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sr. member
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The support is a fu**ing robot, cant solve my problems and doesnt understand what i am saying, first i thought Waves was cool but this really sucks.

Greetings. What's your problem and could you provide a support ticket number # as well, please?

Thanks but i am already choose ETH to make a token.

Interesting, you chose ETH and in same time Troll Waves, Make nosense, The minute Trolls drop their bag of a coin they always comeback to that coin thread for Fud in order to lower price to buy back, typical Troll behavior Grin
sr. member
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Trolls, Fudsters and enemies of success are coming back in herds to this thread thats means something big is about to happen to Waves price  Cool
newbie
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The support is a fu**ing robot, cant solve my problems and doesnt understand what i am saying, first i thought Waves was cool but this really sucks.

Greetings. What's your problem and could you provide a support ticket number # as well, please?

Thanks but i am already choose ETH to make a token.
sr. member
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I am calling a lawyer later today and will show her @Adam Levine's post, maybe it's the best we can hope for now.

I lost too much to walk away, most in INDEX and Cryptocard which aren't being swapped now, not even for measly 0.05 WCT. INDEX alone should be +10k USD each fair value, especially with the action the last 2 months. Far too big a loss to just absorb and walk away from.

What happened to this guy, I remember him from 2014 when he was a nxtforum mod, he seemed like a normal guy, then he makes millions of USD and scams all his old investors, other devs, and some friends even. It baffles my mind why he is doing this, he made millions out of waves ICO which was funded in large part from coinomat, he should be able to easily cover the swap with some compensation for lost dividends and delays, the amount involved in total is not that large really, probably 25 guys who backed Sasha with large investments like myself when he first started coinomat as part of NXT community.

He lost his soul from greed, and his mind too, ALL his coinomat victims are long term crypto guys from the early 2013-14 years, some are heavy hitting devs in their own right, like jl777 and IOTA founders, NXT ardor LISK NEM etc, why scam anyone, but why scam those guys who will speak of it forever more?

Why scam me, I used to chat with Sasha often on Nxtforum, and komodo/SuperNET slack when he issued some of these coinomat assets on jl777's multigateway, like NEXTBOND this is personal for me, and very very very costly. I went balls deep on Coinomat  assets, wow, i fucked up trusting this prick, and thinking he would come good all these years.

Time for whiskey ...

This is fucking shameful behaviour, even in the cesspool of crypto  Cry
sr. member
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I am so disappointed,  after all this time coinomat asset holders are offered less than 3 cents per asset, this does not make sense,

- not all assets are being swapped
- all assets are swapped for WCT when it should be WAVES token AND compensation for lost WCT airdrop
- original coinomat assets had different relative values and NXTswap rates in 2016, in 2019 they all have the same WCT rate, why?
- the swap value of 3 cents is ridiculously low

This is totally unacceptable, I do not accept this offer, what about INDEX and Cryptocard assets, what happens with those assets?




Coinomat asset swap victims

I feel your pain!

It's time to accept the truth,

Coinomat asset holders who did not swap in 2016 have been scammed, Sasha Ivanov is NEVER going to pay you anything close to what he owes you for using your wealth since 2014. This is a reality!

@Waves.support will continue to ignore this issue (HIS BOSS IS A SCAMMER), but who can blame him, he's just a forum mod worker, not the person who stole your funds in 2014 and used them to make millions.

I have spoken to my accountant and this is the best course of action IMO

Do not swap your old coinomat assets for WCT

If you swap now you will get no value from your original NXT coins from 2014-16, you effectively miss out on the crypto boom from 2017, your NXT was worth peanuts in 2014-16, and the swap rate of WCT is peanuts now. Ivanov used your money to bootstrap his WAVES ICO which made millions, BUT, you get nothing!

I think Sasha Ivanov will never personally speak of Coinomat asset swap ever again, he is going to try and tough this out, ignore the whole drama, and hope it goes away. He isn't even bothering to swap all the old coinomat assets.

You can use this to your advantage though.

What you should do is convert the value of what your old coinomat assets would have been worth at the peak of the 2017 boom in December, assuming you had swapped them to WAVES, and convert that value into a personal debt in your local fiat, a debt owed by Sasha Ivanov to you personally for keeping your money past the promised swap date.

ALL his public statements since 2016 clearly explain the terms of the Coinomat::WAVES swap, and you are legally allowed to value Ivanov's obligation to you using WAVES value from December 2017 if you want, he promised the swap as early as April 2016 so the obligation to pay WAVES, (i.e. the debt) is beyond doubt, and you are legally entitled to value the debt and write it off "when you realised it wasn't going to be paid". This is the Tax law for most countries, it is for me anyway.

The original promise to swap is very clear, when WAVES DEX started, and as this was never done, the swap became a debt that you can write off when you first realised it was not possible to recover.

What you want to do is maximise the cost basis of the 'thing' you are going to write off, so DO NOT swap now!

I am picking December 2017 as the date to value Sasha Ivanov's debt to me, and he made it clear he refused to repay his debt with the recent email!

The debt was in WAVES, not WCT!

This will not let me ever get my money back, but it does mean I can file a police report for an unpaid debt valued at the peak of the last bull market, and then I can claim that as a capital loss for tax purposes to offset against other income.

It's better than nothing, 100% legal, you just need to file a police report.


I checked with an accountant today and he has a slightly different opinion than @Adam Levine, he agreed Sasha's victims should not swap their NXT coinomat era assets for WCT now, because "they're already sold", his opinion is the swap details were explicit enough to record the "trade" around the time the swap was promised, so he said there's no need to worry about keeping coinomat assets as 'collateral' for a debt, the trade happened BUT delivery was delayed/deferred.

His opinion is coinomat victims owned "rights" to WAVES with Sasha as the custodian exactly the same as owning WAVES held by a custodial wallet, so ownership is separate from possession.

This is good, my accountant agrees with AL that as long as we use a consistent inventory tracking method for taxation of FIFO, we can legally account for the stolen waves using FIFO, which in effect means the "disposal" event for the stolen WAVES can actually be used to reduce WAVES that you owned from as far back as the ICO.

Summary: we owned the swap waves all along, Sasha's email the other day triggers a disposal of WAVES (he stole some of your WAVES ), but we're allowed to use an inventory control method of FIFO that means Sasha theft of WAVES can be accounted for using another parcel of WAVES,  they're all fungible after all.

You can indeed sell some WAVES now, keep the funds, and record the stolen waves as being from a parcel purchased before the swap (where we record the trade and change of ownership, with no physical delivery), BUT, you can't swap now for WCT (Sasha owns the coinomat assets already, he just hasn't taken possession of them yet), and you have to report the theft of waves Sasha's email implied to POLICE. You can't  sell the same assets twice!

Better than nothing!

https://onlinetaxman.com/fifo-vs-lifo-for-crypto-trades/


Coinomat assets have to be the most depressing story I have come across in crypto, far worse than Bitconnect or The DAO
sr. member
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Average project not looking like a full scam...
..thinking about buy-in...
marketcap 200M+... No, thanks  Smiley
member
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The support is a fu**ing robot, cant solve my problems and doesnt understand what i am saying, first i thought Waves was cool but this really sucks.

Greetings. What's your problem and could you provide a support ticket number # as well, please?
newbie
Activity: 13
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The support is a fu**ing robot, cant solve my problems and doesnt understand what i am saying, first i thought Waves was cool but this really sucks.
member
Activity: 1321
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So many big companies announcing partnership with crypto start-up this year.
None of them with waves.

Tell me if i am wrong.

Hello. You can check all the current strategic partnerships and be abreast of upcoming ones being a subscriber of the official social media such as:
News & Announcements Telegram channel:  https://t.me/wavesnews
The official Twitter:  https://twitter.com/wavesplatform

Sincerely,
Waves Community Manager
jr. member
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So many big companies announcing partnership with crypto start-up this year.
None of them with waves.

Tell me if i am wrong.
jr. member
Activity: 32
Merit: 1
Just sold 1k Waves now.
BTW, pair VST/WAVES has disapeard.
Now trade is in BTC
WTF?

At least, this low liquidity DEX (considering liquidity of a market is that make a market) give me opportunity to park my crypto in USD and convert on the fly in BTC.
At least a kindda poor man stable coin option.....
Waves #39, projekt kaput mein Herr

Hello Mr FUDster Grin, VST/WAVES pair is working fine Cheesy, You dont need to Fud Waves to buy more because price is already very low Wink

I checked and u r right. I suspect a bug that day when i was trying to check VST price.

Still get 7.5 k to sell
legendary
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Telegram Shitgram who cares...  we need pump! Are we gonna grow wings and fly or not. Seven months have passed, noobs have been shaken out, its now safe to move up to a higher altitude. Waves is like a stupid toddler with fat thighs, cant go straight direction, just messing and mocking around like a goddamn slob. It just needs a nice leg kick for it to start moving.
"Safe to move up"? Lol. Pump will happen when you least expect it, Did you miss the last pump? Maybe upcoming sales of VST tokens will get Waves pumping.

Last pump? What pump? Are u retarded, open the fucking chart and look at the pattern. What do u think about the last seven months of waves progress? Huh  Cheesy
You're stupid. Wasn't Waves pumped to 0.0012 BTC few months back? You being stupid obviously bought at the top and now bitching about pump, Smart people sell and wait for opportunities like current one, I doubled my Waves with that pump. If you don't like how Waves is performing move to something else, Go cry somewhere else.
sr. member
Activity: 537
Merit: 259
Just sold 1k Waves now.
BTW, pair VST/WAVES has disapeard.
Now trade is in BTC
WTF?

At least, this low liquidity DEX (considering liquidity of a market is that make a market) give me opportunity to park my crypto in USD and convert on the fly in BTC.
At least a kindda poor man stable coin option.....
Waves #39, projekt kaput mein Herr

Hello Mr FUDster Grin, VST/WAVES pair is working fine Cheesy, You dont need to Fud Waves to buy more because price is already very low Wink
sr. member
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Tryig to survive in this harsh world
Just sold 1k Waves now.
BTW, pair VST/WAVES has disapeard.
Now trade is in BTC
WTF?

At least, this low liquidity DEX (considering liquidity of a market is that make a market) give me opportunity to park my crypto in USD and convert on the fly in BTC.
At least a kindda poor man stable coin option.....
Waves #39, projekt kaput mein Herr

No, the pair is still active, go FUD somewhere else.
jr. member
Activity: 32
Merit: 1
Just sold 1k Waves now.
BTW, pair VST/WAVES has disapeard.
Now trade is in BTC
WTF?

At least, this low liquidity DEX (considering liquidity of a market is that make a market) give me opportunity to park my crypto in USD and convert on the fly in BTC.
At least a kindda poor man stable coin option.....
Waves #39, projekt kaput mein Herr
hero member
Activity: 2147
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Telegram Shitgram who cares...  we need pump! Are we gonna grow wings and fly or not. Seven months have passed, noobs have been shaken out, its now safe to move up to a higher altitude. Waves is like a stupid toddler with fat thighs, cant go straight direction, just messing and mocking around like a goddamn slob. It just needs a nice leg kick for it to start moving.

well, noobs are obviously _still_ here, as your childish post proves

Who is speaking? Who are u? Another dobermann on the internet, aint I right? Dip ur barking snout into that litter under ur claws where u normally rummage for insectoids and juicy caterpillars. No one is gonna accept truth anymore. When u come out and speak up u only hear these puppies bark back at u as if they dont understand human language. Go study the chart. What is waves team doing ffs
hero member
Activity: 2147
Merit: 518
Telegram Shitgram who cares...  we need pump! Are we gonna grow wings and fly or not. Seven months have passed, noobs have been shaken out, its now safe to move up to a higher altitude. Waves is like a stupid toddler with fat thighs, cant go straight direction, just messing and mocking around like a goddamn slob. It just needs a nice leg kick for it to start moving.
"Safe to move up"? Lol. Pump will happen when you least expect it, Did you miss the last pump? Maybe upcoming sales of VST tokens will get Waves pumping.

Last pump? What pump? Are u retarded, open the fucking chart and look at the pattern. What do u think about the last seven months of waves progress? Huh  Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1012
Telegram Shitgram who cares...  we need pump! Are we gonna grow wings and fly or not. Seven months have passed, noobs have been shaken out, its now safe to move up to a higher altitude. Waves is like a stupid toddler with fat thighs, cant go straight direction, just messing and mocking around like a goddamn slob. It just needs a nice leg kick for it to start moving.
"Safe to move up"? Lol. Pump will happen when you least expect it, Did you miss the last pump? Maybe upcoming sales of VST tokens will get Waves pumping.
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darn i missed the whole air drop...

is there a new airdrop planned for waves ?? anybody knows it???

Hello.
There's no any planned airdrop, but currently we have a Waves & Huobi contest, check the rules and details in the telegram news channel: https://t.me/wavesnews
And soon will be launched contest from WSOC, you can follow their channel and find there all the details about contest: https://t.me/wsoc_io
Best regards, Waves Community Manager.


thx for the post... i am not in to the  telegram

i saw somewhere a link of discord , i cant find it ... 

do you have any link for waves-discord ?
Greetings again.
Here is the link to Waves discord server: https://discordapp.com/invite/cnFmDyA
You also can join our forum: https://forum.wavesplatform.com/
Best regards, Waves Community Manager.
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