Topic: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? - page 4. (Read 1593 times)

the OP must read this announcements from waves associations
https://medium.com/waves-association/waves-association-will-distribute-1-mln-waves-in-grants-to-foster-inter-chain-solution-development-7330e968a150
because waves is not a scam and fraud project

if you feel a loss for the project implementer, maybe the main thing you should do is to follow all the official channels of your project. then ask about your problem, maybe there is something that you forget, to make you lose some of the funds you have

I want to say, the following thing...
WAVES - this is instamined SCAM, which was been just sold for BTC, on start, on ICO.
I did deposit there 2 REAL BTC, and do not get nothing, for this BTC.
Only scam-shit-tokens, which is illiquid, and the price of this shit can only go down.
After all, after WUSD-scam,
I don't see any answer from emails - more then 1 month!
I did lost my last liquid asset - 7000 WUSD. I cann't exchange this, and cann't withdraw.
I did got NOTHING for my 2 BTC, and some tricky fat rat, just decided to keep holding my money.
SCAM!

Yes. If I'll issue 21,000,000 LOLBTC shit-Token on WavesPlatform with 1 billion LOLUSD shit-token,
I can inflate the volumes of trading this shit, just by exchange primine/instamine of this LOLUSD for LOLBTC,
many many times per day. And this actions can be automatized, by using trading-bots.

What do you mean? I think, that tedious and bureaucratic procedures (AML / KYC),
this is just a tales, to hold real money and not process withdraw-orders on centralized scam-toilets.
Because we are on the "free global market", and this is the main factor, which forms the real equilibrium price.
When some exchanges ask KYC before withdraw, they just lost clients,
just because this degenerative actions reduces asset liquidity,
and another exchanges withdraw this automatically, without any KYC.
For example, I just leave 6000 DOGE on bittrex.com, and never login there,
just because they did ask this fucking KYC,
AFTER TRY TO WITHDRAW MY MONEY.

But, as I said earlier, yes, I can process this fucking KYC/AML procedures,
if this will be really needed, and even show my displeased face,
because in this scam-platform, I deposited all our family budget.

KYC/AML need for the scammers, not for traders,
because, for example, after financial fraud with WUSD and WEUR
was been sold the following volumes of shit-tokens: 11977537.00 WUSD and 13211086.00 WEUR,
and while this shit-tokens are illiquid now, scammers continue to keep holding the real money,
without any KYC/AML,
from which the terrorism can be financed
and military budgets formed for inciting the wars in the World.

And, as I said earlier, WBTC-token was been issued by coinomat-address, too.

SCAM!

Pffffff. Yea, yea... This is just FUD, and no one do not lost ALL MONEY, AFTER SCAM.
You can think so, only in your mind world.

Waves is not a bench, you can say, for some people it is a top project, for some people it is not, but personally I believe that this project still has potential and if you study the project carefully, you can invest in it over time.

We could say that for most alts and bitcoin too. Why we need to think about who is using it, it's their right to use any coin as they like! Who thinks that crypto is an easier and better way will use it, for legal or illegal purposes. And everything can be faked, volume or usage, but why to go to that negativity. But it's why you need to be careful here and to check something before you begin trusting~
Waves is not a scam, this is just a FUD! Waves is one of the good projects, decentralized and every person can build something there, it's on us to recognize what is good and what is bad and whom to trust.

crypto_trader#43xzEXrP it is very hard to understand exactly what it is you are trying to say but I think you are saying that everything in terms of volume can be fakes and on an open platform, you can also wash/launder money,,, I agree 100% here but could we not say the same for most altcoins?

To keep the great position in the top of market, there is enough to inflate the finantial bubble,
by buying an any asset for already stoled, another people's money.
As you can see here, the [market capitalization] = [total available supply of coins] * [market price],
and while [total available supply of coins] value ~ constant,
[market capitalization] value is directly proportional from [market price] value,
and there is enough to pump shit-coin, and push up the [market price]
to inflate the [market capitalization] of any scam-shit,
up to top-ranked crypto-shit, which are sorted by [market capitalization],
and have the rank equal of position in this sorted list.

And there is no any dependency from stability of deposit-withdraw real money.
There can be a total scam, but this will have the high [market price],
just while scammers reinvesting and keep stoled money in buy-orders to buy their own shit.

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Pffff. Trading volumes can be a fake, and this can be inflated by trading just one trading bot,
and exchange his crypto to another his crypto many-many times per one day.

l don't agree with your opinion, it doesn't matter the project is in the top market or not. We can realize that there is really some project, which is in the top market, but it is also a scam. To be in the top market doesn't mean the project is so good or reliable. Maybe the team is working hard and as you mentioned improve its project, but l don't prefer Waves. Waves DEX was a good choice way back to 2017, now it is grave for many altcoins and Waves tokens, unfortunately.

It is very difficult to predict something about the future of the Wave coins, and in particular regarding the platform. But today, traders have good performance from trading cryptocurrency Waves, especially given the daily trading volume of 35.685.000 dollars. The fact is that waves have always collected a lot of negative reviews, as well as positive reviews, since its inception. In addition, until now, waves are considered to be a direct competitor to Ethereum and many cryptocurrency users compare waves with Ethereum in different ways. Nevertheless, Ethereum is at a level much higher, To which the waves are still far. In addition, the waves are friendly to the government, and they also have their own views on user verification and loyal AML / KYC policies, and in this regard, many cryptocurrency users are unhappy.

Im investing wave in a pas few years but I never said wave is a scam, I earn enough from waves since the time of bull run.
But we are in different ways on how to invest or buy wave, And in a platform for wave it was not problem on me and I understand and how to use it. Maybe they have more update in a platfrom so that's its hard for anyone to understand.

I was talking about 2019 and not 2017. 2017 was the time for ICO. You wrote that in early 2019, waves had a 10x growth and I remember it very well. But my question was, what was the reason of that growth? I don't remember any news during that time.

Yep. I'm not a big fan of waves but I'm following this project and includes to my watchlist in tradingview. The OP should change the title or closed this thread since he loss money due to not properly comprehend the mechanics of the airdrop.

They are also consistent on their product development which you can check on there official github.
https://github.com/wavesplatform/Waves/pulls

Waves is a solid project and I believe a very underrated coin considering all the product they achieve since the beginning of the project. So there is no way that they will be a fraud because of this airdrop. Anyway I have tons of shitcoin in my waves wallet because many user there are doing fake coin airdrop and that's the real fraud there.

Why they not to develop their platform on which they just can take and steal the other people's money?
It have some sense for them, moreover while their SCAM is still possible.
Maybe, in the future, you all can see the something, like re-branding,
and another bubble with your own money placed, in the orders, to buy this air-shit.

Caveat emptor.
And waves is highly underrated.

I won't label them as scammers as they are continuously developing their platform. Most scammers run away with their stash without making any effort on their platform. But this one, they seemed to continuously deliver some progress. But even if they introduced the waves.exchange, it seemed everyone is ignoring it. I know they have funds but why is it that they are not holding at least sig campaign here in the forum when they launched their new exchange platform? A lot of projects here can afford and more than likely waves is in better position than most of them.

I don't think Waves is a skam, because the project is in the top market, it has a team that is trying to improve its project, it's just not a good time and not everything works out with the developers of Waves.

I already described that scam-scheme in my previous posts.

All the ICO that promised big raised a ton of money and after that the end product was shit and that is the case with many projects, what is the real update on the waves platform, i am not hearing much from them and how they are going to change that is unknown, you can use it as a speculative market just like any other market in this space.

It is a really low amount of money to get a scammer tag, what i am trying to tell is if they really wanted to run away they would have rather than stealing just small amounts. If you could elaborate about the scam then it would be great as i cannot find any thread regarding this,

This seems like a fake, because now, market capitalization of all WAVES is 11400 BTC
according the data of https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/waves/
but this value calculated in USD, and this value is equal of total available waves * price of this shit
Where is another 22k BTC now??
If this is real market why they just stoled $7k, after WUSD-SCAM, holding it, and no any answer - more than one month?
I think the price of this WAVES is a fake, because they just buying this - for already stoled money,
and in real life there just sit a several rat's, who are ready to stole even few satoshies.
Otherwise, they would not steal money from traders if it weren’t a financial bubble.

I doubt the project is a scam, if it is a scam by now the team would have run away with the stash of Bitcoin they are sitting on. Waves team got luck got into the Crypto at the start of ICO bull run, was able to raise 33K BTC and rode it to the top. There is nothing special about project, the exchange lacks volume and no one is even using their platform expect all these scam-my airdrop.