Topic: was gambling board restricted from merits? (Read 525 times)

My honorable manager.. I used honorable because at my early beginning you are among those who inspired me in one of my topic i created then though I can't barely recall where I saw that but I know you have then, so I picked up courage to advanced myself even though my post aren't quality enough for any other person but as student when you write exam you should be confident enough with what you wrote in your exam sheet right?

So when you talk of being confident, well within myself I knew I have changed a lot and of course you are right not all my post should gain merits which I know vividly that not all post gain merits over here, and again I don't have any space to go use AI to write, what then now happened with my brain if I may ask, I my too dull to release some senses from my upstairs?

No sir, sometime we can be able to tell those who are genuinely open to learn and to those who are looking for all means to grow by involving themselves in all manners of ai generated content to boost their merits earnings or their profiles.

And again thank you for the compliment, at least you have seen that I am not in anyway involving myself with any AI content so, I am pushing myself gradually even though some people seems to see me as someone who is not valuable at least a good review from you have also given me the courage to gear up myself. I still understood that rome wasn't built a day so, all my post most not receive merits and also merits as they said isn't to hold back rather to spend so if you spend some on me it won't reduce you from where you are rather will also count to those you have helped out.

Why not, yes I am still growing and any person in my position will want to grow in as much as am not holding back my merits it's a good thing to show about, and I have also learn a lesson from you to mind my spending meaning will be giving out as you said above.

OP what are you really saying? Are you telling us that you're new in this Forum or what? Your sMerit can't leave your account no matter long you decide to hold it, you act like you need a personal lesson on how to merit any post you feel is worth it. You said you were moved by the saying "don't hoard merit", my dear is your choice and the sMerit is yours, but saying what you said seems like you're looking for validation, between you and I we know that those sMerit will definitely not decay.


Hold on OP, this look like a clout chasing to me. Who are the people you're expecting to merit your post like you said? Is it that you want everybody on the Forum to merit your post before you know that members do merit your post? Hmm... You have about 600+ merit and getting to 700 anytime soon, or are you trying to say that all those threads/posts you started you don't have merit on any of them? Or are you saying that those merit you have they airdropped?🤔 And you're telling us that some members don't merit your post, hmm very funny.



OP we all know you have quality post in the Forum, but are you trying to say that you open more post/thread because you want members to merit your post? Like I thought you're among those who would advise newbies to post without having in mind that merit would be given to them (on their post)? We should try and practice what we preach.
And if you think the work load is much on merit source I'd advise you apply for a merit source because it seems like you're aiming for that.

 @Yahoo2278 and @lovesmayfamilis really hit the nail on the head but I'd just add my observation. You sound like you are more concerned for being a merit source more than anything else because just like you explained, you intended asking to know why the gambling board was restricted from receiving merits and as well ask for your local board and if my memory serves me right, I think a post was made by you championing the cause of more merit sources to be granted to the Nigerian local board and I'm here asking why not go revive the thread if you want to know of the progress report instead of saying one thing here and meaning another in this thread, thereby making your intentions look sketchy?
 If you frequent the gambling section (which you have pointed out that you don't), you'd find that while there are users who carry out meaningful discussion there, majority of the posts made are repetitions of what someone has already talked about or created. I even saw a post on this board, I think, were someone was lamenting about how four similar threads were made in the gambling section and they weren't checked or something. That alone should tell you why some are reluctant to give. Also, since it's your merits to give, give in whatever board you deem worthy of giving whenever you have instead of seeking permission.
 

I believe there should be a merit source for gambling boards this is the busiest board here in Bitcointalk because there are many promoters of casino signature campaigns and they have to keep the discussion moving and add new and fresh discussion, not only the post quota but the maximum exposure of the platform they are promoting in the section where it matters.
Honestly, I have to do some meditation and research on new discussions and try to beat guys like Bisdak40, Baofeng FinneysTrueVision among others for the latest match in boxing, we have to keep new and fresh discussions coming because the old discussions will become redundant if there's no new one coming.
I read that there's also a grading on some campaigns, merits will improve the discussions, but even if there are no merits there are a lot of quality posts and quality posters.

Campaign managers are more concerned with the quality of your posts than the total merits you have.  if you continue to make high-quality posts, even if your merits are low, you will inevitably be accepted into one of the campaigns.
You will only need merits to rank-up, meaning you only need a total of 500 merits, which is not difficult within 480 days.

I never known any setting in an account to hide the merit button.

Even if you add a specific board to your Ignore board preferences, the merit button still exists and you still can send merit.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=userid;sa=ignoreBoards

With merited posts in your Ignored board, you will see it like this.
Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored at your Merit summary page.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=userid

The gambling board wasn't restricted from merits.
It's just that, the board is becoming a second version of the "Bounties" section already, thus we are seeing repetitive posts from different users already, and if I'm the merit source, why would I give to a post that's been talked about multiple times already where I can just find another post that's more worthy of giving my merits to.

I'll be honest, I posted there as well when I was still with a signature campaign that required us to post there, but I will proudly say that whenever I post there, I always add content to the topic they're talking about. I mean it's either thru adding more information, or adding some details, etc. I will not say "all" but most of the people there are just repeating what the others are saying. It's like they're just rephrasing it. Maybe I've done the same in the past, but I didn't get merit that much in that board.

I want the posts from the gambling board to get some merits as well, but it will be hard to find one, and it will just come to a point where the merit source will find another post outside the board that's more worthy. I would be happy though if there will be a merit source who will focus on that board.

Several merit sources are active there and they tend to be active on the same threads more frequently over time. If you pay close attention - the few threads that get merit source attention tend not to be flooded with spammers, that's because most of the users there post something useful even though there are also repetitive discussions.

If you're curious about who I'm referring to - then check out LFC_Bitcoin's merit history and see how he distributes merit on the gambling board. Of course only on certain threads - but he contributes to the distribution of merit on the gambling board.

Not just on gambling board - but on some local board and discussion altcoin also need more attention from merit source. Some local board require the addition of new merit source - as do altcoin discussion board.

It’s true that threads in the gambling section quickly escalate to mega threads but in my opinion that’s not an excuse for the lack of merits in that board. There’s no way you can tell me that there is no quality post in the first five pages of those threads that deserve merit. 

I don’t think post quality is the major issue here, the probem is that gambling section has a reputation as a place where spammers dwell. If it is not so, then why does wall observer thread which I think has a lot of low quality posts have a high merit distribution rate than the gambling board.

Many posts that are of good quality there and are worth meriting are mixed up and are mostly in the midst of many other posts that are not worth meriting. It will take a dedicated merit source to be able to fish out quality posts there because of the numbers of posts that comes from there on a daily, it isn’t going to be an easy job for that merit source that wants to focus on there only. Merit source is a voluntary work in the forum, if any user feels they can do it, they can only be encouraged but the work will be vigorous for them to handle especially when we have one for the board.

• The speed at which the pages of the mega threads grow is very fast, such that quality posts are easily buried.
• Apart from that, the number of spammers in that section exceeds the number of quality posters
• Again, majority of the merit sources are not gamblers and do not discuss in that board 
• I have read one merit source application which focused on gambling boards. I am sure the application is not granted yet.
• The Sceptical Chemist handed out some merits to gambling posts, but at a time he stopped because he wasn't sure if he was meriting quality posts because he doesn't know about gambling
• No one penalises anyone who sends merits to gambling discussion boards 

Every post that 1 makes will not get merit man. Not 1 single user on the forum gets every post merited and believe me, we have some damn great quality posters who deserve more then they get.

You also need to consider that what you think is a quality post, may not be considered the same by other users. What makes you so confident? You using AI or just confident in your posts?

Here's what I see. You are active, you are earning a dollar, you have earned over 200 merits in the last 120 days. I think you're doing just fine. There are many who would be happy with what you have/are achieving currently.

Thank you very much my good manager I will adjust so I won't run out of merit, actually I didn't see that as a problem but giving out willing but I understand what you both are saying.
You are both correct maybe if that I was spreading only 1 as my mentor does i could have had some reserved, I was only moved by the saying don't hoard merits there is no essence of keeping them back. Wait a bit, could this be an attributes to why some people don't merits my post?

I know my post are of quality enough to receive merits but seems they aren't giving except I reported them to merits source, must people report a post before they could give someone merits I think that is why the work load is increasing everyday because if they give merits to post that are quality enough there is no way they will have hundreds of profiles requesting for a review.

You have said your mind OP and you are polite enough, and I must say that your thought might be aligning with the majority here, it is just that the way the forum is, there are too many segregations and most of those who are saddled with the responsibility to circulate the merits (merit sources) are shunning the gambling board.

They do not have an interest in going there because they have other sections that are their focus and campaigns encourage it indirectly. Of course, the majority of them are in campaigns and their campaigns allow them to shun the gambling board which aggravates the suffering of the quality posters on the gambling boards. You can be rest assured that if you are the best poster in this forum but limit your posting to the gambling board, you might not have a single merit in 6 months no matter how good you are unless you are lucky. It is that bad.

Well, some people have applied for the merit sources last year, and some claim they will focus on the gambling section, I hope it can be granted as soon as possible. But still, if the merit sources in such a large section where most activities are happening are not many, the impact will not still show. At least we need 5 active merit sources in that section to help it go around.

Also, I agree with you, the Naija board is not encouraging at all, it is just like a partiality when some boards are full of merit sources and merits are just flying up and down but some are so scarce of the merit. That is not fair to me. Nonetheless, thanks to the merit source like hugeblack, he helps a lot.

Pretty spot on assessment and exactly what I was thinking when I went through the OPs merit history.

@OP while you are free to spend your merit as you see fit, you really IMO shouldn't make a topic about merit if you are wasting them. For example: I see you gave 8 merits to Cryptoprenuerboss for the launch of a sig campaign. Nothing wrong with that except the fact that he is already a legendary, and it's a sig campaign thread. Nothing important unless someone needs a job. So as lovesmyfamilis said, just give 1 merit to posts and you can merit more people vs running out.

AFAIK, there are no active merit source in the gambling section, and I don't know of any merit source who frequents the gambling board enough to be able to find merit worthy posts. Sure there are a lot of garbage posts made there as with many other board, but I'm certain there are quality posts in the context of the discussions there.

I generally think the forum has a deficit in amount of merit sources for the general boards at the moment, making it more difficult for newer members to rank up, but the final decision to add more sources is up to theymos.

there might be posts that you find that deserve to be merited but overall the gambling board just does not have enough meritable posts compared to other boards, there are also a lot of spammers on the gambling board and it's probably the reason why people are reluctant to give merits on that board.

that's weird mine is perfectly fine, could it be a bug or a glitch? you made this post almost 2hrs ago, does it still look like that?

The reason why the quality posts in the gambling section are not mostly merited is that it's not among the sections focussed on the merit source and most of the posts in the section are always about gambling and things that do not provide helpful information for the newbie but it's mostly about marketing.
I believe this is the reason why merit sources don't focus on the section not that there is a certain restriction for merit in the section.

I don't count merit getting through the local board as merit that is worth it.

I don't know if Theymos is busy but I am sure that it take time for him to accept the merit source application filed by a reputable high-rank member of this forum.

Ok, what you can merits in topics like ''Do you think gamblers do retired betting gambles'' or in 1155th page of topic about one football leagues? I don't argue, there is good posts made in this board, but they get lost in sea of boring generic shitposts just after few minutes. C'mon, even people who are posting here barely reads other posts, so, don't expect that merit sources will search for merit worthy posts there.
Though, I don't think that merit distribution is such bad in Gambling/Gambling discussion board. Maybe you're just posting in wrong topics. From what I noticed, most merits are rewarded in self-moderated topics, topics of prediction pools andin general, topics with less activity. And maybe your posts just aren't good enough to get merited?

I have received a couple of merits on the gambling board mainly for OPs than for comments made. While I believe that there are still meritable posts on that board, I share your views that most of them are "lost in the shuffle."

I also want to see more topics merited there as it is one of the boards where I am most active on. My suggestion is that there should be more moderators on the board who would help keep there clean. Additionally, Mega threads that are not football or sports thread should be locked after a certain number of pages. Lastly, there should be more merit sources mainly for the gambling board.