Topic: WAVES - Complete Blockchain ecosystem for a token economy - page 162. (Read 131013 times)

https://wavesexplorer.com/tx/AJ3GN2KgdzdHyVJujfXqoMZ2g85dBBPMZ4DD4BJ7x6My this is the transaction of waves team sending 400k vostok to another address, then this address(3PLN1xskmoXTp6ZYSKgQKi9L4DMFPR7hcuv) mixed this amount through lots of different addresses and they ended up in these addresses which dumped them:
3P4ebfRpWP9TiZU8JjrT688WxfcmYw4pwvy
3PC3Ked5yvZxv5V5hob7Gbfoo5c3etZkqk5
3P7bBQz4hD71Exuk5EepHy9xqr7hrFy35dG

also you can see waves team, from their own address(3PNug6MW1LDnpJaYefJoVXcwtxydngamPav) dumping shitloads of vostok from the price 0.18 to 0.1 waves in 3 Jun 2019 - 12:42:29 UTC. here you can check the exchange transactions https://wavesexplorer.com/address/3PNug6MW1LDnpJaYefJoVXcwtxydngamPav

as you said we can trace back the origin of all transactions on the blockhain, and we did that.

It's a DEX, you can trace back the origin of all transactions on the blockchain.

I don't see any correlation between the trades, current price and wallets held by the Waves team, so please stop fudding or come up with proof (which you won't be able to find).

It's a DEX, you can trace back the origin of all transactions on the blockchain.

I don't see any correlation between the trades, current price and wallets held by the Waves team, so please stop fudding or come up with proof (which you won't be able to find).

sasha manipulating as always. 2 days ago waves team dumped about a million vostok tokens for 0.1 to 0.2 waves. now they're pumping the price to inflate the market cap. they will probably hold it around 1.7 usd until the public sale ends. then it's going down hard. there are some stupid people who believes "private investors" actually bought $120M worth of vostok.

indeed , its very odd , this is a big company .. the waves has nice technique , is fast  .... more to name but on marketing they sucks ...

tsk tsk , mln company without proper marketing ....

also an ico member .. still have my waves ..

hoping on big tsunami wave
 

Coinomat asset swap victims

I feel your pain!

It's time to accept the truth,

Coinomat asset holders who did not swap in 2016 have been scammed, Sasha Ivanov is NEVER going to pay you anything close to what he owes you for using your wealth since 2014. This is a reality!

@Waves.support will continue to ignore this issue (HIS BOSS IS A SCAMMER), but who can blame him, he's just a forum mod worker, not the person who stole your funds in 2014 and used them to make millions.

I have spoken to my accountant and this is the best course of action IMO

Do not swap your old coinomat assets for WCT

If you swap now you will get no value from your original NXT coins from 2014-16, you effectively miss out on the crypto boom from 2017, your NXT was worth peanuts in 2014-16, and the swap rate of WCT is peanuts now. Ivanov used your money to bootstrap his WAVES ICO which made millions, BUT, you get nothing!

I think Sasha Ivanov will never personally speak of Coinomat asset swap ever again, he is going to try and tough this out, ignore the whole drama, and hope it goes away. He isn't even bothering to swap all the old coinomat assets.

You can use this to your advantage though.

What you should do is convert the value of what your old coinomat assets would have been worth at the peak of the 2017 boom in December, assuming you had swapped them to WAVES, and convert that value into a personal debt in your local fiat, a debt owed by Sasha Ivanov to you personally for keeping your money past the promised swap date.

ALL his public statements since 2016 clearly explain the terms of the Coinomat::WAVES swap, and you are legally allowed to value Ivanov's obligation to you using WAVES value from December 2017 if you want, he promised the swap as early as April 2016 so the obligation to pay WAVES, (i.e. the debt) is beyond doubt, and you are legally entitled to value the debt and write it off "when you realised it wasn't going to be paid". This is the Tax law for most countries, it is for me anyway.

The original promise to swap is very clear, when WAVES DEX started, and as this was never done, the swap became a debt that you can write off when you first realised it was not possible to recover.

What you want to do is maximise the cost basis of the 'thing' you are going to write off, so DO NOT swap now!

I am picking December 2017 as the date to value Sasha Ivanov's debt to me, and he made it clear he refused to repay his debt with the recent email!

The debt was in WAVES, not WCT!

This will not let me ever get my money back, but it does mean I can file a police report for an unpaid debt valued at the peak of the last bull market, and then I can claim that as a capital loss for tax purposes to offset against other income.

It's better than nothing, 100% legal, you just need to file a police report.