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February 08, 2013, 07:25:47 PM
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Tall things get hit by lightning. Film at 11.
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Does not make it kinetic energy.
ki·net·ic  
/kəˈnetik/
Adjective
Of, relating to, or resulting from motion.
(of a work of art) Depending on movement for its effect


That's like saying a kid who is doing great in his studies has a lot of potential energy. I'm done.
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I've watched the entire thing, but more or less watched it for laughs.  I don't take much seriously.
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This is really rather pointless...
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chemical energy
At the molecular level, it's just atomic and subatomic particles moving around

Does not make it kinetic energy.
ki·net·ic 
/kəˈnetik/
Adjective
Of, relating to, or resulting from motion.
(of a work of art) Depending on movement for its effect


For the laughable purposes this thread has, we can assume energy to be kinetic.

I'm certainly starting to assume something but it isn't that.
Assume whatever you want.

Back to the thread... no, the pyramids were not built by aliens, and no, most of what's being "read into" the pyramids does not necessitate a giant switch in our understanding of the Egyptians. The geometry is obviously derived deliberately. How much of the History channel do you people watch?
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Need to go back and watch Ancient Aliens Season 1 , they went into great detail about some of the pyramids  Cheesy

You watched the whole series? I couldn't stand more than a few random episodes.  Shocked
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Need to go back and watch Ancient Aliens Season 1 , they went into great detail about some of the pyramids  Cheesy
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energy stored in electron spins (I forget that one)
Sounds suspiciously kinetic

Spin alignment in a magnetic field? Howso?


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chemical energy
At the molecular level, it's just atomic and subatomic particles moving around

Does not make it kinetic energy.


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latent heat of vaporization
Again, heat is "average kinetic energy"

For an ideal gas.


For the laughable purposes this thread has, we can assume energy to be kinetic.

I'm certainly starting to assume something but it isn't that.
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Then we have photon energy, E=hf, mass-energy equivalence (E=mc^2)
Again, try out unit analysis.
E = mc2
E = (kg)(m/s)2
E = kg*m2/s2

Sound familiar? Force * distance


Energy has the same unit (J) in all forms and thus will always be susceptible to such dimensional-analysis tricks. That doesn't mean that it all breaks down into kinetic energy.
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Generally, most/all energy is kinetic, depending on how you look at it. Heat is "average kinetic energy", motion on a very small scale. Potential energy is basically stored kinetic energy.

Given that energy can be converted between forms, saying that one form is a "stored" form of another doesn't really mean that the two are identical.

Then we have photon energy, E=hf, mass-energy equivalence (E=mc^2)
Again, try out unit analysis.
E = mc2
E = (kg)(m/s)2
E = kg*m2/s2

Sound familiar? Force * distance

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energy stored in electron spins (I forget that one)
Sounds suspiciously kinetic
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chemical energy
At the molecular level, it's just atomic and subatomic particles moving around
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latent heat of vaporization
Again, heat is "average kinetic energy"


For the laughable purposes this thread has, we can assume energy to be kinetic.
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lols.
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According to physics there is heat, electricity, magnetism, electromagnetism and kinetic energy.

These are simply different manifestations of the same one energy.

So I ask you again: Which of those are the pyramids supposed to harvest?

I'm speculating here (as I haven't studied pyramids extensively), but I can imagine that certain geometric configurations might have non-local effects on distribution of energy within certain regions of space (either inside of the pyramid or somewhere outside). As a result it might have certain effects on consciousness of the people within those regions of space (either inside or some place outside). The rejuvenation temple comes to mind as an example, but I'm not sure pyramids were designed for that exact purpose.

So again it's not that they were necessarily built to harvest energy per se, but more likely to focus energy in a certain way to have certain effects. And if you are tempted to ask again what kind of energy, then my answer would be "The Field Energy", the one that permeates everything and the one we are all made of. Think of it as a stem-cell energy which can take any form depending on the geometry it traverses. Even in modern particle physics scientists observe phenomena of one type of "particles" decaying into another type of "particles", so those types of energy (heat, electricity, magnetism, electromagnetism and kinetic energy) that you mentioned are not intrinsic to themselves.

Oh btw: Are you trolling? That yt video seems way, way farther out than your usual posting style, can it be you brought that up just because I called you new age?  Wink

The right part of my brain (a quantum part) triggered a pattern recognition scheme and highlighted that particular video as fitting for the conversation content-wise, however the left part of my brain (a sequential part) recognized the form of the presentation as way too unusual for the population of this board to conceive and advised to proceed with caution. I then made the decision to proceed with posting and study the effects it would cause, as by not doing so I would have achieved nothing. So, yes, I like to troll at times Smiley

Here is another video that shows how interconnected everything is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4mDcvOsBDY
This time it discusses several scientific experiments that are being conducted at present time and touches upon topics of non-local effects related with frequency, vibrations and energy. We are making a very good progress in this area and maybe at some point our civilization will be able to comprehend the mystery of the pyramids and their purpose.
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Generally, most/all energy is kinetic, depending on how you look at it. Heat is "average kinetic energy", motion on a very small scale. Potential energy is basically stored kinetic energy.

Given that energy can be converted between forms, saying that one form is a "stored" form of another doesn't really mean that the two are identical.

Then we have photon energy, E=hf, mass-energy equivalence (E=mc^2), energy stored in electron spins (I forget that one), chemical energy, latent heat of vaporization and so on that don't really lean to a kinetic energy interpretation.
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The estimation of the age of the sphinx are based on erosions by rain. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Anthony_West
And nothing is better known than climate history of the last 10000 years... is it?
Radiometric Dating = Good
Luminiscence Dating = Much better (at least for that timeslice)
=> Pyramids are as old as the Egyptian culture and, sorry, not build by aliens or ancient ancient ancient cultures

The religious settlement Gobekli tepe has been carbon dated to a incredible 11000 years old.
Gobekli tepe and other very interestering sites like uratrean fortresses (Cavustepe e.g.) are very very strange places to be.. The gobekli "pillars" are one of the strangest things i have ever seen.. but hey, they are just 11kyr old.. not like this was unexpected for that region...
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How about mass * acceleration * distance?

That has units of energy but has no direct physical representation that I am aware of. The closest is kinetic energy (1/2*m*v^2). I forget how to rewrite that in terms of distance.
Generally, most/all energy is kinetic, depending on how you look at it. Heat is "average kinetic energy", motion on a very small scale. Potential energy is basically stored kinetic energy. In Newtonian physics,
Energy is a Force applied over a distance (Fd), Joules
Force is mass times acceleration (ma), Newtons
Acceleration is change in velocity divided by time (Δv/t), m/s2
Velocity is displacement over time (Δd/t), m/s
Displacement is change in position, m

So Energy, at least in the simplified Newtonian understanding, is measured in units of (kgm2/s2), and 1/2 mv2 is one way of calculating it. (Try unit analysis; they're the same.)
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How about mass * acceleration * distance?

That has units of energy but has no direct physical representation that I am aware of. The closest is kinetic energy (1/2*m*v^2). I forget how to rewrite that in terms of distance.
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How about mass * acceleration * distance?
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According to physics there is heat, electricity, magnetism, electromagnetism and kinetic energy.

So I ask you again: Which of those are the pyramids supposed to harvest?
Oh btw: Are you trolling? That yt video seems way, way farther out than your usual posting style, can it be you brought that up just because I called you new age?  Wink

No, you're doing it wrong. You just have to believe and then you can feel smarter than all those people who devote their lives to working in labs, trying to find out how the universe works.

Care for a crystal?
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According to physics there is heat, electricity, magnetism, electromagnetism and kinetic energy.

So I ask you again: Which of those are the pyramids supposed to harvest?
Oh btw: Are you trolling? That yt video seems way, way farther out than your usual posting style, can it be you brought that up just because I called you new age?  Wink
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Hehe, just like I ask this question to any new ager when bringing up the word energy I ask you this:

What form of energy are you talking about?

I'm not sure I understand the question, are there different forms of energy?
There is only one form of energy I know of, the one that animates this whole thing called Universe.
The rest of it boils down to geometry.
How this energy is distributed and how it interacts with itself is defined by geometry and geometry alone.
Even what we experience as forces in physical reality is just a product of geometry of the space-time itself.

There is a good video about it, but the background setup is way too new age for many people to take it seriously...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7R-QsYMX20

I'm not saying that pyramids were built to harvest the energy, maybe they were or maybe they focused energy into the Earth or something else entirely, but I wouldn't easily let go of the idea that geometry of the pyramids wasn't coincidental.

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