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Topic: Warrant allows FBI to hack and install Malware on Tor users - DAFUQ? - page 2. (Read 1422 times)

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FBI NSA CIA can do whatever they want whether court ordered or not in my opinion if you are in their cross hairs beware
legendary
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good job i dont behave on the internet then (insert evil smile)

P.S for anyone's information if you dont like whats on the internet then turn it off by smashing your computer with a hammer. the internet isnt evil aslong as you dont look for evil on it
legendary
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Americans always trying to control the internet... and they always fail.
not to worry the quicker exploits pop up the quicker people find a way to stop it. as spoke says "the needs of the many out way the needs of the one" you let them find weakness then you brick it up make them do all the hard work its what there paid for  Grin
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So which one of those articles tells the truth? I find it highly interesting that the US are trying to undermine the TOR network and use it (want to use it?) to spy on people and on the other hand donate millions to that program in order to improve people's privacy???

Thats because different government agencies have different goals. The US military need Tor to protect their communications hence why they donate to it. Tor hinders FBI investigations hence why they attack it.

The CIA have admitted to spying on the senate and distributing drugs overseas. The NSA have placed backdoors in crypto which was used by other government agencies. Each agency does what it needs to do to fulfill its goals, even if it conflicts with the goals other agencies.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/31/cia-admits-spying-senate-staffers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking#CIA_and_Kuomintang_opium_smuggling_operations
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FURring bitcoin up since 1762
So which one of those articles tells the truth? I find it highly interesting that the US are trying to undermine the TOR network and use it (want to use it?) to spy on people and on the other hand donate millions to that program in order to improve people's privacy???
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The writing in this article is atrocious and the points made are mostly inaccurate
The WIRED article it links to near the start is astronomically better than the one thrown together by this crappy hackernews ripoff.
http://www.wired.com/2014/08/operation_torpedo/

Yes thats a much better article.
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et rich or die tryi
The writing in this article is atrocious and the points made are mostly inaccurate
The WIRED article it links to near the start is astronomically better than the one thrown together by this crappy hackernews ripoff.
http://www.wired.com/2014/08/operation_torpedo/
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Wow that article is very badly written.

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At the end of Last month, TOR itself confirmed that someone out there which is exploiting TOR Network for De-Anonymize tor users

Looks like the author didn't even bother to read the blogpost that the Tor Project put up: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-security-advisory-relay-early-traffic-confirmation-attack

In short: they are COMPLETELY different attacks. The attack in the OP's article is the one that was used against Freedom Hosting back in August 2013, where they hacked the freedom hosting server and served up malicious javascript to anyone visiting the kiddy porn sites they were hosting.

This issue has been patched (it was a 0-day exploit in Firefox) and similar exploits can be prevent by DISABLING JAVASCRIPT like you are supposed to do when using Tor as javascript can do all sorts of evil things such as this.

The attack detected by the Tor Project recently is MUCH more serious. It involves running hundreds of malicious Tor nodes and using traffic analysis techniques to determine the users IP. It was also used to determine the IP's of the hidden services they were visiting. This kind of attack was already well known in theory, it is just the first time someone has successfully pulled it off, especially in a large scale and for such a long time (5 months).

Additionally it shows a huge failure on the part of the Tor Project as they had actually detected these malicious nodes hours after they originally came online in January but they thought that it wasn't enough nodes to pull off the attack.

Please note that this attack was ONLY executed against people visiting Tor hidden services. If you used Tor for general internet browsing you are unaffected. In addition it has been found out that the attack was executed by security researchers and it appears they are going to destroy all the information they collected (users IP's) so we dodged a bullet this time.
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