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Topic: Was Bitcoin actually just a Pump and Dump? - page 9. (Read 45041 times)

legendary
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Maybe, at first when bitcoin was in its "infancy" everybody would have this claim. Today as we see some big companies like as Microsoft, Dell and Virgin Galactic are pretty happy to accept bitcoin as payment for their goods and services without consider many small stores and e-shops. Moreover there are so many people have their savings in bitcoin that seems to me will already have their own research about bitcoin. To summarize bitcoin is a reliable strong global currency even there is not mass adoption but sure is not a pump and dump crap coin.


Because if we analyze it carefully, The price has been increasing until reaching the current levels, it is true that along the way there has been an infinity of p&d or at least that's what it seems, for example recently, I not know if you remember very periodic increases and decreases in the range of +50 -50  in the  prices, now it seems to have stabilized a little more, then and recapitulating, even though you're actually right BTC is strong when compared to the rest, so although some people dump it, this  eventually  will recover as long as there is the demand that has been submitted up to now, but as time passes, this question will be further defined.
sr. member
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Maybe, at first when bitcoin was in its "infancy" everybody would have this claim. Today as we see some big companies like as Microsoft, Dell and Virgin Galactic are pretty happy to accept bitcoin as payment for their goods and services without consider many small stores and e-shops. Moreover there are so many people have their savings in bitcoin that seems to me will already have their own research about bitcoin. To summarize bitcoin is a reliable strong global currency even there is not mass adoption but sure is not a pump and dump crap coin.
sr. member
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It looks like s pump and dump from afar but if you make an effort to understand its development and economic principles you'd appreciate the fact that it was made to be decentralized - hence no central banks imposition of inflation and so the miners and traders are actually controlling the prices which is unpredictable depending on the buying and selling of Bitcoin at any point in time.
hero member
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Every trading item has always been pump or dump and bitcoin or any other alt wont be an exception but the issue will now be the volume that will really make a difference. The reason for that is because when I decide to sell my coins for Fiat then that is also a dump but the value I own is just not enough to make a difference in the price of bitcoin. So, I believe its about that, the rich money bags when they are ready, they continue to mop up the market to be high enough then sell and drive the price to the bottom for it to start gathering momentum all over again.
you can not control the price of bitcoin you can only a small trader or holder of bitcoin so there is no effect if you dump your bitcoin because you are just holding a small amount but if you are holding the amount of 1000 btc i think you can the movement of the price if you dump it all..
hero member
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Every trading item has always been pump or dump and bitcoin or any other alt wont be an exception but the issue will now be the volume that will really make a difference. The reason for that is because when I decide to sell my coins for Fiat then that is also a dump but the value I own is just not enough to make a difference in the price of bitcoin. So, I believe its about that, the rich money bags when they are ready, they continue to mop up the market to be high enough then sell and drive the price to the bottom for it to start gathering momentum all over again.
hero member
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It's the nature of bitcoin to have major changes in its price.
Everybody who deals with bitcoin knows that.
I even think that psychological factors are as responsable for the bitcoin price creation as the bitcoin whales are.
In bitcoin, times where we have no price fluctuation are rare, not the other way round.



You are right. Bitcoins price is volatile and so its normal to say that it is a pump and dump. Everything in the market follows this kind of rule pump and dump or should we call it properly as buy and sell. But even though there is a pump and dump bitcoin is still a true cryptocurrency. And if the creator made the coins to profit he will no longer need to create scams, hacks and other illicit jobs just to earn since if they hold a huge number of coins they will no longer need to do that.
i think the bitcoin trend is toward increasing and not going to decrease, although increasing the market take some correction therefore the price temporarily fell down and after that it start increasing again. so we can say that tie price of bitcoin is continuously increasing,
The next directions the market will take remain difficult to predict, but chances are low that we will see another crash as it happened a few weeks ago. And most of the analyzes I've seen so far point out that there is great potential for Bitcoin to deliver good results throughout the year... But it's hard to know what will happen tomorrow, or the day after... Short-term predictions are Something that I consider more difficult in that market.
Why you do not start considering long term price movements of bitcoins. I believe long term predictions will be safer for any investors as well as for traders. We never need to bother about short term fluctuations in that case. Pump and dump are common with the any trading instrument, so we never need to worry about those with the respect to bitcoin investments.
sr. member
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It's the nature of bitcoin to have major changes in its price.
Everybody who deals with bitcoin knows that.
I even think that psychological factors are as responsable for the bitcoin price creation as the bitcoin whales are.
In bitcoin, times where we have no price fluctuation are rare, not the other way round.



You are right. Bitcoins price is volatile and so its normal to say that it is a pump and dump. Everything in the market follows this kind of rule pump and dump or should we call it properly as buy and sell. But even though there is a pump and dump bitcoin is still a true cryptocurrency. And if the creator made the coins to profit he will no longer need to create scams, hacks and other illicit jobs just to earn since if they hold a huge number of coins they will no longer need to do that.
i think the bitcoin trend is toward increasing and not going to decrease, although increasing the market take some correction therefore the price temporarily fell down and after that it start increasing again. so we can say that tie price of bitcoin is continuously increasing,
The next directions the market will take remain difficult to predict, but chances are low that we will see another crash as it happened a few weeks ago. And most of the analyzes I've seen so far point out that there is great potential for Bitcoin to deliver good results throughout the year... But it's hard to know what will happen tomorrow, or the day after... Short-term predictions are Something that I consider more difficult in that market.
sr. member
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Actually, pump and dump is done in altcoins where market capital is small and price can be easily manipulated by big whales.They can pump the price for selling at high price and dump the price for buying the same coins in return at lower price.But bitcoin is a world wide market with huge market capital. So bitcoin price cannot be manipulated by pump and dump.But still, sometimes, situations in china have an impact on bitcoin price. Last month, there was a huge increase in bitcoin price fro $750 to $1150 followed by a immediate fall to $850 due to actions taken by PBOC.
sr. member
Activity: 378
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It's the nature of bitcoin to have major changes in its price.
Everybody who deals with bitcoin knows that.
I even think that psychological factors are as responsable for the bitcoin price creation as the bitcoin whales are.
In bitcoin, times where we have no price fluctuation are rare, not the other way round.



You are right. Bitcoins price is volatile and so its normal to say that it is a pump and dump. Everything in the market follows this kind of rule pump and dump or should we call it properly as buy and sell. But even though there is a pump and dump bitcoin is still a true cryptocurrency. And if the creator made the coins to profit he will no longer need to create scams, hacks and other illicit jobs just to earn since if they hold a huge number of coins they will no longer need to do that.
i think the bitcoin trend is toward increasing and not going to decrease, although increasing the market take some correction therefore the price temporarily fell down and after that it start increasing again. so we can say that tie price of bitcoin is continuously increasing,
hero member
Activity: 994
Merit: 544
It's the nature of bitcoin to have major changes in its price.
Everybody who deals with bitcoin knows that.
I even think that psychological factors are as responsable for the bitcoin price creation as the bitcoin whales are.
In bitcoin, times where we have no price fluctuation are rare, not the other way round.



You are right. Bitcoins price is volatile and so its normal to say that it is a pump and dump. Everything in the market follows this kind of rule pump and dump or should we call it properly as buy and sell. But even though there is a pump and dump bitcoin is still a true cryptocurrency. And if the creator made the coins to profit he will no longer need to create scams, hacks and other illicit jobs just to earn since if they hold a huge number of coins they will no longer need to do that.
hero member
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Bitcoin is not just a pump n dump coin. it's true decentralized currency

agreed, how come that bitcoin is pump and dump the price is very high and stable that can be consider. The only things most often to be happen is the altcoins doing pump and dump in different exchange platform.
hero member
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yes all types of currency always pump and dump theres no currency with a stable value. as we all know theres a change and progress in our economy thats why the currencies are changing but if you can see bitcoin is the only one that pumping up to $1200 and theres still possibility that it could pump up to $1500 per bitcoin.
yes there is pump and jump in every currency, but it is a little more in bitcoin because bitcoin is a new currency and people are joining here in a large number. therefore there is a lot of pump and dump in bitcoin.

Agreed, not only crypto currencies have dump and pump, also fiat have it, but don't forget we are making money from it dump and pump way.
And about the thread, when bitcoin has come $1030 than i thought now the time has been started when bitcoin come back, but imaginary nothing is bumping happened, even now bitcoin is again starting to going up and it stop at $890, may be in the next week, bitcoin might be grow up more than $900.
hero member
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yes all types of currency always pump and dump theres no currency with a stable value. as we all know theres a change and progress in our economy thats why the currencies are changing but if you can see bitcoin is the only one that pumping up to $1200 and theres still possibility that it could pump up to $1500 per bitcoin.
yes there is pump and jump in every currency, but it is a little more in bitcoin because bitcoin is a new currency and people are joining here in a large number. therefore there is a lot of pump and dump in bitcoin.
hero member
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I don't have any doubt that this was all just big pump and dump, but my theory is, even the BTC creators didn't realize that Bitcoin would go this far.


You are correct,  But even is like that look what happened to bitcoin right now. We have a big community in this industry, many of the companies all around the world adopted bitcoin unique system, and even in the other country they pursuing their fellow citizens or masses about in bitcoin. Therefore, it doesn't matter whether bitcoin is pump and dump.
Which country ? i have seen no one pursuing their citizens about bitcoin and even didn't intended to. if from my opinion bitcoin is basically a currency which can be easily pumped and dumped based on the demands-supply in the market and how the opinions regarding the circumstances were build to drive people on whether selling or buying bitcoin.
hero member
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I don't have any doubt that this was all just big pump and dump, but my theory is, even the BTC creators didn't realize that Bitcoin would go this far.


You are correct,  But even is like that look what happened to bitcoin right now. We have a big community in this industry, many of the companies all around the world adopted bitcoin unique system, and even in the other country they pursuing their fellow citizens or masses about in bitcoin. Therefore, it doesn't matter whether bitcoin is pump and dump.
legendary
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Of course that Bitcoin is not just pump and dump but I could say these two things are maybe something that people have focused the most and this is completely wrong. This partialy also because of human pshycology. Like many others have said decentralization is one of the true values and advantages of Bitcoin.
hero member
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It's the nature of bitcoin to have major changes in its price.
Everybody who deals with bitcoin knows that.
I even think that psychological factors are as responsable for the bitcoin price creation as the bitcoin whales are.
In bitcoin, times where we have no price fluctuation are rare, not the other way round.

sr. member
Activity: 350
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Bitcoin is created as a decentralized currency to make people independent of banks.It is successfully achieving for what it was created. Due to some big whales, some times pumps and dumps do occur, but still bitcoin is bought for its original worth.Manipulation cannot be done in bitcoins as it is mostly done in Altcoins.
sr. member
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In my opinion, Pump and Dump are not the only one. Gossip and issue also affect the bitcoin, but pump and dump are the most one being used by whale player. Actually every cryptocurrencies always have pump and dump and i think it's normal.
Sorry, I disagree with you. Bitcoin is created to be a currency that will give advantage to us better than fiat. Pump and dump is just for altcoin, some of developer is do that to get a lot of bitcoin in ICO. But not all developer do that. Most of developer only want to make an eco friendly algorithm.
sr. member
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In my opinion, Pump and Dump are not the only one. Gossip and issue also affect the bitcoin, but pump and dump are the most one being used by whale player. Actually every cryptocurrencies always have pump and dump and i think it's normal.
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