Topic: was gambling board restricted from merits? (Read 417 times)

My honorable manager.. I used honorable because at my early beginning you are among those who inspired me in one of my topic i created then though I can't barely recall where I saw that but I know you have then, so I picked up courage to advanced myself even though my post aren't quality enough for any other person but as student when you write exam you should be confident enough with what you wrote in your exam sheet right?

So when you talk of being confident, well within myself I knew I have changed a lot and of course you are right not all my post should gain merits which I know vividly that not all post gain merits over here, and again I don't have any space to go use AI to write, what then now happened with my brain if I may ask, I my too dull to release some senses from my upstairs?

No sir, sometime we can be able to tell those who are genuinely open to learn and to those who are looking for all means to grow by involving themselves in all manners of ai generated content to boost their merits earnings or their profiles.

And again thank you for the compliment, at least you have seen that I am not in anyway involving myself with any AI content so, I am pushing myself gradually even though some people seems to see me as someone who is not valuable at least a good review from you have also given me the courage to gear up myself. I still understood that rome wasn't built a day so, all my post most not receive merits and also merits as they said isn't to hold back rather to spend so if you spend some on me it won't reduce you from where you are rather will also count to those you have helped out.

Why not, yes I am still growing and any person in my position will want to grow in as much as am not holding back my merits it's a good thing to show about, and I have also learn a lesson from you to mind my spending meaning will be giving out as you said above.

OP what are you really saying? Are you telling us that you're new in this Forum or what? Your sMerit can't leave your account no matter long you decide to hold it, you act like you need a personal lesson on how to merit any post you feel is worth it. You said you were moved by the saying "don't hoard merit", my dear is your choice and the sMerit is yours, but saying what you said seems like you're looking for validation, between you and I we know that those sMerit will definitely not decay.


Hold on OP, this look like a clout chasing to me. Who are the people you're expecting to merit your post like you said? Is it that you want everybody on the Forum to merit your post before you know that members do merit your post? Hmm... You have about 600+ merit and getting to 700 anytime soon, or are you trying to say that all those threads/posts you started you don't have merit on any of them? Or are you saying that those merit you have they airdropped?🤔 And you're telling us that some members don't merit your post, hmm very funny.



OP we all know you have quality post in the Forum, but are you trying to say that you open more post/thread because you want members to merit your post? Like I thought you're among those who would advise newbies to post without having in mind that merit would be given to them (on their post)? We should try and practice what we preach.
And if you think the work load is much on merit source I'd advise you apply for a merit source because it seems like you're aiming for that.

 @Yahoo2278 and @lovesmayfamilis really hit the nail on the head but I'd just add my observation. You sound like you are more concerned for being a merit source more than anything else because just like you explained, you intended asking to know why the gambling board was restricted from receiving merits and as well ask for your local board and if my memory serves me right, I think a post was made by you championing the cause of more merit sources to be granted to the Nigerian local board and I'm here asking why not go revive the thread if you want to know of the progress report instead of saying one thing here and meaning another in this thread, thereby making your intentions look sketchy?
 If you frequent the gambling section (which you have pointed out that you don't), you'd find that while there are users who carry out meaningful discussion there, majority of the posts made are repetitions of what someone has already talked about or created. I even saw a post on this board, I think, were someone was lamenting about how four similar threads were made in the gambling section and they weren't checked or something. That alone should tell you why some are reluctant to give. Also, since it's your merits to give, give in whatever board you deem worthy of giving whenever you have instead of seeking permission.
 

I believe there should be a merit source for gambling boards this is the busiest board here in Bitcointalk because there are many promoters of casino signature campaigns and they have to keep the discussion moving and add new and fresh discussion, not only the post quota but the maximum exposure of the platform they are promoting in the section where it matters.
Honestly, I have to do some meditation and research on new discussions and try to beat guys like Bisdak40, Baofeng FinneysTrueVision among others for the latest match in boxing, we have to keep new and fresh discussions coming because the old discussions will become redundant if there's no new one coming.
I read that there's also a grading on some campaigns, merits will improve the discussions, but even if there are no merits there are a lot of quality posts and quality posters.

Campaign managers are more concerned with the quality of your posts than the total merits you have.  if you continue to make high-quality posts, even if your merits are low, you will inevitably be accepted into one of the campaigns.
You will only need merits to rank-up, meaning you only need a total of 500 merits, which is not difficult within 480 days.

I never known any setting in an account to hide the merit button.

Even if you add a specific board to your Ignore board preferences, the merit button still exists and you still can send merit.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=userid;sa=ignoreBoards

With merited posts in your Ignored board, you will see it like this.
Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored at your Merit summary page.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=userid

The gambling board wasn't restricted from merits.
It's just that, the board is becoming a second version of the "Bounties" section already, thus we are seeing repetitive posts from different users already, and if I'm the merit source, why would I give to a post that's been talked about multiple times already where I can just find another post that's more worthy of giving my merits to.

I'll be honest, I posted there as well when I was still with a signature campaign that required us to post there, but I will proudly say that whenever I post there, I always add content to the topic they're talking about. I mean it's either thru adding more information, or adding some details, etc. I will not say "all" but most of the people there are just repeating what the others are saying. It's like they're just rephrasing it. Maybe I've done the same in the past, but I didn't get merit that much in that board.

I want the posts from the gambling board to get some merits as well, but it will be hard to find one, and it will just come to a point where the merit source will find another post outside the board that's more worthy. I would be happy though if there will be a merit source who will focus on that board.

Several merit sources are active there and they tend to be active on the same threads more frequently over time. If you pay close attention - the few threads that get merit source attention tend not to be flooded with spammers, that's because most of the users there post something useful even though there are also repetitive discussions.

If you're curious about who I'm referring to - then check out LFC_Bitcoin's merit history and see how he distributes merit on the gambling board. Of course only on certain threads - but he contributes to the distribution of merit on the gambling board.

Not just on gambling board - but on some local board and discussion altcoin also need more attention from merit source. Some local board require the addition of new merit source - as do altcoin discussion board.

It’s true that threads in the gambling section quickly escalate to mega threads but in my opinion that’s not an excuse for the lack of merits in that board. There’s no way you can tell me that there is no quality post in the first five pages of those threads that deserve merit. 

I don’t think post quality is the major issue here, the probem is that gambling section has a reputation as a place where spammers dwell. If it is not so, then why does wall observer thread which I think has a lot of low quality posts have a high merit distribution rate than the gambling board.

Many posts that are of good quality there and are worth meriting are mixed up and are mostly in the midst of many other posts that are not worth meriting. It will take a dedicated merit source to be able to fish out quality posts there because of the numbers of posts that comes from there on a daily, it isn’t going to be an easy job for that merit source that wants to focus on there only. Merit source is a voluntary work in the forum, if any user feels they can do it, they can only be encouraged but the work will be vigorous for them to handle especially when we have one for the board.

• The speed at which the pages of the mega threads grow is very fast, such that quality posts are easily buried.
• Apart from that, the number of spammers in that section exceeds the number of quality posters
• Again, majority of the merit sources are not gamblers and do not discuss in that board 
• I have read one merit source application which focused on gambling boards. I am sure the application is not granted yet.
• The Sceptical Chemist handed out some merits to gambling posts, but at a time he stopped because he wasn't sure if he was meriting quality posts because he doesn't know about gambling
• No one penalises anyone who sends merits to gambling discussion boards 

Every post that 1 makes will not get merit man. Not 1 single user on the forum gets every post merited and believe me, we have some damn great quality posters who deserve more then they get.

You also need to consider that what you think is a quality post, may not be considered the same by other users. What makes you so confident? You using AI or just confident in your posts?

Here's what I see. You are active, you are earning a dollar, you have earned over 200 merits in the last 120 days. I think you're doing just fine. There are many who would be happy with what you have/are achieving currently.

Thank you very much my good manager I will adjust so I won't run out of merit, actually I didn't see that as a problem but giving out willing but I understand what you both are saying.
You are both correct maybe if that I was spreading only 1 as my mentor does i could have had some reserved, I was only moved by the saying don't hoard merits there is no essence of keeping them back. Wait a bit, could this be an attributes to why some people don't merits my post?

I know my post are of quality enough to receive merits but seems they aren't giving except I reported them to merits source, must people report a post before they could give someone merits I think that is why the work load is increasing everyday because if they give merits to post that are quality enough there is no way they will have hundreds of profiles requesting for a review.

You have said your mind OP and you are polite enough, and I must say that your thought might be aligning with the majority here, it is just that the way the forum is, there are too many segregations and most of those who are saddled with the responsibility to circulate the merits (merit sources) are shunning the gambling board.

They do not have an interest in going there because they have other sections that are their focus and campaigns encourage it indirectly. Of course, the majority of them are in campaigns and their campaigns allow them to shun the gambling board which aggravates the suffering of the quality posters on the gambling boards. You can be rest assured that if you are the best poster in this forum but limit your posting to the gambling board, you might not have a single merit in 6 months no matter how good you are unless you are lucky. It is that bad.

Well, some people have applied for the merit sources last year, and some claim they will focus on the gambling section, I hope it can be granted as soon as possible. But still, if the merit sources in such a large section where most activities are happening are not many, the impact will not still show. At least we need 5 active merit sources in that section to help it go around.

Also, I agree with you, the Naija board is not encouraging at all, it is just like a partiality when some boards are full of merit sources and merits are just flying up and down but some are so scarce of the merit. That is not fair to me. Nonetheless, thanks to the merit source like hugeblack, he helps a lot.

Pretty spot on assessment and exactly what I was thinking when I went through the OPs merit history.

@OP while you are free to spend your merit as you see fit, you really IMO shouldn't make a topic about merit if you are wasting them. For example: I see you gave 8 merits to Cryptoprenuerboss for the launch of a sig campaign. Nothing wrong with that except the fact that he is already a legendary, and it's a sig campaign thread. Nothing important unless someone needs a job. So as lovesmyfamilis said, just give 1 merit to posts and you can merit more people vs running out.

AFAIK, there are no active merit source in the gambling section, and I don't know of any merit source who frequents the gambling board enough to be able to find merit worthy posts. Sure there are a lot of garbage posts made there as with many other board, but I'm certain there are quality posts in the context of the discussions there.

I generally think the forum has a deficit in amount of merit sources for the general boards at the moment, making it more difficult for newer members to rank up, but the final decision to add more sources is up to theymos.

there might be posts that you find that deserve to be merited but overall the gambling board just does not have enough meritable posts compared to other boards, there are also a lot of spammers on the gambling board and it's probably the reason why people are reluctant to give merits on that board.

that's weird mine is perfectly fine, could it be a bug or a glitch? you made this post almost 2hrs ago, does it still look like that?

The reason why the quality posts in the gambling section are not mostly merited is that it's not among the sections focussed on the merit source and most of the posts in the section are always about gambling and things that do not provide helpful information for the newbie but it's mostly about marketing.
I believe this is the reason why merit sources don't focus on the section not that there is a certain restriction for merit in the section.

I don't count merit getting through the local board as merit that is worth it.

I don't know if Theymos is busy but I am sure that it take time for him to accept the merit source application filed by a reputable high-rank member of this forum.

Ok, what you can merits in topics like ''Do you think gamblers do retired betting gambles'' or in 1155th page of topic about one football leagues? I don't argue, there is good posts made in this board, but they get lost in sea of boring generic shitposts just after few minutes. C'mon, even people who are posting here barely reads other posts, so, don't expect that merit sources will search for merit worthy posts there.
Though, I don't think that merit distribution is such bad in Gambling/Gambling discussion board. Maybe you're just posting in wrong topics. From what I noticed, most merits are rewarded in self-moderated topics, topics of prediction pools andin general, topics with less activity. And maybe your posts just aren't good enough to get merited?

I have received a couple of merits on the gambling board mainly for OPs than for comments made. While I believe that there are still meritable posts on that board, I share your views that most of them are "lost in the shuffle."

I also want to see more topics merited there as it is one of the boards where I am most active on. My suggestion is that there should be more moderators on the board who would help keep there clean. Additionally, Mega threads that are not football or sports thread should be locked after a certain number of pages. Lastly, there should be more merit sources mainly for the gambling board.

I think this restrictions was only sets from your account, my merit button is active and if I had enough merits i don't mind sending to them that worth meriting maybe who knows if same restrictions is also placed on other posters that was why merits has been in low supply over there.


Hey sis from another country.. Trust you are Good?
Sorry I am already lacking sMerits to distribute to those post, so if had there isn't a way i wouldn't have got those post merited and again, I have two post joined together I was asking about gambling board at same time speaking about our local board since it is also important to talk about it. The main reason why talks about gambling board is for my little period of being active i hardly come across post they merited even though i still finds them worthy i don't know if others don't see them as quality as i could this actually propelled me to say then if no merits source then I can become one but with the numbers of application queuing and piping down there how will my application be approved without considering others first before me. So there is no other agenda over here than my local board and gambling board these are the main reason for my post. Hope i got you clarified now?

If you like a post, why are you hesitant to give it merit?? It doesn't matter where he is. But you give yourself away by saying that you cannot give away your merits because you have come up with a completely unimportant reason for yourself. Your post is quite calculated, speaking about the gambling section, you smoothly transfer the problem to your local section. As a result, the meaning of the post comes down not to the fact that you are allegedly worried about the lack of sources of merit in the gambling section, but the main thing is a request for an additional source of merit for the Nigerian section.
You offer yourself as a candidate for a source of merit. That's the only way I see it.
But you can make a separate post-presentation in which you can prove which posts you consider undervalued, and you, being the source of merit, would notice them. Isn't that what people do who want to become sources of merit?
On the other hand, if you look at how you distribute your merits, then instead of giving 3–4 merits to one person, you could easily appreciate a high-quality post in the gambling section by giving one merit each

Correct, the merit button was broken in gambling board, that's why I can't merit you



Many, but there's no point to have merit sources in their local board, you can check the @OP merit history and hopefully you will understand what I mean.

The output of trading is profit, AFAIK no one dares to show their own signal/prediction since it will risk their reputation. If someone has a good trading history and many people get benefit from the signal/prediction, I think it will encourage people to meriting him.

If you find quality posts in gambling board, you can report those posts to merit sources.

Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source

Did you report any quality post from Gambling board in that thread?

How many active Nigerian posters are there? I'm sure that will factor into the decision on whether to add more merit sources for that board as well as the quality of the posters in that section might play a role in the decision as well.

I think we have plenty of merit sources personally, but not my call. Gambling board has a lack of merits due to the content being posted. A large % of the posts on the gambling boards is spam and deserves 0 merits.

People worry too much about merit. It'll come when it comes. It's not a race around here to rank up regardless of you wanting to earn more in a signature campaign. Most could care less if users rank up or not. Don't be in a rush.

Not only that merit sources are not gamblers, that may explain some of the lack of merit volume on the gambling board, but in reality, you should also keep in mind that there are users there who are holders of smerit and yet choose to use them on other boards instead.
I have never had a doubt on whether it was possible to send or receive merits there in the Gambling board, because I have myself received some merits and sent some as well.
My guess is that there are better places where to find content which is of better quality, like the Bitcoin section, the reputation section or even the Development section. Places where users are required to actually help others with their posts, or share information about software or hardware.

In the gambling section it is possible to find good quality in people who share gambling scripts or code, or meanful stories. I personally merited a gambler who got in debt, because he tried to chase losses in Blackjack.

This a good one you noticed. I have been in gambling section just a few times since I registered here and i found out that merits are not flowing in gambling section as it goes around some other boards. But not everything is meant for questioning so I pretended I didn't notice.

In all my time in that board I have seen quality posters but yet didn't receive merits for such. though it's assumed that most of those in that section just repeat words everytime so it's hard to know good post for merit source but for me I know one when I see it. if there was merit in gambling section people like Oshosondy would have been one of the highest merit earners there. because I have seen that guy appear first in like 70% of posts in gambling section and I admire his posting styles.

This is a very good fact about gambling section. they (we) complain for merits not circulating but yet they can't merit themselves there, so how then will someone who doesn't visit there regularly merit the post when people inside are not helping themselves.

You make a good point. Members who are active in the gambling boards (whom I suppose are gamblers or sport fans) do not give a lot of merits to posts in that section. From my newbie days, I didn’t see older members hand merits to gambling posts, and I think that also rubbed off on me. As you spend more time on the forum, you learn people have standards for what they consider quality post. How does one measure post quality in a football thread. Do I give merits to members who say nice things about my football club? And wouldn’t that be bias? It’s a dilemma, especially since there is no template for these things.

Well, some months ago, I almost asked the same question out of curiosity and was surprised at the quality of the post that did not receive merit on the gambling board.

But on a second thought, I have received merit once or twice on the gambling board, and that confirmed to me that merit is not restricted on the gambling board.

But what happened is that, just as merit doesn't usually flow so often on the off-topic board, on the politics and society board, speculation board, and many other boards, that's how merit is not usually distributed so often on the gambling board.

My guess is that most merit sources are not gamblers, so without visiting the gambling threads so often, they will not drop merit on posts unless they visit the board, which they don't.

Some people have been claiming that gambling boards are full of spammers. Maybe that’s why lots of posts on gambling boards are not really merited, only a few posts receive merit on gambling boards. I think it will be better if someone tries submitting merit source application for gambling board, maybe the person’s application is going to be considered, but I know so many people will be against it due to the high level of low quality posts that people do make on gambling boards, and I am sure the merit sources that we have currently are not interested in meriting posts on gambling boards, but to be honest, there are some posts on gambling boards that are worth merit but are not receiving merit.

I can tell you that as a merit source who offers to review members' posts for them, I've become quite suspicious of some of the posts in the gambling section, e.g., there might be a group of alt accounts posting nearly the same thing and all PMing me around the same time requesting a post history review.  That's why I made this amendment to my offer:


But that's just me.  I assume there aren't a lot of merits circulating there due to the numerous posts that are mediocre at best and perhaps the fact that not a whole lot of members who post in the gambling section are handing out merits themselves.  Eh.

I try to send merits to posts there but it's very difficult to find quality posts. I find it hard to even read some of the messages. It's the most active section of the forum, but it's so scarce in terms of merit. Because of spammers, good messages are lost in the shuffle. I think it's important to have an active gambling section for the sake of forum and I would suppport any idea to increase the quality and the merit circulation there.

Most merit sources don't like to merit the posts on gambling board, there are only a few merit sources who still merit the posts of the gambling board. I know only one such merit source who send merits to those who make good posts at gambling board.

A very nice member and a merit source The Sceptical Chymist used to send merits to gambling board posts in past but now he has also stopped sending merits to the posts of the gambling board.

I think gambling board gets so many posts on daily basis and that's why it would be pretty hard for the merit sources to send that many merits on a board like that. There are some quality posts that might get some merits but not all posts.

I think a better solution for that board is to have some merit sources who may send merits to the members of that board. But, so far I don't think that anyone is merit source of gambling board or its child boards.

I thiink some merit source would take the time to get a quality post on the gambling board once in a while - but yeah, the gambling board seems to be visited less frequently for the same reason than many other boards. So far I'm having trouble finding merit data especially about how much merit was distributed on the gambling board in the past year. I tried getting it from DdmrDdmr's merit dashboard - but I still failed, or maybe missed something.

In the past - I got some merit on the gambling boards, but I don't know if many posters got them too over the last year. IMO - many of users might also post something useful on the gambling boards - it's just that those posts are more likely to get drowned out quicker by a lot of other spam.

Gambling discussion boards are not restricted from getting merited.

The thing is that most of the people in there are either people who are already dried up from their merits, or newbies who can't give merits themselves. It's also worth noting that most posts on the gambling discussion board suck ass so merit-sources and people who are generally more generous when gifting merits avoid these boards cause they have this heuristic that it's not worth checking the posts/comments in there anyway cause they will suck. All of these contribute towards the lack of merits in that particular board, which is really sad but at the end of the day it forces people to really go out there and be more contributing and productive to the forum if they want their stuff to get merited, as well as have them make more constructive posts that are thought-provoking and not just to meet signature campaign quotas, so I guess it's all good still.

The gambling board doesn’t get enough merits because of the amount of unchecked spamming that goes on in that section. Also merit sources do not frequent gambling boards, they usually visit certain boards like Beginners & Help, Bitcoin discussion and Meta. We definitely need a merit source in the gambling section.There is already an application that is yet to be approved by Theymos;
cryptofrka's Merit Source application - let's improve the gambling boards

There's board that is affected even most of the local board are lacking merits if you look at the altcoin bounty section and any other boards that mostly records a higher spamming volume you would noticed that those board doesn't usually received enough merits from source. There main concern and focused is on bitcoin, technical or wallet related issues but talking of that section I doubt if any of those merits source will spare their merits to send across that board. Like few people above suggested you can apply for one there is nothing wrong if you do who knows how things works out I guess you might accepted as one.

Well if you don't mind then why don't you drop your application to be in the waiting list since you already said he might give or make those that first applied merit source before meeting up new ones and if you wait around then the line just keeps getting longer . I would like to see that the gambling board has some merit source focus there although their are some few thread that are merited by others users but the alarming rate of unmerited posts is far beyond.

While its true that gambling board has a big amount of low quality posts due signature campaign requirements, the main reason why there's lack of merit is due fact that not enough merit sources are active there, which is something I hope to be chanmged next time when theymos deided to readjust the merit.


There is at least one merit source application aimed at gambling board that I know of.

In a meantime, you can report merit worthy posts to this thread

The Gambling board just like most altcoin boards and discussion boards are on ignore by most merit sources, so the best thing to do is to grant spendable merits to merit source applicants that are active in such boards.

Try and apply to be a merit source. Theymos does not grand merit source powers every time someone new applies, but once in a while he accepts lots of merit source applications at ago.

Which means some people can apply for merit source for gambling related posts. I will like to see some people make such an application.

Theymos knows where those merit sources are posting before choosing them. So you can not blame the merit sources. Do not forget that this is a bitcoin forum. People like CryptopreneurBrainboss applied for merit source for altcoin board in the past and theymos made him a merit source. Do not think theymos will focus on altcoin boards like the bitcoin boards, but those that are interested can still apply for merit source and indicate how they want to also focus on altcoin boards so that theymos can look into it.

It is worth trying. A time is coming that theymos will choose new merit sources to add while some that are not active will be removed.

You think I will be accepted just like that 😂
After series of application pending to become merits source?
Though I can't limit myself but I know there may be other members who might applied for this position so even though theymos must give it should those who had already applied before me except he has his own ways of accepting approving and pointing new merits source. I don't mind if he makes me merits source then I will look towards local and gambling board.

First thing first no board Is actually restricted from receiving merits, the reason why merit is less or not giving at all to that board is because it is where the forum most spam posts are posted due to some campaign rules. That doesn’t mean you can’t merit those posts. Just that some merit source are not even into gambling related stuffs and find it’s hard to fish out quality post and merit. The Sceptical Chymist was actually accepting reviews from that board before but stopped because he isn’t into gambling stuffs and to fish out quality post from there was an issue.

The gambling is not even the only board getting merits source attentions even altcoin boards also suffer from this lack of merit and I can blame the merits source much because they lack the knowledge of that particular board and also spammers exploit those boards too.

Not only gambling board but also trading discussion. Most merits source do not like boards that deals with some risks. That was what I thought about it in the past. Because gambling and trading are both risky. Even for the ones that are merit sources, probably they might think why giving merit to some posts that deals with something risky. I just do not know why gambling and trading discussion boards are like that.

Although if you take a look at some posts that are of higher qualities on both boards, they are merited. But such posts of high quality and such quality posts are not just many on gambling board.

But as for me, I do not care. I post more on these boards but I am still able to get some merits, but mostly not from the gambling board. If you think you want to help, you can apply for merit source because of gambling board. It is likely that theymos might make you a merit source when theymos is choosing new merit sources.

The gambling board is not restricted by merit; a few people still earn merit from it, but it's not common to earn merit from it. This is because it's hard to find a merit-worthy post in it as they are almost topic-repeated from time to time, and a lot of signature posters are trying to meet up with their weekly post quota, flooding the gambling board, so I don't think it's healthy to spend time there to earn a merit-worthy post.

I know this thread is not that called for but I don't know if there is any restrictions sets on the gambling board because from my view and understanding I noticed other board are free from meriting posts that are quality enough I have also gone through the gambling sections there are quality post I do finds out but I can't barely merits them because I am not a merits source neither do I have merits to spray like those who are with enough merits to send across.

Please is there anything I am yet to understand about the gambling section whereas other sections are circulating merits enough, even our Nigerian local board merits source needs to increased his allocation if not for someone who has volunteered to be sending across the locals.
Though have promised myself not to raised any topic that talks about merits maybe it seems I will have to apply as one who knows if I will accepted, and the issues here is that theymos isnt giving us enough attention that is needed. I know he is a very busy person yes I don't need to bug him because there is a lot to face on but at least he should recognized us by additionally adding one merits source to us we the Nigeria local board and the child board we the local poster will forever be grateful for that.