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Topic: Was Bitcoin actually just a Pump and Dump? (Read 45041 times)

newbie
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March 23, 2018, 04:05:16 AM
This is an open discussion, so your thoughts more than welcome.

Here is what i think that happened:

"A few people with a lot of money, a few brilliant ideas and the will to fuck everyone up in order to make loads more money came up with a great idea: let's create digital money, some bullshit about fighting banks, some japanese guy that doesn't really exist, silkroad for a bit.
Let's give this Bitcoin thing value by pumping the hell out of it, and let it drop on  a bunch of unwanted childs that dream of getting rich with this shit.
In the Meantime we will have an organized ring of scammers ( Karpelles, cryptorush, mintpal.. etc etc .. ) that will make us even richer.
We will also have another organized ring of scammers/devs that will create new coins so we can pump and dump the hell out of them to make even more and more money.
Once this shit gets regulated we will just leave with more billions and see ya"









bitcoin is very interesting, i dont know why bitcoin like that. so far im confident invest with bitcoin
hero member
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February 02, 2018, 02:27:29 AM
Pump and dump is a scheme that attempts to boost the price of a stock through recommendations based on false, misleading or greatly exaggerated statements. The perpetrators of this scheme, who already have an established position in the company's stock, sell their positions after the hype has led to a higher share price. This practice is illegal based on securities law and can lead to heavy fines.

Who is pumping and dumping bitcoin? There is no central authority for Bitcoin. It was created by Satoshi and work carried on by other developers. And when will the dump happen?

In normal pump and dump schemes the product has no utility and the investors dump it after they have found a few fools to buy their stock. this is not the case with bitcoin.
Currently, we do not have much policies for the cryptocurrency market, this is the good point for the rich and the whale control the market without break the law of stock market. Therefore, almost the dump time are large and strong, ~30-50% per day (pump/dump).
This is why people are really after this market because investors have too much liberty here and they are supposed not to follow any particular government or policies.

You should keep in mind that bitcoin and other digital currencies are in high demand because they offer very much margin to investors regarding the investment. They are free to withdraw their coins at any time. Even if the dumps are longer, no need to get worried.
full member
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Pump and dump is a scheme that attempts to boost the price of a stock through recommendations based on false, misleading or greatly exaggerated statements. The perpetrators of this scheme, who already have an established position in the company's stock, sell their positions after the hype has led to a higher share price. This practice is illegal based on securities law and can lead to heavy fines.

Who is pumping and dumping bitcoin? There is no central authority for Bitcoin. It was created by Satoshi and work carried on by other developers. And when will the dump happen?

In normal pump and dump schemes the product has no utility and the investors dump it after they have found a few fools to buy their stock. this is not the case with bitcoin.
Currently, we do not have much policies for the cryptocurrency market, this is the good point for the rich and the whale control the market without break the law of stock market. Therefore, almost the dump time are large and strong, ~30-50% per day (pump/dump).
sr. member
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Pump and dump is a scheme that attempts to boost the price of a stock through recommendations based on false, misleading or greatly exaggerated statements. The perpetrators of this scheme, who already have an established position in the company's stock, sell their positions after the hype has led to a higher share price. This practice is illegal based on securities law and can lead to heavy fines.

Who is pumping and dumping bitcoin? There is no central authority for Bitcoin. It was created by Satoshi and work carried on by other developers. And when will the dump happen?

In normal pump and dump schemes the product has no utility and the investors dump it after they have found a few fools to buy their stock. this is not the case with bitcoin.
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Nah, don't think Bitcoin is just a pump and dump. Many people are believers of Bitcoin and want to see it grow and become the currency of choice in the near future.
hero member
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December 16, 2017, 06:24:57 PM
Based on the status of bitcoin. Pumping and dumping bitcoin could provide you income but its not that worth it since we could still see that bitcoins value is still increasing. This means that your money could have provided more value to you.
However, it's still a pump made by the human. It doesn't automatic become strong and increase more in the value. It depends on the whale are the trader have money to pump and dump. The whale need to do that because they do that to making profits, so dump time is also neccessary for them.
Sure the human beings are the one making bitcoin stronger, we are the power of bitcoin. It's time for all of us to understand that bitcoin has now entered into another phase. Everything has changes a lot and so are the whales strategy, initially it was easy for them to pump and dump the market easily but nowadays it's becoming harder for them. They can't dump the market now because they have threat to not to get back their bitcoin they thrown to the market because people are crazy for bitcoin and are eagerly waiting to buy bitcoin.
You can see the whale are making the price of Bitcoin does not dump below $10,000 again.
Do you think they want to keep the Bitcoin price be stable and higher than $10,000?
It seems my idea is true Cheesy.
sr. member
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December 08, 2017, 12:51:02 PM
Based on the status of bitcoin. Pumping and dumping bitcoin could provide you income but its not that worth it since we could still see that bitcoins value is still increasing. This means that your money could have provided more value to you.
However, it's still a pump made by the human. It doesn't automatic become strong and increase more in the value. It depends on the whale are the trader have money to pump and dump. The whale need to do that because they do that to making profits, so dump time is also neccessary for them.
Sure the human beings are the one making bitcoin stronger, we are the power of bitcoin. It's time for all of us to understand that bitcoin has now entered into another phase. Everything has changes a lot and so are the whales strategy, initially it was easy for them to pump and dump the market easily but nowadays it's becoming harder for them. They can't dump the market now because they have threat to not to get back their bitcoin they thrown to the market because people are crazy for bitcoin and are eagerly waiting to buy bitcoin.
sr. member
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HEX: Longer pays better
December 08, 2017, 12:35:08 PM
Based on the status of bitcoin. Pumping and dumping bitcoin could provide you income but its not that worth it since we could still see that bitcoins value is still increasing. This means that your money could have provided more value to you.
However, it's still a pump made by the human. It doesn't automatic become strong and increase more in the value. It depends on the whale are the trader have money to pump and dump. The whale need to do that because they do that to making profits, so dump time is also neccessary for them.
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Campaign Management?"Hhampuz" is the Man
December 03, 2017, 01:21:46 AM
This is an open discussion, so your thoughts more than welcome.

Here is what i think that happened:

"A few people with a lot of money, a few brilliant ideas and the will to fuck everyone up in order to make loads more money came up with a great idea: let's create digital money, some bullshit about fighting banks, some japanese guy that doesn't really exist, silkroad for a bit.
Let's give this Bitcoin thing value by pumping the hell out of it, and let it drop on  a bunch of unwanted childs that dream of getting rich with this shit.
In the Meantime we will have an organized ring of scammers ( Karpelles, cryptorush, mintpal.. etc etc .. ) that will make us even richer.
We will also have another organized ring of scammers/devs that will create new coins so we can pump and dump the hell out of them to make even more and more money.
Once this shit gets regulated we will just leave with more billions and see ya"






well i think we come this far with a concrete answer right?that the OP is right just PUMPING AND DUMPING and theres a rollercoaster riders that some shouting for joy and some are shouting for frightnes,those who shout for joy is the gainers and those shouting for fright is the losers..

It took us morethan 3 years to finally accept that fact right?lol
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December 03, 2017, 01:06:46 AM
Based on the status of bitcoin. Pumping and dumping bitcoin could provide you income but its not that worth it since we could still see that bitcoins value is still increasing. This means that your money could have provided more value to you.
hero member
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December 01, 2017, 12:08:39 PM
I do not think so, as we know that today the bitcoin marketcap has reached more than $ 130 billion, and it will certainly be difficult for anyone to create a pump or dump. everything happens purely from the market because of active users bitcoin trading.
It won't difficult as you say. Just try to make something that can make another person feels panic just like try to give a little bearish signal and then another will be following it. Since the bitcoin can be considered as the bubble and there will be a reason to call the bitcoin can be pumped or dumped.
Some predictions from those who called "expert" can make the price of Bitcoin increases or decreases, it is very easy. In addition, the rich (whale) can make the price of Bitcoin increases or decreases by their money, but it is high risk because they need to calculate careful the percent of others will decide as their prediction or not.
full member
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November 30, 2017, 09:59:48 AM
Bitcoin today has dump itself from to 574k to 500k at very quick time. So no buying bitcoin for now cause it dump for now. Maube tommorow or maybe next qeek.
hero member
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November 30, 2017, 09:09:08 AM
I do not think so, as we know that today the bitcoin marketcap has reached more than $ 130 billion, and it will certainly be difficult for anyone to create a pump or dump. everything happens purely from the market because of active users bitcoin trading.
It won't difficult as you say. Just try to make something that can make another person feels panic just like try to give a little bearish signal and then another will be following it. Since the bitcoin can be considered as the bubble and there will be a reason to call the bitcoin can be pumped or dumped.
legendary
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November 30, 2017, 06:08:24 AM
this is totally wrong. Bitcoin is not a pump and dump coin. You will never find enough beudget to dump or pump bitcoin.
Maybe if you can launch a tether fork then you will able to pump and dump.
member
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November 30, 2017, 06:02:09 AM
I do not think so, as we know that today the bitcoin marketcap has reached more than $ 130 billion, and it will certainly be difficult for anyone to create a pump or dump. everything happens purely from the market because of active users bitcoin trading.
newbie
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November 30, 2017, 04:16:43 AM
with simple word Bitcoin is a bubble .

many users talk about that because price multiply by 10  in 1 year . if bitcoin bubble it will be Huge bubble happen from long time .

just check CNBC will find many Economics  make analysis like that
sr. member
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November 30, 2017, 02:42:17 AM
This is an open discussion, so your thoughts more than welcome.

Here is what i think that happened:

"A few people with a lot of money, a few brilliant ideas and the will to fuck everyone up in order to make loads more money came up with a great idea: let's create digital money, some bullshit about fighting banks, some japanese guy that doesn't really exist, silkroad for a bit.
Let's give this Bitcoin thing value by pumping the hell out of it, and let it drop on  a bunch of unwanted childs that dream of getting rich with this shit.
In the Meantime we will have an organized ring of scammers ( Karpelles, cryptorush, mintpal.. etc etc .. ) that will make us even richer.
We will also have another organized ring of scammers/devs that will create new coins so we can pump and dump the hell out of them to make even more and more money.
Once this shit gets regulated we will just leave with more billions and see ya"

In a project in which so much money is handled, there could have been the possibility that someone would plan that, but taking into account the many years that had to pass so that the capital really began to be interested in bitcoin, it would undoubtedly have been a disappointing wait, without guarantees of success.

In addition, I believe that cryptocurrencies have proven to have a real usefulness to facilitate things in real life, so if someone plans to leave with the money collected so far, the cryptocurrencies would continue their evolution in an organic way because they are here to stay and improve the current economy.










Absolutely yes, they are actually pumping and dumping because of a supply and demand and the effect of segwit fork.Being a rising the demand it’s because to the users have investing there bitcoin and some are holding in several months and some are newbie in business so most probably
it adds to the community of bitcoin and varies or affect  the bitcoin movement were the graph population have increases more.
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November 29, 2017, 06:15:35 PM
This is an open discussion, so your thoughts more than welcome.

Here is what i think that happened:

"A few people with a lot of money, a few brilliant ideas and the will to fuck everyone up in order to make loads more money came up with a great idea: let's create digital money, some bullshit about fighting banks, some japanese guy that doesn't really exist, silkroad for a bit.
Let's give this Bitcoin thing value by pumping the hell out of it, and let it drop on  a bunch of unwanted childs that dream of getting rich with this shit.
In the Meantime we will have an organized ring of scammers ( Karpelles, cryptorush, mintpal.. etc etc .. ) that will make us even richer.
We will also have another organized ring of scammers/devs that will create new coins so we can pump and dump the hell out of them to make even more and more money.
Once this shit gets regulated we will just leave with more billions and see ya"

In a project in which so much money is handled, there could have been the possibility that someone would plan that, but taking into account the many years that had to pass so that the capital really began to be interested in bitcoin, it would undoubtedly have been a disappointing wait, without guarantees of success.

In addition, I believe that cryptocurrencies have proven to have a real usefulness to facilitate things in real life, so if someone plans to leave with the money collected so far, the cryptocurrencies would continue their evolution in an organic way because they are here to stay and improve the current economy.






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November 29, 2017, 06:13:05 PM
lol thats would be the funniest thing ever. but would mean death to most crypto coins. WOuldnt surprise me
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November 29, 2017, 05:44:39 PM
You do have a point but I think this is bigger than the Internet (or will be).   Bitcoin most likely won't be the end result of digital currency.   Something else will take it over.   What really needs to happen is have some integration with the banks and the cryptocurrency network.  That will be the true winner at the end of the day.  Something where you CAN store in banks as an option but pull it out and store on your own if needed.

Yes i agree with this because the price before the bitcoin reaches this high value foday the price of bitcoin first is just sic thousand dollars just an estimation and it is very low value comparing todays value.
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