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I don't see any scam here. The only mistake they made is they rush on exchange.
Just imagine the price of waves once they trade after a functional full feature of waves platform. Lesson learn.

I agree, not only the exhange was rushed too fast, but also the "investors" are just impatiant kids that thought they would make 5x ROI in a day..

Guess what, real projects take time to be developed and this will then increase the price. Learn to be patient, it makes your life much much easier.

Its partly their fault if indeed they released a rushed work.
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Invested over 1000 BTC? - Sascha used ICO funds.

"HE" did not "invest" ICO investors invested.

I am really puzzled by Waves and how this is panning out


He likely used ICO funds to dump his free coins into himself and his girlfriends.
This shit show if it continues will likely leave the little weezle hanging by his balls.
You don't scam taht amount without something nasty happening.
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Invested over 1000 BTC? - Sascha used ICO funds.

"HE" did not "invest" ICO investors invested.

I am really puzzled by Waves and how this is panning out



I don't see any scam here. The only mistake they made is they rush on exchange.
Just imagine the price of waves once they trade after a functional full feature of waves platform. Lesson learn.

I agree, not only the exhange was rushed too fast, but also the "investors" are just impatiant kids that thought they would make 5x ROI in a day..

Guess what, real projects take time to be developed and this will then increase the price. Learn to be patient, it makes your life much much easier.

Will you please shut the fuck up?  

Listen man, no one expected to make 5x ROI in a day.  I would have been happy to simply break-even.  What's up with these straw-man arguments?  5x ROI?  Give me a fucking break.  

At the end of the day, the ICO is an investment, not a donation.  The Waves ICO sold for roughly 36k satoshi per Wave.  We are currently at 27.7k satoshi per Wave.  That's a loss of 23%, and this isn't the lowest point!  Do you understand that people don't like losing money?  It's not about 5x ROI, people lost a quarter of their investment.  Most would be happy to not lose.  Most of you rabid supporters have very little skin in this game.  I've talked to people on Slack, PM, etc. and most are small timers with 1-2 BTC, and that's why I find it hilarious that you are so fervent to defend Waves, yet you find it apalling that people who trusted Sasha with 40-50BTC are wrong to be upset about losing 10-12 BTC?  Get lost man.  

You have no idea what you're talking about.  Pretty soon I'll have built an application that will fix this ICO issue.  It's in development now, but I've really had it.  It's not a donation.  I didn't give Sasha 40 BTC to enjoy himself with hookers and blow.  I didn't expect to turn 40 BTC into 200 BTC overnight.  

How can someone like myself, who lost over 10 BTC on Waves be expected to still have hope when the Founder continually lies time and time again about his deadlines.  Full nodes in July.  Full nodes in August... and now in September?  Give me a break.

You guys who still support this are paid shills.  I'm putting most of you on my blocklist.  It's actually not that bad having lost around 10 BTC on this project.  Now I know the full list of members who I will never take any investing tips or advice from on this forum ever again.  Good to know who the suckers are.  There's a ton of them in this thread.  

But please stop with this whole bullshit of ICO investors wanting 5x profits.  Most would love to have made 5%.  Why else would you lock up your BTC for such a long time and not getting anything from it?  

All very valid points Coinbiz, but most will call this FUD. It's like a religion to some, who just don't see Sasha is f##kin useless in so many areas. Simply too many deadlines/promises not met at all. I am astounded that this guys raised an insane amount of money, but has accomplished so little and obviously does not want to invest in his own Token. It appears he is treating this as his own Token and developing as if he is a small time IT guy trying to develop part time. No doubt he sees all those Bitcoins and is like the Scrooge.

I would have thought with so much money there would be extra programmers all working their asses off, and if that were the case this thing would have taken off.

With his rough initial rough estimate for Nodes being no where near accurate, he is either a: useless b: clueless or c: deceitful

Conbiz: I also invested a lot, actualy considerably more than you and I also get pissed off at these idiots who invested a bitcoin or two telling me to sell if i'm not happy or wait till it goes to the moon with no substance. Simply weekend teenage traders I assume. I am a big boy and know the risks of Crypto, but don't appreciate that a Dev is taking the P### with so many peoples hard earned BTC's.

Your face is all over social media Sasha, do you have no pride?

He is working his ass up. He does  and did everything possible. F&D is a think, you just dont count the hours needed to do a task, because there will be always something to re-do or do different, or you have to wait for someone finishing his work and then all the workchain is stucked. Its not an excuse to give proper ETA times.

He invested over 1000 BTC to keep the price from falling, but he will not do much more, I guess. I am worried about all the investors who went huge in and want to cash out and could not because of the small volume on bittrex. So once on Poloniex there could be another dump. Be prepared, dont lose you brain and money.

FUD is strong, soon FOMO will come. Dont get out to early.
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Speaking about polo thing. I don't see it coming anytime soon after saw Sasha's tweet. No choice but we have to accept it.
Still, I think he is too emotional. Better play a politic game for a greater good.
legendary
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I don't see any scam here. The only mistake they made is they rush on exchange.
Just imagine the price of waves once they trade after a functional full feature of waves platform. Lesson learn.

I agree, not only the exhange was rushed too fast, but also the "investors" are just impatiant kids that thought they would make 5x ROI in a day..

Guess what, real projects take time to be developed and this will then increase the price. Learn to be patient, it makes your life much much easier.

Will you please shut the fuck up?  

Listen man, no one expected to make 5x ROI in a day.  I would have been happy to simply break-even.  What's up with these straw-man arguments?  5x ROI?  Give me a fucking break.  

At the end of the day, the ICO is an investment, not a donation.  The Waves ICO sold for roughly 36k satoshi per Wave.  We are currently at 27.7k satoshi per Wave.  That's a loss of 23%, and this isn't the lowest point!  Do you understand that people don't like losing money?  It's not about 5x ROI, people lost a quarter of their investment.  Most would be happy to not lose.  Most of you rabid supporters have very little skin in this game.  I've talked to people on Slack, PM, etc. and most are small timers with 1-2 BTC, and that's why I find it hilarious that you are so fervent to defend Waves, yet you find it apalling that people who trusted Sasha with 40-50BTC are wrong to be upset about losing 10-12 BTC?  Get lost man.  

You have no idea what you're talking about.  Pretty soon I'll have built an application that will fix this ICO issue.  It's in development now, but I've really had it.  It's not a donation.  I didn't give Sasha 40 BTC to enjoy himself with hookers and blow.  I didn't expect to turn 40 BTC into 200 BTC overnight.  

How can someone like myself, who lost over 10 BTC on Waves be expected to still have hope when the Founder continually lies time and time again about his deadlines.  Full nodes in July.  Full nodes in August... and now in September?  Give me a break.

You guys who still support this are paid shills.  I'm putting most of you on my blocklist.  It's actually not that bad having lost around 10 BTC on this project.  Now I know the full list of members who I will never take any investing tips or advice from on this forum ever again.  Good to know who the suckers are.  There's a ton of them in this thread.  

But please stop with this whole bullshit of ICO investors wanting 5x profits.  Most would love to have made 5%.  Why else would you lock up your BTC for such a long time and not getting anything from it?  

All very valid points Coinbiz, but most will call this FUD. It's like a religion to some, who just don't see Sasha is f##kin useless in so many areas. Simply too many deadlines/promises not met at all. I am astounded that this guys raised an insane amount of money, but has accomplished so little and obviously does not want to invest in his own Token. It appears he is treating this as his own Token and developing as if he is a small time IT guy trying to develop part time. No doubt he sees all those Bitcoins and is like the Scrooge.

I would have thought with so much money there would be extra programmers all working their asses off, and if that were the case this thing would have taken off.

With his rough initial rough estimate for Nodes being no where near accurate, he is either a: useless b: clueless or c: deceitful

Conbiz: I also invested a lot, actualy considerably more than you and I also get pissed off at these idiots who invested a bitcoin or two telling me to sell if i'm not happy or wait till it goes to the moon with no substance. Simply weekend teenage traders I assume. I am a big boy and know the risks of Crypto, but don't appreciate that a Dev is taking the P### with so many peoples hard earned BTC's.

Your face is all over social media Sasha, do you have no pride?

He is working his ass up. He does  and did everything possible. F&D is a think, you just dont count the hours needed to do a task, because there will be always something to re-do or do different, or you have to wait for someone finishing his work and then all the workchain is stucked. Its not an excuse to give proper ETA times.

He invested over 1000 BTC to keep the price from falling, but he will not do much more, I guess. I am worried about all the investors who went huge in and want to cash out and could not because of the small volume on bittrex. So once on Poloniex there could be another dump. Be prepared, dont lose you brain and money.

FUD is strong, soon FOMO will come. Dont get out to early.
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I don't see any scam here. The only mistake they made is they rush on exchange.
Just imagine the price of waves once they trade after a functional full feature of waves platform. Lesson learn.

I agree, not only the exhange was rushed too fast, but also the "investors" are just impatiant kids that thought they would make 5x ROI in a day..

Guess what, real projects take time to be developed and this will then increase the price. Learn to be patient, it makes your life much much easier.

Will you please shut the fuck up?  

Listen man, no one expected to make 5x ROI in a day.  I would have been happy to simply break-even.  What's up with these straw-man arguments?  5x ROI?  Give me a fucking break.  

At the end of the day, the ICO is an investment, not a donation.  The Waves ICO sold for roughly 36k satoshi per Wave.  We are currently at 27.7k satoshi per Wave.  That's a loss of 23%, and this isn't the lowest point!  Do you understand that people don't like losing money?  It's not about 5x ROI, people lost a quarter of their investment.  Most would be happy to not lose.  Most of you rabid supporters have very little skin in this game.  I've talked to people on Slack, PM, etc. and most are small timers with 1-2 BTC, and that's why I find it hilarious that you are so fervent to defend Waves, yet you find it apalling that people who trusted Sasha with 40-50BTC are wrong to be upset about losing 10-12 BTC?  Get lost man.  

You have no idea what you're talking about.  Pretty soon I'll have built an application that will fix this ICO issue.  It's in development now, but I've really had it.  It's not a donation.  I didn't give Sasha 40 BTC to enjoy himself with hookers and blow.  I didn't expect to turn 40 BTC into 200 BTC overnight.  

How can someone like myself, who lost over 10 BTC on Waves be expected to still have hope when the Founder continually lies time and time again about his deadlines.  Full nodes in July.  Full nodes in August... and now in September?  Give me a break.

You guys who still support this are paid shills.  I'm putting most of you on my blocklist.  It's actually not that bad having lost around 10 BTC on this project.  Now I know the full list of members who I will never take any investing tips or advice from on this forum ever again.  Good to know who the suckers are.  There's a ton of them in this thread.  

But please stop with this whole bullshit of ICO investors wanting 5x profits.  Most would love to have made 5%.  Why else would you lock up your BTC for such a long time and not getting anything from it?  

All very valid points Coinbiz, but most will call this FUD. It's like a religion to some, who just don't see Sasha is f##kin useless in so many areas. Simply too many deadlines/promises not met at all. I am astounded that this guys raised an insane amount of money, but has accomplished so little and obviously does not want to invest in his own Token. It appears he is treating this as his own Token and developing as if he is a small time IT guy trying to develop part time. No doubt he sees all those Bitcoins and is like the Scrooge.

I would have thought with so much money there would be extra programmers all working their asses off, and if that were the case this thing would have taken off.

With his rough initial rough estimate for Nodes being no where near accurate, he is either a: useless b: clueless or c: deceitful

Conbiz: I also invested a lot, actualy considerably more than you and I also get pissed off at these idiots who invested a bitcoin or two telling me to sell if i'm not happy or wait till it goes to the moon with no substance. Simply weekend teenage traders I assume. I am a big boy and know the risks of Crypto, but don't appreciate that a Dev is taking the P### with so many peoples hard earned BTC's.

Your face is all over social media Sasha, do you have no pride?
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I agree with coinbiz that the most people are nervous because it is under ICO. It's basically loss for 2 months now. If it was at least on ICO level I think majority of people who are not liking it would be quiet and just wait.
legendary
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I don't see any scam here. The only mistake they made is they rush on exchange.
Just imagine the price of waves once they trade after a functional full feature of waves platform. Lesson learn.

I agree, not only the exhange was rushed too fast, but also the "investors" are just impatiant kids that thought they would make 5x ROI in a day..

Guess what, real projects take time to be developed and this will then increase the price. Learn to be patient, it makes your life much much easier.

There's just too much FUD being spread months ago until it goes way down. and the greedy keeps pulling the price down just so they can buy more waves. Its still worth the wait i can tell.
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I don't see any scam here. The only mistake they made is they rush on exchange.
Just imagine the price of waves once they trade after a functional full feature of waves platform. Lesson learn.

I agree, not only the exhange was rushed too fast, but also the "investors" are just impatiant kids that thought they would make 5x ROI in a day..

Guess what, real projects take time to be developed and this will then increase the price. Learn to be patient, it makes your life much much easier.
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If it is not a Scam they should maybe replace the DEV, doesnt hold promises, delay all the time and spreads FUD against ETC on twitter instead of working on the project...

Yup we should replace the ceo right?

ICO investors don't have the power to vote against any of these  crypto CEOs. My major concern  is about the delay with the whitepaper, unless the don't understand what the project stands for and the real world problem the are trying to solve

I know they don't have any power its a take the piss question. Yeah you're right they don't have a clue about the project and won't be releasing anything so your best of just selling now before we go down to a few hundred sat  Cheesy
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pls ppl sasha is the best project manager !!! he stated all the big exchanges will add waves and boom coinbase adds waves, he stated that we will have soon a whitepaper ...40 days ago...boom the best whitepaper ....he stated nodes source code will be public in few days boom...!!!!! keep up the good work sasha!!!

lol,this one put me in a good mood!
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Get your act together Sasha. Your constant delays and excuses (via Twiggy) come across as someone who isn't focused on development. You spend so much effort and time throwing rocks from your glasshouse, when you are in no position to do so at the moment.

To the Waves team: Stop the excuses and delays and get your act together. All you've provided is a few wavelet magazines with very little substance and false promises.

"Nodes will be released soon... next week.... by next weekend...more testing....almost there...." Pull your finger out of your backsides and provide at least something for us!!



exactly!
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Get your act together Sasha. Your constant delays and excuses (via Twiggy) come across as someone who isn't focused on development. You spend so much effort and time throwing rocks from your glasshouse, when you are in no position to do so at the moment.

To the Waves team: Stop the excuses and delays and get your act together. All you've provided is a few wavelet magazines with very little substance and false promises.

"Nodes will be released soon... next week.... by next weekend...more testing....almost there...." Pull your finger out of your backsides and provide at least something for us!!



Sasha is a greedy individual. He does not want to spend any BTC by hiring new devs to speed up the work.

Rise (Clone of Lisk) have 3-4 devs on a ICO of 1800 BTC. Waves raised 16x more funds. He should have a dev team of a dozen coders to deliver the waves platform in time.

And should have profession PR team instead of poor twiggy alone taking the heat.

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Get your act together Sasha. Your constant delays and excuses (via Twiggy) come across as someone who isn't focused on development. You spend so much effort and time throwing rocks from your glasshouse, when you are in no position to do so at the moment.

To the Waves team: Stop the excuses and delays and get your act together. All you've provided is a few wavelet magazines with very little substance and false promises.

"Nodes will be released soon... next week.... by next weekend...more testing....almost there...." Pull your finger out of your backsides and provide at least something for us!!

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This can be good in a long long long term. Dev team is pro in delay. Just take off dates in roadmap.
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If this turd drops lower than $10m marketcap , fak it I'm buying.  Cool
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In 5 years tops Waves will be trading above today's price, so chill out and hold.  Cool

You think someone who put their btc into waves ico is happy to wait 5 years to break even while others who bought sashas dump do better?

Where did you get this date? Very strange assumption, dudes. Full node is already very close, assets, gateways Smiley

Twiggy you really do not get tired of pushing. You remind me of some good dudes from the URO scam, they truly believed 1 URO will equal 1 metric tonnes of cow shit. Eventually that wish came true, the only catch was they needed to chase the cows in the field of dreams to collect that. Sasha said 8 weeks ago "the nodes will be released in two weeks".

Coming from you Stuhlman? You're one of the biggest shill scammers I know on these forums. Legendary... Remember AeroME?

"I know Majika, he's my friend...Hes not a scammer". How much money did he pay you to shill for him?

coin holders decide to give Majika ICO after swap. Majika says he has a release coming. You vouch for him... Nobody ever sees him again.  You're pond scum, pal... Go sit on your pile of scam btc.

I am a shill for Aerome?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8021526

I made one or two posts on the aerome thread, you made over 1000, read your own posts, it will help jug your memory.

I have nothing against you, I know you have done some people good. What Majika did in the end is his own doing not mine, if you want to blame me one time for somebody else's action based on one post, then I might as well do the same for the 1000 times you shilled for Aerome. I was not involved in that project, was only a casual investor. And you of all people certainly know that. So if you are invested in this cow shit, and you want to protect your investment, find another answer than calling me names.

That quote is from like the lone time Majika did come through...I didn't make money off aeroME, I'm in red on it (some of which is because of you), and I wasn't friends with Majika. I had a lot of belief in it, because I was pretty new to crpto. I liked the project, and the guy seemed ok. I don't know the guy...you do. You also came in at the worst time (right before he left) and vouched for him. I actually bought some, because you claimed he wasn't a scammer...so whatever you say buddy.

I'd be willing to bet money that you want waves, and you're trying to get people to sell down to your buys.
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