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DeepOnions for the WIN!
You know what will give the WAVES team some credibility?

A PROJECT PLAN.

A plan that is shared here and on Slack for everyone to see. Even if there are delays, that is not a problem, as long as the delay is explained and a new target date committed to.

I think the community would just like to see what the overall plan is. But it needs to be more detailed, and actually updated and transparent to all in the community. That old image of the road map is not good enough anymore.

Give the community this, and there will be a LOT more support and positive community members. Everybody is concerned, because they don't have a view on target dates and mile stones.

Surely with 30k BTC in the bag, this is NOT too much to ask from the WAVES team.

NOT KNOWING is what is frustrating me, and I would assume a lot of other guys in the community.

Here you go my friend.
https://i.imgur.com/rzfIOi2.jpg

Please READ my message above. I explicitly say that that road map is not detailed enough and does not get updated.
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Devs are apparently too busy writing essays about marathon running on Medium and exploring their hidden literary talents. No time to deliver on promises.
 So who wrote the article??? I do not see a developer's name attached to it. We do really appreciate your sincere effort to help us avoid our demise.

director of "community relations". same guy who has banned hundreds from slack channel and is now calling everyone from this thread who invested "greedy idiots".

Do you understand the difference between 'developer' and "Director of Communications"?

uh, i get that community relations has become a complete train wreck with this coin and this guy should be off writing short stories. he's rolling in btc from everyone he has suckered on this thread, should not be a problem to write his marathon running  memoirs.
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What time does the Full node release?
Noone knows really. Tomorrow, tomorrow, 2017

full node was suppose to September 2016
that was the last i heard!

Full node has been released to testnet for some time already once all the wrinkles have been ironed out it will be released to the main chain and to the public.

LAMBO ORDER IS ON! Cheesy
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What time does the Full node release?
Noone knows really. Tomorrow, tomorrow, 2017

full node was suppose to September 2016
that was the last i heard!

Full node has been released to testnet for some time already once all the wrinkles have been ironed out it will be released to the main chain and to the public.
legendary
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What time does the Full node release?
Noone knows really. Tomorrow, tomorrow, 2017

full node was suppose to September 2016
that was the last i heard!

i heard somewhere they are going to hire some people. did it happen already?
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Devs are apparently too busy writing essays about marathon running on Medium and exploring their hidden literary talents. No time to deliver on promises.
  So who wrote the article??? I do not see a developer's name attached to it. We do really appreciate your sincere effort to help us avoid our demise.

director of "community relations". same guy who has banned hundreds from slack channel and is now calling everyone from this thread who invested "greedy idiots".

Do you understand the difference between 'developer' and "Director of Communications"?
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Guy Brandon, the head of Waves' communication wrote the article. So not a developer. It provides us a very nice analysis of the current state of the project. It also gives insight into the business strategy Sasha is following.
Devs are apparently too busy writing essays about marathon running on Medium and exploring their hidden literary talents. No time to deliver on promises.
  So who wrote the article??? I do not see a developer's name attached to it. We do really appreciate your sincere effort to help us avoid our demise.

director of "community relations". same guy who has banned hundreds from slack channel and is now calling everyone from this thread who invested "greedy idiots".
sr. member
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Merit: 250
Devs are apparently too busy writing essays about marathon running on Medium and exploring their hidden literary talents. No time to deliver on promises.
  So who wrote the article??? I do not see a developer's name attached to it. We do really appreciate your sincere effort to help us avoid our demise.

director of "community relations". same guy who has banned hundreds from slack channel and is now calling everyone from this thread who invested "greedy idiots".
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You know what will give the WAVES team some credibility?

A PROJECT PLAN.

A plan that is shared here and on Slack for everyone to see. Even if there are delays, that is not a problem, as long as the delay is explained and a new target date committed to.

I think the community would just like to see what the overall plan is. But it needs to be more detailed, and actually updated and transparent to all in the community. That old image of the road map is not good enough anymore.

Give the community this, and there will be a LOT more support and positive community members. Everybody is concerned, because they don't have a view on target dates and mile stones.

Surely with 30k BTC in the bag, this is NOT too much to ask from the WAVES team.

NOT KNOWING is what is frustrating me, and I would assume a lot of other guys in the community.

I believe that an achievable working plan is better than the roadmap that waves team have failed to keep up with the timeline
legendary
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Devs are apparently too busy writing essays about marathon running on Medium and exploring their hidden literary talents. No time to deliver on promises.
  So who wrote the article??? I do not see a developer's name attached to it. We do really appreciate your sincere effort to help us avoid our demise.
sr. member
Activity: 281
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Devs are apparently too busy writing essays about marathon running on Medium and exploring their hidden literary talents. No time to deliver on promises.
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Value will be measured in sats
What time does the Full node release?
Noone knows really. Tomorrow, tomorrow, 2017

full node was suppose to September 2016
that was the last i heard!
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the Russian Mafia are getting impatient with Sasha   Shocked

LOL, why do you say with this, did russian mafia invested waves?

BTW, sasha is wealthy enought to have a dozen of solders. they will fight against fiercely.  Grin
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Take a look at Waves' git page. There are many-many changes made every day. As a tester I can tell you that we are approaching full node release very quickly.

What time does the Full node release?

Never.

Great. Let's the Dev take time to test it before the full release. We know what happen to DAO
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what do you expect when you ask a question that has been asked 5 times on every page probably in this 1000 page thread.
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the Russian Mafia are getting impatient with Sasha   Shocked
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What time does the Full node release?
Noone knows really. Tomorrow, tomorrow, 2017

Maybe 2018, who knows, maybe forever not, lmao.   Grin
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MY RED TRUST LEFT BY SCUMBAGS - READ MY SIG
how long to get to bittrex?? i applied to send the coins ages ago??

Usually it takes 20-30 minutes (20 confirmations). Do you see your transaction here - http://wavesexplorer.com

No the waves are still in my waves ico account.

I have this email over 24 hours ago

Your waves address has been changed successfully.
If you did not change your address, please contact us immediately.


how come they have not gone to bittrex now?

Okay. Did you sent your waves from ICO account? Or? If so, you need to wait some time. Because all new requests are processed manually.

Yes from my ico account. Who should I contact to speed this up ?
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UK-based cryptocurrency writer and communicator since early 2014. Editorial Director for @bitscanner. Director of Communications for @Wavesplatform
yesterday6 min read
It’s not a race, it’s an ultramarathon

Crypto adoption won’t happen overnight. And it’s going to be hard work. And fun.

BLAH BLAH BLAH


What a load of self serving bullshit. You guys are pathetic, writing articles about how it is really good news that you have missed EVERY deadline in your road map so far.

What is most PATHETIC about this article is how you diss Bitcoin Talk as a bunch of losers, people who "just want 3x ICO" - - -.  when the WAVES team went balls to the wall to milk AS MUCH BTC AS POSSIBLE out of this same community during the ICO - signature campaigns, bounties, bonuses, hype - everything.

The hypocrisy is sickening.

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UK-based cryptocurrency writer and communicator since early 2014. Editorial Director for @bitscanner. Director of Communications for @Wavesplatform
yesterday6 min read
It’s not a race, it’s an ultramarathon

Crypto adoption won’t happen overnight. And it’s going to be hard work. And fun.
I wanted to share some thoughts about crypto adoption and long-distance running. Like my other posts, it’s informed by my experiences of the Waves platform, since I’m the comms director, but this one is personal opinion and doesn’t reflect any official stance, etc. Having spent nearly 3 years in the crypto world and having witnessed the best and the worst of the sector, this should also go some way to explaining what I like about Waves and why I believe it’s here for the long run.
I’ve recently taken up long-distance running again. I’ve run for 15 years, but chronic Achilles Tendinitis had reduced weekly my mileage down to almost single figures. Running keeps me sane and on the back of a personally pretty horrible year I figured if I didn’t do something about it I wouldn’t be running into my 40s, let alone my 70s. Cue several months of physio, using barefoot running and minimalist shoes to hone my technique and making the transition to forefoot instead of heel striking, and I thought I’d formalise my return to distance running by signing up for an ultramarathon at the end of October — an 8-hour challenge event.
It’s the nature of both running and crypto that they’re addictive. They occupy your head in a way that can become borderline obsessive, discounting those times the border isn’t already disappearing into the distance behind you. You don’t have to strain too hard to find the parallels between crypto adoption and ultra-running. Here’s a few I came up with on a near-disastrous 17-mile training run last week.
It’s not the winning. It’s not the taking part either. It’s the crossing the finish line.
Marathons and particularly ultramarathons aren’t like other events. Most entrants won’t even think about winning or coming in the top 10. They might have a personal target they want to beat — 24 hours for 100 miles, 50 miles inside of 10 hours, perhaps — but a lot of the time it’s simply about completing the distance. Coming second, or 50th, isn’t what keeps them awake at night. It’s the prospect of a DNF: Did Not Finish.
Whatever the bitcoin maximalists say, there’s plenty of room for many different blockchains in the world. That’s what the landscape is going to look like to five to ten years. There won’t be one chain to rule them all. There will be dozens, maybe even hundreds or more. Decentralisation is good, after all. The question isn’t whether one project like Waves is going to be The Chain Of The Future. It’s whether it will still be there in five years time. That’s what we need to focus on: crossing the finish line, being there at the table. Being part of the change that’s happening. Real-world use cases and meaningful adoption. Anything else is a DNF. And you do not want to DNF.
Plan meticulously
You can get away with a lot even for a marathon — lack of training, ignoring blisters and minor injuries, inadequate nutrition. There’s a good chance you’ll still limp over the line. Not the case once the distance rises to the 40+ mile mark. A minor mistake near the beginning will cost you dearly.
When you’re dealing with millions of dollars of investors’ money, and creating a platform that might support many tens, hundreds of millions, even billions of dollars of assets and businesses one day, you don’t leave anything to chance. You get the right people, create the roadmap, have a vision, don’t assume you can kludge something at a later date. ‘It’ll be fine’ isn’t an option. You don’t wing it. TL;DR you plan like a BOSS.
Accept you will make mistakes
There’s no question about this. If you don’t make a mistake, you’ve probably done something wrong. Or else done nothing of any consequence at all, which is much the same.
Planning is critical but mistakes are still going to happen. If you’re going out on one of the hottest days of the year, it’s smart to take extra water with you. Otherwise you’re going to end up grinding away at a snail’s pace, badly dehydrated and, ultimately, guzzling water out of a hose pipe at a marina. (That plasticky-flavoured hose water tasted so, so good. Even better a little later when I learned it was drinking water. Bonus.)
But the mistakes don’t prove you’re unfit for the task, assuming you don’t make them again. And you learn from other people’s mistakes as well as your own. Crypto is still very young. People have never really worked like this before, in dispersed teams around the world, communicating by Skype and Slack, creating bleeding-edge tech that was impossible even a decade ago. It’s bizarre when you think about it. Of course there are going to be teething troubles. You avoid the mistakes whenever you can. When you can’t — that’s just part of getting the job done.
Be prepared to change your plan
Mistakes are a given and life has a way of throwing curve balls at you anyway. An afternoon the weather service suggested would be mild turned out to be a few degrees off sub-Saharan. Trails you assumed would be well maintained were uneven and overgrown with nettles. The peanuts you ate to replace lost salt end up sucking the remaining moisture out of your already dehydrated face, leaving your tongue with the consistency of a pork scratching. There are previously unknown issues with Scorex you have to fix before you can release stable and secure full node code. That kind of thing.
Under these circumstances, sticking to your meticulous plan and schedule isn’t just dumb, it’s suicide. You adapt, not just as a matter of performance but as a matter of survival. That might mean delaying a target on the roadmap, it might mean disappointing people — including yourself. Ultimately, it doesn’t matter because the alternative is the DNF.
You go out slow
Getting to the finish line in your target time isn’t something you can guarantee by upping the pace in the first ten minutes. Going out too fast isn’t banking miles for later: it’s unsustainable and it will wreck your chances of long-term success. You start slow and you up the pace later only if it’s smart. It can be frustrating to do because everyone else is going out hard and hanging back feels like you’re being lazy. But if you get the pace right you know you’re going to see those guys again as you pass them.
One of the less attractive elements of crypto are the speculators who will throw money at an ICO with scant regard for what the project is trying to achieve, and then troll your Slack and forums when they don’t get the overnight three-fold returns they somehow feel entitled to. There have been plenty of projects that have pandered to this dynamic and even colluded with it, announcing initiatives and updates in search of the ‘pump’ that is all a proportion of the crypto crowd cares about. The worst of them might be Paycoin, which did the equivalent of sprinting the first 200 metres of a 50-miler and then crashed out, hard. But there are plenty of others who flirt with publicity in a way that isn’t outright criminal but isn’t too far off. Get the pace right and you’re going to see those guys again when you pass them. And good bye.
Get your people right
Most people don’t get long-distance running, and they don’t get crypto either. They’re both something you have to experience to understand (and then you run the risk of getting hooked). You get groups of like-minded devotees in both. They tend to stick together because it’s hard to explain the appeal to others.
About 15 years ago Jim Collins wrote a fantastic piece in the Harvard Business Review about what separates merely good companies from great ones. You can read a summary here. Jim uses the bus analogy. Sure you need to know where you’re going, he writes. But ‘leaders of companies that go from good to great start not with “where” but with “who.” They start by getting the right people on the bus, the wrong people off the bus, and the right people in the right seats. And they stick with that discipline — first the people, then the direction — no matter how dire the circumstances.’
There’s a maxim often quoted by NGOs and social enterprises, ‘People before profits’. It’s true of all businesses, ultimately, in the sense that the right people and the right relationship are a necessary condition of long-term success. More accurately, it might be stated ‘Profits because people’.
It should be fun
Lastly, this should be fun. There’s something different, iconoclastic and culturally subversive, even, about ultra-running and crypto. They’re still fringe. Maybe people don’t always get it. It doesn’t matter. It’s still worth doing for its own rewards.
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