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Close the federal reserve
legendary
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i forgot about waves for a very long time now , last time i checked my balance , waves was only worth around 1$ , today was a very good day to check that wallet again , i was into waves from ICO and after that i followed some time but things where going slow and i lost interest , good things must happened with WAVES
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Declared war on my family through embassy of colombia, france, sweden.

https://i.imgur.com/bRIejgh.jpg

Now, I must go and play diablo 3.

Pfff... Really? They can not turn back my 2 BTC within more than year, and even $7k, within more than half-year,
just because this amounts is greater then real, and not fake Waves market-capitalization.
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Maybe interesting...but i think a new thread would be great, here it's Waves.

this. Stop shilling your meaningless whatever-fork here and open an extra thread for it, tf
tired to become frequent enforced spam about it at this thread


Declared war on my family through embassy of colombia, france, sweden.



Now, I must go and play diablo 3.

difficult to understand.
here we are simple mortals.
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Maybe interesting...but i think a new thread would be great, here it's Waves.

this. Stop shilling your meaningless whatever-fork here and open an extra thread for it, tf
tired to become frequent enforced spam about it at this thread


Declared war on my family through embassy of colombia, france, sweden.



Now, I must go and play diablo 3.
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Maybe interesting...but i think a new thread would be great, here it's Waves.

this. Stop shilling your meaningless whatever-fork here and open an extra thread for it, tf
tired to become frequent enforced spam about it at this thread
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Maybe interesting...but i think a new thread would be great, here it's Waves.
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Who is in the TN team ?

Belgians (KYC on website). ICO in 2018 (100m max supply) was sold as a bot between 0.0002-0.00025 per waves when waves $4.75 but recently developed into multiple services and is now on the same level as waves with dex (desktop and mobile wallets), pywaves, token issuance, gateways.

It's same tech (NG) up to 1000tx/s. TurtleNetwork is revenue generating through blackturtlenode which is top 5 leasing node on waves platform, presently $7000/month, $84k year, yielding fair value market cap of $4.2m on P/E 50 (per 2020-11-21 trading 80% below this calculation).

Many investors overlook TurtleNetwork simply because it evolved from a botscript into a full scale operation which is managed by main dev with support devs as its was understood. New UI dex launched in june.

I am not going to hype TN and advice all in because of many alt burns especially in these small teams in 2018 in privacy nodes, but its worth a mention.

$5-$10k goes a long way when upside is x100-1000 within 24 months. Human factor is main risk, tech is good.

Friends and family own 10%/10m tn acquired at 0.0002 and are stealth selling between 0.003-0.005 and up. I was buying into this range without prior knowledge and almost got burned if it wasnt for good trading strategy deployed during summer which generated 1k waves back profit on 2k allocation.

0.024 was up for a short pierce but then sold back into 0.005 by ico sellers. When this sell wall is gone, 0.024 and over will strike, and stable range is expected similar as WEST, 0.05-0.12 after first waves of founders tokens are redistributed.

Project also generated side revenue from on platform fees by user activity such as leasing, trading, token issuance, transfers. Unlike waves 5% yearly unbacked inflation, TurtleNetwork staking rewards are from real user activity.

Daily tx is 6500 compared to waves 30 000, for those who use tx valuation methods. value divergence  tn/waves is 1/1000 ($700k vs $700m).

Userbase is 1/10th of waves, nodepower 40% of waves.

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Who is in the TN team ?
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in recent month waves doing very well, i sold all before waves jump to long to hold

enlighting me any news or fundamental thing happen on waves these days'

the price is steady strong even  btc on bull run, such support

and today they are very strong in the market hope that this will continue in the next day, and so that people will look again at this project and invest their money here
I just notified it on coinmarketcap, top search coin by now. waves is the only coin which you can sell without really impacting the market, but won't a good move right now. Waves is my top portfolio right now, just wondering how far it can go on this run. I won't mind start with $10 first.

haha interesting and prob right. but this is funny because waves is still shit.  but as usual those on the inside accumulate cheap and now because it turned into some uni/defi 'wrapped' shit, it's pumping.  congrats on making easy money but all the noobs buying it will get just keep being dumped on.

Good and relevant observation about defi hype as a cause for price movement. Last year I had a $7.4 exit target and it's still in play but may pierce above this level up to 500% due to defi fomo. Any serious investors who tracked my advice last year with 70 cent entry should consider partial exit at this level, but retain a share, perhaps up to 20% of original investment.

There is a difference between TurtleNetwork and waves. Waves is 1-2 years ahead of TN in development and if TN can obtain EU license for financial operations they are greenlight for Defi entry. Developers on TN telegram are debating USDN implementation but are restricted by regulations. If they go defi, forget this $700k present market cap. But timing is also important, hype does not last and even waves was late here. Waves pre defi market cap was 60m, for reference.

It's definately two assets you would want a piece of at this stage.

TN is the generational wealth generator imo, waves rocket left for orbit back in march and then august but will outperform all other global markets still over 5 years if they can get their act in check concerning those semi scams that are ongoing. They should repay investors now that there is alot of new money. And also support top 20 tokens with daily liquidity. Let top tokens compete for this reward, it will bring talented devs to waves for ico launches.
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In 6-7 months the price went from $1 to $7.  Shocked
Is there any news about the waves something like new partnership or hard fork?
Don't have any idea, but what i guess waves motivated by bitcoin moves. I can predict this effect due to all recent development, partnership etc. Now, whales playing with it again but here i don't want to see fast dumping after surging up.

I also feel big players are doing their job to move the market in upward direction to make the newcomer excited and let them buy on high price. But the recent performance is looking quite impressive as like it make the strong comeback after the hard dump.
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In 6-7 months the price went from $1 to $7.  Shocked
Is there any news about the waves something like new partnership or hard fork?
Don't have any idea, but what i guess waves motivated by bitcoin moves. I can predict this effect due to all recent development, partnership etc. Now, whales playing with it again but here i don't want to see fast dumping after surging up.
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Juicin' crypto
in recent month waves doing very well, i sold all before waves jump to long to hold

enlighting me any news or fundamental thing happen on waves these days'

the price is steady strong even  btc on bull run, such support

and today they are very strong in the market hope that this will continue in the next day, and so that people will look again at this project and invest their money here
I just notified it on coinmarketcap, top search coin by now. waves is the only coin which you can sell without really impacting the market, but won't a good move right now. Waves is my top portfolio right now, just wondering how far it can go on this run. I won't mind start with $10 first.

haha interesting and prob right. but this is funny because waves is still shit.  but as usual those on the inside accumulate cheap and now because it turned into some uni/defi 'wrapped' shit, it's pumping.  congrats on making easy money but all the noobs buying it will get just keep being dumped on.
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In 6-7 months the price went from $1 to $7.  Shocked
Is there any news about the waves something like new partnership or hard fork?
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A TurtleNetwork reply was very quickly deleted from this thread, so I guess there is merit to it.

It was mentioned that TN is a waves clone with identical services and functions valued at 1/1000th of waves. Similar as Pirl/Eth platforms.

TN is operating top 5 node on waves platform so it's certainly not off topic as the deleted post suggests.

Bitcointalk, you should not hide this type of important investor information from the public who is cruising with investment interest in these platforms. Let those who are able, participate in early x10 on TN if they have access to relevant info without censorship.

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/turtlenetwork/

http://dev.pywaves.org/generators-weekly/

So, go buy pristine TN at base valuation or go buy +1000% leveraged waves in Binance, of course there is interest in hiding this info, because its a source of generational wealth creation judging by tech validation as we have recently witnessed by platform demand evident in price appreciation of waves.

Also, repay the guy in the 2 posts above mine, he is top 2 investor in Marquise $Museum and was locked in WUSD for 7k waves/usd early this year. It would be worth $40k plus today. People don't like getting scammed for this type of money, simple life advice. If I did that to some russian investor, there would be a headhunt.

I share his sentiment, several million euro in inheritance money was stolen on my side by others, it's a huge blood feud with embassy involvement. These things don't just go away with time.

Here is his wallet, send this man 7000 USDN or 7000 waves which is what you stole:

3PPTYsB78vQ5B7to1PHmgW6Bqdkkfavdcjn

This is not the time to fuck around with arbitrary censorship, stakes are getting higher and the geopolitical situation is no longer patient of disrespectful behaviour. Everyone is on edge these days.

This is the price projection that was censored:

https://i.imgur.com/oHQtMVW.jpg

I already was providing liquidity at 0.024 so it will be cleared once ico buyers are removed sub 0.001. It's 10m tn sellside here, then parabola. There is 150k buyside at 0.0007 with another 100k provided every dollar up on waves. I expect ICO sellers be incoming/flushed out when waves strikes $10 and over.

if someone else takes those 9% stacks (9m tn) we can easily maintain 0.024 after that. It's $24m cap for TN on $10 waves, when waves $1bn. A solid x30 paper profit on your initial investment (7k waves at 0.0007 up to 10m tn into 240 000 at 0.024).

Forget WEST at 0.051/120m cap at 400m max supply, TN is the better move at 0.0007/$700k cap. When data is this obvious, people get censored as there is global hypercompetition for scarce resources with players like china and superpower military and as we all know, they own binance, cmc, bitcointalk etc. It may even be dangrous to hold some cryptos haven't thought of it until now. Can become a target.

Noone can help Binance for not conducting proper due diligence on waves tech, TurtleNetwork is an easy miss and they fucked up by not entering on 10% corner before pumping waves.

Thing with TN, WEST and others is you either have a dozen waves clones in which case tech value is effectively zero (which is possible in case b wave chart instead of w3 parabola).

Proper risk mitigation and wealth management requires a diversified portfolio between competing alternatives.

The likely outcome is that we will soon see merchant adoption and vastly higher valuation in this entire ecosystem built on waves, where waves is the main driver of development.




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waves is the only coin which you can sell without really impacting the market

Yes. But only if you do it right. Without centralized exchanges but with Neutrino Smart Contract and Curve.
Waves -> Neutrino (USDN)
USDN -> USDT (swap with curve)
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in recent month waves doing very well, i sold all before waves jump to long to hold

enlighting me any news or fundamental thing happen on waves these days'

the price is steady strong even  btc on bull run, such support

and today they are very strong in the market hope that this will continue in the next day, and so that people will look again at this project and invest their money here
I just notified it on coinmarketcap, top search coin by now. waves is the only coin which you can sell without really impacting the market, but won't a good move right now. Waves is my top portfolio right now, just wondering how far it can go on this run. I won't mind start with $10 first.
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in recent month waves doing very well, i sold all before waves jump to long to hold

enlighting me any news or fundamental thing happen on waves these days'

the price is steady strong even  btc on bull run, such support

and today they are very strong in the market hope that this will continue in the next day, and so that people will look again at this project and invest their money here
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Turtlenetwork is a waves fork with identical services/tech and functions as waves

For those who are late comers into waves as it went from 60 cents to recent multi year high of $5

TurtleNetwork is valued at 1/600 of waves ($525m vs $900k cap)

Write [email protected] if you are interested in this prospect and want to learn more


I invested in both Smiley




Every week, TurtleNetwork's nearly entire market cap ($600k) is reprinted by 100 000 newly minted waves.

This requires $500 000 worth of buying power even if not all of those 100k reach market instantly, every single week in waves platform. Imagine if only 1 weeks worth of this buying support would be redirected into tn market. You have x10 easily on any money put into TN as it will drive price x10-100. It only takes the click of a button, Binance is buying all waves to fund futures, they could do it easily and get an early 10% stake in TN while also paper profiting overnight x100 on that 10m stack.

Those huge $500k USDN stacks in waves dex is from generated futures fees.. Binance is hoarding waves for free, I don't think it's even all of the fees from trading, maybe 10-20% and they are swallowing the entire network.

Predict waves -90% based on TurtleNetwork valuation which is $800 000.

Same tech and services but cap divergence of x500

-90% would yield $40m/$4m for waves and tn caps which is fair value (if TN corrects +500% which is realistic and already proven 1 month ago briefly).

If waves remains at this level or continues up, TN will also vertically adjust at some point so in any outcome you most likely get x50 waves on every TN invested at 0.002.

It's not impossible that BTC could also drop -70% or more in waves bear case.

This hypothesis is derived from TN market cap anomaly combined with 2 year 2019-2021 crypto rally of +500%.

1 year Outcome probability based on present market conditions:

1. Bullish continuation top 50+TN anomaly adjustment, 70%
2. Bullish continuation without adjustment, 60%
3. Systemic bear, 30% or greater
4. Top 50 flip BTC, 30% but not without systemic bear preceding

It's a categorical mistake to call bull top before another x10-50 vertical but if TN anomaly persists, probability of top increases over the next few months. Supercycle top is otherwise expected by christmas 2021.



This is still valid considering TN anomaly which has not yet price adjusted. It's not possible to have two identical techs with x600 value divergence. Keep a very close observation on waves $4.09-$5.25 interval. If this fails we could be in for structural collapse sub 40 cents which is in line with Alessio Rastanis abc corrective scenario. Price of waves needs to move safely into $6.4 and up for parabola to remain intact. Once there, $10+ is open.

However, for now it does not look promising when waves is hovering at $4.8 interval as this proved multi year resistance since deember 2018 peak which failed at $4.64 and subsequently began a supercycle bear down to 54 cent wick, as I predicted would be bottom.

If price fails at this level a third time, 5 cents or less and possibly platform collapse is in the cards. After all, if TurtleNetWork - a platform identical to waves, can trade at $0.006 whats to say waves will not be at 5 cents next year this time?

In order to retain credibility in this prospect, TN anomaly must be fixed. It's a coalmine canary and also waves weekly spot chart is a disaster twin peaks of doom.

We shall see how it unfolds, I'd say about 50/50 for systemic bull/bear which is of course only adding to the uncertainty at this stage.



Keep an eye on mid $4.
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