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Quote from: BoldNinja on April 13, 2016, 08:01:56 AM

Quote from: revelacaogr on April 13, 2016, 06:39:20 AM

20% bonus is already in the accounts .I think is on the fly ,Y/N?

Yes bonus is being added on the fly.

Can you explain how this is calculated? I mightbe wrong, but isn't the 85 milion waves just being equally devided between the people who participate? How can investors in the first 24 hours get a 20% bigger share? There aren't more waves available in the first 24 hours right? If 85 milion is 100% and there aren't more waves one can never get 120% or 102 milion waves. Do investors after the 24 hour mark get a less than equal share per invested btc than the people who did invest in the first 24 hours?
I'm really, really curious about your calculation.

If you invested let's say 1 BTC you would get 1.2 BTC equivalent of waves

Think about this:

The first 24 hours, everyone who bought got a 20% bonus (or 1.2 BTC equivalent of waves).
Ehm...
Impossible, because they cancel each other out.

So there is no way to calculate your bonus right now, only in the end when every BTC is in.

its on the fly.The bonus is already in u account.When you see a reduction IS FOR THE TOTAL AMOUNT (( BUY+ BONUS ))

No, because you can't calculate 20% bonus for an unknown amount. Jezus, math people.

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Quote from: Kotone on April 13, 2016, 07:58:01 AM

Quote from: lclclc223 on April 13, 2016, 07:53:35 AM

I tried joining the Facebook group 4 or so days ago, but the request is still pending. Is that supposed to happen?

Is there a group? I thought they only have a page for waves platform.

It's wavesplatform. It has a join button.

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Quote from: BoldNinja on April 13, 2016, 08:01:56 AM

Quote from: revelacaogr on April 13, 2016, 06:39:20 AM

20% bonus is already in the accounts .I think is on the fly ,Y/N?

Yes bonus is being added on the fly.

Can you explain how this is calculated? I mightbe wrong, but isn't the 85 milion waves just being equally devided between the people who participate? How can investors in the first 24 hours get a 20% bigger share? There aren't more waves available in the first 24 hours right? If 85 milion is 100% and there aren't more waves one can never get 120% or 102 milion waves. Do investors after the 24 hour mark get a less than equal share per invested btc than the people who did invest in the first 24 hours?
I'm really, really curious about your calculation.

If you invested let's say 1 BTC you would get 1.2 BTC equivalent of waves

Think about this:

The first 24 hours, everyone who bought got a 20% bonus (or 1.2 BTC equivalent of waves).
Ehm...
Impossible, because they cancel each other out.

So there is no way to calculate your bonus right now, only in the end when every BTC is in.

its on the fly.The bonus is already in u account.When you see a reduction IS FOR THE TOTAL AMOUNT (( BUY+ BONUS ))

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Quote from: trademark on April 13, 2016, 08:01:36 AM

Quote from: revelacaogr on April 13, 2016, 06:39:20 AM

20% bonus is already in the accounts .I think is on the fly ,Y/N?

Yes bonus is being added on the fly.

Can you explain how this is calculated? I mightbe wrong, but isn't the 85 milion waves just being equally devided between the people who participate? How can investors in the first 24 hours get a 20% bigger share? There aren't more waves available in the first 24 hours right? If 85 milion is 100% and there aren't more waves one can never get 120% or 102 milion waves. Do investors after the 24 hour mark get a less than equal share per invested btc than the people who did invest in the first 24 hours?
I'm really, really curious about your calculation.

I'm not 100% sure but this is what I think is happening. Dev's please correct me if I'm wrong. For example. Someone buys 1btc of waves, with the 20% bonus, they will receive a 1.2btc. For today, people who buy will get 1.1btc and so on. Make sense?

Not really hard to calculate since you know the amount invested after 24 hours, and total.

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Quote from: BoldNinja on April 13, 2016, 08:09:24 AM

OK for all those that don't quite get bonus I'm going to simplify it :

You invest 1 BTC on first day with 20% bonus and let's for the purpose of this calculation say 1 BTC = 10000 WAVES

First day 20% bonus you would get 1.2BTC equivalent of WAVES = 12000 WAVES
Second day and till the end of 10% bonus you would get with 1.1BTC equivalent of WAVES = 11000 WAVES
No bonus with 1 BTC would be same so 1 BTC = 10000 WAVES

So those investing the same 1 BTC later when there is no bonus will get less waves than those that invested yesterday for 20% or 10% that starts today.

Nope...

There's 85M Waves for the ICO.

So the first 24 hours everyone gets the 20% bonus, right?

Let's say 4000 BTC got brought in, that's 21,500 Waves per BTC.
But there can't be a 20% bonus yet, because you would need 102M Waves to do that, but there's only 85M available.

Imagine someone putting 50,000 BTC in at the 10% phase? ...

Only in the end of the ICO you can calculate / know your real bonus.

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Quote from: BoldNinja on April 13, 2016, 08:01:56 AM

Quote from: revelacaogr on April 13, 2016, 06:39:20 AM

20% bonus is already in the accounts .I think is on the fly ,Y/N?

Yes bonus is being added on the fly.

Can you explain how this is calculated? I mightbe wrong, but isn't the 85 milion waves just being equally devided between the people who participate? How can investors in the first 24 hours get a 20% bigger share? There aren't more waves available in the first 24 hours right? If 85 milion is 100% and there aren't more waves one can never get 120% or 102 milion waves. Do investors after the 24 hour mark get a less than equal share per invested btc than the people who did invest in the first 24 hours?
I'm really, really curious about your calculation.

If you invested let's say 1 BTC you would get 1.2 BTC equivalent of waves

Think about this:

The first 24 hours, everyone who bought got a 20% bonus (or 1.2 BTC equivalent of waves).
Ehm...
Impossible, because they cancel each other out.

So there is no way to calculate your bonus right now, only in the end when every BTC is in.

its on the fly.The bonus is already in u account.When you see a reduction IS FOR THE TOTAL AMOUNT (( BUY+ BONUS ))

revelacaogr

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Quote from: BoldNinja on April 13, 2016, 08:01:56 AM

Quote from: revelacaogr on April 13, 2016, 06:39:20 AM

20% bonus is already in the accounts .I think is on the fly ,Y/N?

Yes bonus is being added on the fly.

Can you explain how this is calculated? I mightbe wrong, but isn't the 85 milion waves just being equally devided between the people who participate? How can investors in the first 24 hours get a 20% bigger share? There aren't more waves available in the first 24 hours right? If 85 milion is 100% and there aren't more waves one can never get 120% or 102 milion waves. Do investors after the 24 hour mark get a less than equal share per invested btc than the people who did invest in the first 24 hours?
I'm really, really curious about your calculation.

If you invested let's say 1 BTC you would get 1.2 BTC equivalent of waves

Think about this:

The first 24 hours, everyone who bought got a 20% bonus (or 1.2 BTC equivalent of waves).
Ehm...
Impossible, because they cancel each other out.

So there is no way to calculate your bonus right now, only in the end when every BTC is in.

its on the fly.The bonus is already in u account.When you see a reduction IS FOR THE TOTAL AMOUNT (( BUY+ BONUS ))

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OK for all those that don't quite get bonus I'm going to simplify it :

You invest 1 BTC on first day with 20% bonus and let's for the purpose of this calculation say 1 BTC = 10000 WAVES

First day 20% bonus you would get 1.2BTC equivalent of WAVES = 12000 WAVES
Second day and till the end of 10% bonus you would get with 1.1BTC equivalent of WAVES = 11000 WAVES
No bonus with 1 BTC would be same so 1 BTC = 10000 WAVES

So those investing the same 1 BTC later when there is no bonus will get less waves than those that invested yesterday for 20% or 10% that starts today.

This will always be the same, but since with each investment the proportion of waves decreases and price per wave rises - you are not losing any waves it's just it's rising in value.

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Quote from: jeremy grol on April 13, 2016, 08:03:58 AM

It seems all lisk investora are afraid of waves now.

not really. both LISK and Waves go well, I get double Cheesy

. if they want to compete each other, that's matter of production.

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Devs, add info about 20% in cabinet, plz. Many questions about that.

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Quote from: Kotone on April 13, 2016, 07:49:47 AM

Quote from: larbaud on April 13, 2016, 07:45:15 AM

I've invested more coins at 11:57, my waves have been credited at 12:30 and if my math is correct I fear I didn't receive 20% but only 10%. Is it normal ? What is the official time for the bonus, the creation time of the txid or the 2-confirmations-time ?

I think you are IN man the creation of txid is the counted Grin

I don't think so, the amount was 1.3 BTC which at this time with 20% bonus is like 23-24k waves, and I received only 21k. Seems like I didn't received the 10% missing.

I have sent my BTC at 12:57, on the ico website it is written the correct timing, but on blockchain.info the received time is 12:28.

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Quote from: jeremy grol on April 13, 2016, 08:03:58 AM

It seems all lisk investora are afraid of waves now.

Lisk and Waves are completely different.

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Quote from: BoldNinja on April 13, 2016, 08:01:56 AM