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Is it true that one person invested 3000 BTC?
I'm already in so its time to fud rest of you to stay away from this ICO... you all welcome back after ico is finish:)

btw. yes that was one person, Sasha it self
Smiley thank you for making me smile.
all transactions are public, so it's very easy to see the money flow.
what's the txid of 3000 BTC transaction, please?
hero member
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So basically as more invest in this[ ] the less they will get as the price will rise so anyone investing from now is getting less and less.That is no better than a pyramid scheme or ponzi
Pyramids and partically Ponzi scheme is about how is profits paid. In last case it's coming from funds of new investors.

WAVES doesn't promise any direct stable profits at this point as I can see. U maybe'll profit from speculation of the coin, but it's up to some factors to happen. More BTCs in the project = coin is better distributed
sr. member
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Is it true that one person invested 3000 BTC?

I'm already in so its time to fud rest of you to stay away from this ICO... you all welcome back after ico is finish:)

btw. yes that was one person, Sasha it self
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legendary
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Supply is known. Bonuses are known. Structure is known. Are rules were set and were known before the ICO started.

It is good structure in our opinion and that`s why we chose it.
sr. member
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So let them state CLEARLY here what amount of "tokens" investors "donators" get in return for their remittance/payment/donation or whatever term they are choosing to use.
Let them also state clearly here who has already what amount of tokens already and what price they paid for them.

Everyone has own account and can see their balances. Balances are changing all the time while new investors are coming.
So basically as more invest in this[ ] the less they will get as the price will rise so anyone investing from now is getting less and less.That is no better than a pyramid scheme or ponzi.
From above: Furthermore this change of price automatically made the holdings of those who awarded themselves 15 million tokens 15x more valuable.Would you not agree that if you suggest a price and put it out there for people to be under the impression they are going to get X amount of tokens for X amount of BTC and then change that it is blatant misrepresentation on top of misappropriation of value in favour of those who awarded themselves 15 milliuon tokens to divide among themselves.

Are you totally ignorant or something ?
You clearly don't know what is a ponzi, check the definition please.
It is the exact contrary here : The early investors do not benefit from more investors.
Don't you know what's an ICO ? IPO ?
Do you know about math ? proportion ?


Superresistant ignore that ignorant newbie, hes clearly dont like WAVES, its more awesome than any ICO
legendary
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So let them state CLEARLY here what amount of "tokens" investors "donators" get in return for their remittance/payment/donation or whatever term they are choosing to use.
Let them also state clearly here who has already what amount of tokens already and what price they paid for them.

Everyone has own account and can see their balances. Balances are changing all the time while new investors are coming.
So basically as more invest in this[ ] the less they will get as the price will rise so anyone investing from now is getting less and less.That is no better than a pyramid scheme or ponzi.
From above: Furthermore this change of price automatically made the holdings of those who awarded themselves 15 million tokens 15x more valuable.Would you not agree that if you suggest a price and put it out there for people to be under the impression they are going to get X amount of tokens for X amount of BTC and then change that it is blatant misrepresentation on top of misappropriation of value in favour of those who awarded themselves 15 milliuon tokens to divide among themselves.

Are you totally ignorant or something ?
You clearly don't know what is a ponzi, check the definition please.
It is the exact contrary here : The early investors do not benefit from more investors.
Don't you know what's an ICO ? IPO ?
Do you know about math ? proportion ?
The numbers of tokens does not matter, you could have an unlimited amount of issued tokens, you are still buying a percentage of shares among a total of shares.
Having 1 coin or 1 billions coins is the same, what matter is the percentage you own over the total.
sr. member
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So let them state CLEARLY here what amount of "tokens" investors "donators" get in return for their remittance/payment/donation or whatever term they are choosing to use.

Let them also state clearly here who has already what amount of tokens already and what price they paid for them.


Everyone has own account and can see their balances. Balances are changing all the time while new investors are coming.

So basically as more invest in this[ ] the less they will get as the price will rise so anyone investing from now is getting less and less.That is no better than a pyramid scheme or ponzi.


From above: Furthermore this change of price automatically made the holdings of those who awarded themselves 15 million tokens 15x more valuable.Would you not agree that if you suggest a price and put it out there for people to be under the impression they are going to get X amount of tokens for X amount of BTC and then change that it is blatant misrepresentation on top of misappropriation of value in favour of those who awarded themselves 15 million tokens to divide among themselves.
legendary
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So let them state CLEARLY here what amount of "tokens" investors "donators" get in return for their remittance/payment/donation or whatever term they are choosing to use.

Let them also state clearly here who has already what amount of tokens already and what price they paid for them.


Everyone has own account and can see their balances. Balances are changing all the time while new investors are coming.
sr. member
Activity: 429
Merit: 266
So let them state CLEARLY here what amount of "tokens" investors "donators" get in return for their remittance/payment/donation or whatever term they are choosing to use.

Let them also state clearly here who has already what amount of tokens already and what price they paid for them.Furthermore this change of price automatically made the holdings of those who awarded themselves 15 million tokens 15x more valuable.Would you not agree that if you suggest a price and put it out there for people to be under the impression they are going to get X amount of tokens for X amount of BTC and then change that it is blatant misrepresentation on top of misappropriation of value in favour of those who awarded themselves 15 milliuon tokens to divide among themselves.
sr. member
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Much better structure was chosen. Otherwise one man could buy all tokens.
Yes it is a very nice idea balancing the coins, and increasing its price as well;)
legendary
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Much better structure was chosen. Otherwise one man could buy all tokens.
sr. member
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hopefully I will reach member rank, before this campaing ends:)
sr. member
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It's on my watchlist.

What is the price for the crowdsale?

The whole ICO structure will be announced next week. Preliminary it'll be 0.00001 BTC per coin, with discounts for early birds
watching for this ...will get involved in early birds
good luck



It seems that comment was removed?I sent a test payment of 0.0009 and in return was issued a balance of 14 waves tokens where in fact it should have been approx 90 tokens.Apart from the whole shady ICO/IPO it seems that the "insider" "earlybirds" have given themselves a huge stack of their premined tokens and misrepresented the price at the same time.

Can someone explain this?[/size]

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14492341

So now there are those who have bought earlier at .00001 and those who are buying now are having to pay multiples of that price?

No, ICO started with new structure where remaining  85 million tokens will be distributed in lCO procedure to participating users based on their contribution in the total amount of the raised funds.


Based on the amount issued for .0009 btc the current price calculation is approx .000156 which is 15X that price that was suggested and for anyone who is not a sophisticated investor or of low IQ or generally lacks much attention that initial price suggested would have been what was represented to them.Besides the point the secondary plan or new structure would not make any difference regarding the ability of one person/entity having the ability to buy the whole or majority of tokens and the changing of the price to this now 15x times higher is not consistent with that excuse.It appears simply a pretext in order to allow those 100m tokens to raise more ICO/IPO funds for those behind this subtracting value from those who are investing "donating" towards this ICO/IPO "project".

legendary
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mxxxxxx newbies are allowed to join at Waves Signature campaign? I see some newbie in the spreadsheet that have been rejected.

Members can join, look at examples of signatures in the ann.
sr. member
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mxxxxxx newbies are allowed to join at Waves Signature campaign? I see some newbie in the spreadsheet that have been rejected.
legendary
Activity: 2310
Merit: 1000
[/b]
It's on my watchlist.

What is the price for the crowdsale?

The whole ICO structure will be announced next week. Preliminary it'll be 0.00001 BTC per coin, with discounts for early birds
watching for this ...will get involved in early birds
good luck



It seems that comment was removed?I sent a test payment of 0.0009 and in return was issued a balance of 14 waves tokens where in fact it should have been approx 90 tokens.Apart from the whole shady ICO/IPO it seems that the "insider" "earlybirds" have given themselves a huge stack of their premined tokens and misrepresented the price at the same time.

Can someone explain this?[/size]

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14492341

So now there are those who have bought earlier at .00001 and those who are buying now are having to pay multiples of that price?

No, ICO started with new structure where remaining  85 million tokens will be distributed in lCO procedure to participating users based on their contribution in the total amount of the raised funds.
legendary
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I joined at signature campaign for WAVES, i hope my name appear in the spreadsheet Cheesy
Can the devs make a link to this spreadsheet in the OP please, near the sign campaign ?
You there
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RO52N5rh0-vu1DDzlBYdPjgq6w0YgmrKnJP6I8Nphfg/edit#gid=1340336905

If someone is not in the spreadsheet yet, or has strange status, please send message to AhmedAshraf

so how does the sig gets tracked?  is there something in the link?  i kinda modified my sig after signing up the campaign, does that affect it?


https://blog.wavesplatform.com/signature-campaign-details-e66628f761bf#.i7prpidmw
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