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Quote from: Pmalek on December 02, 2023, 03:07:45 AM

OK. Do you care to share some feedback about the initial onboarding process with a Trezor through Wasabi instead of the Trezor Suite?

Yes, the original text I wrote is now deprecated since Trezor has introduced native hardware wallet coinjoins directly through Suite earlier this year. This separate coinjoin account in Suite uses a new xpub that only communicates with Tor and block filters, just like Wasabi does.

Quote from: Pmalek on December 02, 2023, 03:07:45 AM

Ledger Live is open-source. Those who know how to could check that. I don't personally believe that Ledger or Trezor don't have knowledge of your master public keys and that those keys don't interact with their servers. At least with the Trezor Suite it can go through TOR. I don't think it's possible with LL.

But Ledger's firmware is closed source, so you don't know if the key material was compromised before you even got your hands on the device.

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Wasabi earned the coinjoin bounty prior to the existence of its 2.0 version, which far exceeds what was seen in 1.0

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Quote from: Kruw on December 01, 2023, 09:51:53 AM

Reputation for innovation
Wasabi Wallet was awarded a share of Bitcointalk's longstanding coinjoin development bounty, along with JoinMarket:

Quote from: theymos on May 29, 2019, 10:09:09 PM

Congratulations to the Wasabi and JoinMarket developers! JoinMarket pioneered a lot of CoinJoin science (and BTW, belcher wrote an excellent & comprehensive wiki article on privacy), while Wasabi is the first wallet that implements CoinJoin in both a highly-usable and sound way. As both a signer and a donor to the CoinJoin bounty fund, I'm thrilled that these two pieces of software exist!

Here are additional context about the bounty for other readers,
1. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2983911.
2. It's awarded when only Wasabi Wallet version 1 exist, before controversy of Wasabi Wallet/zkSNACKs exist.

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Quote from: Kruw on December 01, 2023, 06:36:56 PM

I guess I can't say for certain because I've never used Ledger, I've only used Trezor and Coldcard.

OK. Do you care to share some feedback about the initial onboarding process with a Trezor through Wasabi instead of the Trezor Suite?

Quote from: Kruw on December 01, 2023, 06:36:56 PM

Ledger claims that your xpub is never sent to their servers, but I think the 20 addresses within your gap limit is - https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/360011069619-Extended-public-key-xPub-?docs=true

Ledger Live is open-source. Those who know how to could check that. I don't personally believe that Ledger or Trezor don't have knowledge of your master public keys and that those keys don't interact with their servers. At least with the Trezor Suite it can go through TOR. I don't think it's possible with LL.

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Quote from: Pmalek on December 01, 2023, 01:00:56 PM

Any idea what's going on with Symmetrick and why he is destroyig all of his threads?

Probably has to do with this: Should Ratimov aka Symmetrick be in DT1?. Let's not derail Wasabi's thread regarding that.

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Quote from: Pmalek on December 01, 2023, 01:00:56 PM

I am aware of that. You mentioned in your OP the initial setup going through Wasabi and I asked how and in what way? Has Wasabi created a tutorial for it?

I guess I can't say for certain because I've never used Ledger, I've only used Trezor and Coldcard. Ledger claims that your xpub is never sent to their servers, but I think the 20 addresses within your gap limit is - https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/360011069619-Extended-public-key-xPub-?docs=true

Thanks for the feedback. I'll remove the claim from the OP since Ledger is closed source anyways and you have no guarantees about what they are doing with your private or public keys.

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Quote from: Kruw on December 01, 2023, 10:39:09 AM

The ridiculous petition was locked, I didn't start that topic.

I wasn't talking about that one. It got achieved and locked a few days ago. I meant the Wasabi thread with over 50 pages. But I see now that the OP went on a locking and deletion spree for whatever reason.

Quote from: Kruw on December 01, 2023, 10:39:09 AM

I don't recommend Ledger generally since it's closed source, so you trust them completely.

I am aware of that. You mentioned in your OP the initial setup going through Wasabi and I asked how and in what way? Has Wasabi created a tutorial for it?

Quote from: NotATether on December 01, 2023, 12:05:33 PM

To be fair, it was not a moderator or admin, the OP of the previous topic is still in a deranged mood and locking all his topics.

I think the petition thread was locked by the staff. The last post in it was from achow101 who told everyone to chill. After that it was locked but not achieved. Any idea what's going on with Symmetrick and why he is destroyig all of his threads?

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Quote from: Pmalek on December 01, 2023, 10:34:03 AM

Try to stay on topic and avoid posting nonsense to avoid having your topic achieved and locked by the admin team again. It should be in your best interest.

To be fair, it was not a moderator or admin, the OP of the previous topic is still in a deranged mood and locking all his topics.

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Quote from: Pmalek on December 01, 2023, 10:34:03 AM

Try to stay on topic and avoid posting nonsense to avoid having your topic achieved and locked by the admin team again. It should be in your best interest.

The ridiculous petition was locked, I didn't start that topic.

Quote from: Pmalek on December 01, 2023, 10:34:03 AM

On a serious note. How would this work?
You need Ledger Live during the onboarding process and initial setup. You need to install the crypto apps on the wallet. I guess the software already records everything it needs/wants at that stage. Trezors are shipped with no firmware installed on the devices, but I guess you can get all that from their GitHub. Can you install Ledger apps including the 3rd-party apps from their GitHub as well and set everything up through Wasabi?

I don't recommend Ledger generally since it's closed source, so you trust them completely.

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Try to stay on topic and avoid posting nonsense to avoid having your topic achieved and locked by the admin team again. It should be in your best interest.

Quote from: Kruw on December 01, 2023, 09:51:53 AM

Cold storage interface
If you initially set up your hardware wallet using Wasabi as the front end instead of the default Ledger Live or Trezor Suite apps, it will prevent your IP address and Bitcoin wallet addresses from being leaked to Ledger's & Trezor's servers.

On a serious note. How would this work?
You need Ledger Live during the onboarding process and initial setup. You need to install the crypto apps on the wallet. I guess the software already records everything it needs/wants at that stage. Trezors are shipped with no firmware installed on the devices, but I guess you can get all that from their GitHub. Can you install Ledger apps including the 3rd-party apps from their GitHub as well and set everything up through Wasabi?

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Privacy is your ability to selectively reveal yourself to the world. - [Cyperpunk Manifesto]

Official download ➥ https://wasabiwallet.io/#download
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Open source code ➥ https://github.com/zkSnacks/WalletWasabi
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Wasabi provides network level privacy
Other light wallets sacrifice your privacy in exchange for speed by leaking all of the addresses in your wallet to a third party server. This third party server also is able to see the IP address your wallet connects from, which can provide them even more data to tie your Bitcoin addresses to your identity.

Quote from: theymos on May 29, 2019, 10:09:09 PM

Congratulations to the Wasabi and JoinMarket developers! JoinMarket pioneered a lot of CoinJoin science (and BTW, belcher wrote an excellent & comprehensive wiki article on privacy), while Wasabi is the first wallet that implements CoinJoin in both a highly-usable and sound way. As both a signer and a donor to the CoinJoin bounty fund, I'm thrilled that these two pieces of software exist!

For everyone looking to improve their privacy, I highly recommend checking out Wasabi, especially over centralized "mixers".

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