The government wont say how they got to him. I see his case going to the supreme court one day if its not in his favor.
him and kim dotcom should team up with julian assange and edward snowden and own the US government and make them there bitches. if those 4 got together that really would make the US shit its pants. now thats a fight id love to see.
August 06, 2014, 03:18:25 PM
Glad to hear that normal users remain unaffected.
I read the title, and I instantly think "Ah sh1t."
Then I read it only applied to those who went to the darknet/deepnet, and I didn't think that any more.
The lesson here kids is this: Go to the darknet, and you'll get malware. Don't go to the darknet and you'll probably be fine.
August 06, 2014, 03:00:24 PM
I think it will be very interesting to see the outcome of Russ Ulbrichts latest motion. The government wont say how they got to him. I see his case going to the supreme court one day if its not in his favor.
August 06, 2014, 02:57:50 PM
the interwebz should gather a great LOIC army to fire at first fbi.gov and then other US goverment websites as vendetta for this act
Denial of Service attacks against an informational websites are the wrong way to solve this. That will achieve nothing, their shitty website will go down for a brief amount of time and that'll be it.
We should instead build software/tools to defend our privacy and fight back by making such kind of attacks impossible. Hopefully next time there won't be any email servers for them to hack because we'll have something better.
why not?
we will show we're "more trouble then gain" aka. we won't be worth to take down, there will be more to lose then to gain
Because somebody else will try the same thing. The FBI don't care if you DOS their site, it's just a website people go to to get information on the FBI, what they do etc. Why would they care? it doesn't inconvenience them in anyway - it's a waste of time, most people working in the FBI wouldn't even notice it was down or even care if they did notice. People have DOS'ed it before many times, nobody cared. Fight back by beating them at their own game.
August 06, 2014, 02:54:49 PM
the interwebz should gather a great LOIC army to fire at first fbi.gov and then other US goverment websites as vendetta for this act
Denial of Service attacks against an informational websites are the wrong way to solve this. That will achieve nothing, their shitty website will go down for a brief amount of time and that'll be it.
We should instead build software/tools to defend our privacy and fight back by making such kind of attacks impossible. Hopefully next time there won't be any email servers for them to hack because we'll have something better.
why not?
we will show we're "more trouble then gain" aka. we won't be worth to take down, there will be more to lose then to gain
August 06, 2014, 02:52:18 PM
the interwebz should gather a great LOIC army to fire at first fbi.gov and then other US goverment websites as vendetta for this act
Denial of Service attacks against an informational websites are the wrong way to solve this. That will achieve nothing, their shitty website will go down for a brief amount of time and that'll be it.
We should instead build software/tools to defend our privacy and fight back by making such kind of attacks impossible. Hopefully next time there won't be any email servers for them to hack because we'll have something better - something much more resilient to these kind and other kinds of attacks.
August 06, 2014, 02:47:05 PM
they should be sued for this
what ife they put malware in a user from the Netherlands buying weed on Silk Road
he's not doing anything illegal and the FBI doesn't have jurisdiction there
what ife they put malware in a user from the Netherlands buying weed on Silk Road
he's not doing anything illegal and the FBI doesn't have jurisdiction there
You are right, but sadly this is entirely legal for them to do.
One of the websites they placed the javascript malware on was Tormail, a free webmail service that did not host anything illegal but was just hosted on the same server as kiddy porn sites. I had an email account there and was targetted by the malware yet I had done nothing wrong. Luckily I was unaffected by the malware though as I of course disable javascript when using Tor.
the interwebz should gather a great LOIC army to fire at first fbi.gov and then other US goverment websites as vendetta for this act
August 06, 2014, 02:45:00 PM
The writing in this article is atrocious and the points made are mostly inaccurate
The WIRED article it links to near the start is astronomically better than the one thrown together by this crappy hackernews ripoff.
http://www.wired.com/2014/08/operation_torpedo/
The WIRED article it links to near the start is astronomically better than the one thrown together by this crappy hackernews ripoff.
http://www.wired.com/2014/08/operation_torpedo/
Yes thats a much better article.
haha operation torpedo yeah.... right...
August 06, 2014, 02:43:49 PM
they should be sued for this
what ife they put malware in a user from the Netherlands buying weed on Silk Road
he's not doing anything illegal and the FBI doesn't have jurisdiction there
what ife they put malware in a user from the Netherlands buying weed on Silk Road
he's not doing anything illegal and the FBI doesn't have jurisdiction there
You are right, but sadly this is entirely legal for them to do.
One of the websites they placed the javascript malware on was Tormail, a free webmail service that did not host anything illegal but was just hosted on the same server as kiddy porn sites. I had an email account there and was targetted by the malware yet I had done nothing wrong.
Luckily I was unaffected by the malware though as I of course disable javascript when using Tor, but no doubt the FBI have read all of my unencrypted email there.
After they were done with the malware they shut Tormail down. I had used the email address as a sign-up email address for lots of websites and it was a real pain to change them all. I didn't have the password for some of the accounts and had to abandon them and make new ones because I could no longer receive emails to my Tormail account. One of the accounts was a Bitcoin gambling website and I lost my balance there, it was small at the time but is probably worth a lot now.
August 06, 2014, 02:40:57 PM
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Please note that this attack was ONLY executed against people visiting Tor hidden services
what's the difference?
If you use Tor for browsing the internet, such as browsing bitcointalk.org or any "clearnet" website, you would not be affected by this attack.
If you visited a hidden service like silkroadssdadgs.onion or any other .onion website you could've been de-anonymized, but the issue has been fixed so not anymore but similar kinds of attacks are still possible.
they should be sued for this
malware in a user from the Netherlands buying weed on Silk Road
he's not doing anything illegal and the FBI doesn't have jurisdiction there
August 06, 2014, 02:36:07 PM
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Please note that this attack was ONLY executed against people visiting Tor hidden services
what's the difference?
If you use Tor for browsing the internet, such as browsing bitcointalk.org or any "clearnet" website, you would not be affected by this attack.
If you visited a hidden service like silkroadssdadgs.onion or any other .onion website you could've been de-anonymized, but the issue has been fixed so not anymore but similar kinds of attacks are still possible.
August 06, 2014, 02:13:24 PM
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Please note that this attack was ONLY executed against people visiting Tor hidden services
what's the difference?
August 06, 2014, 02:11:16 PM
I only went on tor a couple times using tails live cd, what are the chances to get in trouble like that (and you live outside US).
Well even if i am outside us they have done what they wanted, put fear into people so im not using tor again. its not like i found much interesting stuff anyway tho.
Well even if i am outside us they have done what they wanted, put fear into people so im not using tor again. its not like i found much interesting stuff anyway tho.
August 06, 2014, 01:25:03 PM
i don't even use tor anymore now that i have my coins in cold storage.. and if i did still use it, i'd use it on tails.
They will probably go after tails next. Think there is an exploit being done on tails two weeks ago.
August 06, 2014, 01:12:54 PM
i don't even use tor anymore now that i have my coins in cold storage.. and if i did still use it, i'd use it on tails.
August 06, 2014, 01:06:45 PM
Americans always trying to control the internet... and they always fail.
Germany much?nope British... wish i was Germany or Russian though
August 06, 2014, 01:03:25 PM
Americans always trying to control the internet... and they always fail.
Germany much? August 06, 2014, 12:54:12 PM
So, lots of users will go to jail soon for doing doggy thing?
They already did. This attack was executed back in August 2013:
http://bitcoinmagazine.com/6113/freedom-hosting-taken-down-founder-arrestes-users-fed-javascript-exploits/
http://www.wired.com/2013/09/freedom-hosting-fbi/
August 06, 2014, 12:48:05 PM
So, lots of users will go to jail soon for doing doggy thing?
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